Phone vs dedicated camera

[keenklee]

IMHO.

 

[rrr2015]

definitely going Mobile over camera. in fact bought expensive mobile just for photography but cheap mobile for regular use

few years low light photography on mobile still pretty weak compared to camera. but it seems to have catchup.

 

[yksrel]

"the best camera is the camera you have with you"

 

[furryballs]

definitely going Mobile over camera. in fact bought expensive mobile just for photography but cheap mobile for regular use

few years low light photography on mobile still pretty weak compared to camera. but it seems to have catchup.

Which mobile phone did you buy?

 

[rrr2015]

Which mobile phone did you buy?

currently still using huawei p20 pro

 

[rrr2015]

HWZ photography forum looks really dead now? Clubsnap also gone case liao?

 

[Tyer]

I had a thought about it too. For the people who had not started on the dedicated camera, probably it is better not to get started already, given the quality of good phone cameras. The other trouble of using dedicated camera is the need to transfer to PC and then do editing when needed.

 

[rrr2015]

mobile photography quality good enough for IG & socials but not enough for large prints. but at consumer level, no one bother about large prints so non issue.

but for those who wish to pickup the fundamentals & perhaps consider going pro later, still essential to begin with at least digital camera.

 

[alamakazim]

mobile photography quality good enough for IG & socials but not enough for large prints. but at consumer level, no one bother about large prints so non issue.

but for those who wish to pickup the fundamentals & perhaps consider going pro later, still essential to begin with at least digital camera.

A.I. processing can do large print

mobile camera phone in manual mode will do the trick too

As usual, many white elephant around...

 

[rrr2015]

A.I. processing can do large print

no matter how there are limitations due to sensor size & lens. AI depends on pattern match, machine learning, so might be challenging for complex images

Mobile photos have already been AI post processed in mobile. some effects like bokeh are fakes & may produce weird results sometimes. but most cases that can deal sufficiently.

anyway still impressed, can't really tell difference if view from distance

mobile camera phone in manual mode will do the trick too

As usual, many white elephant around...

imo if want to learn the craft of photography still better to start with cameras.

but most who use mobile photography more for convenience & let AI do all the work.

 

[zoossh]

Well I never pixel creep all these years and though it is relevant in the past, now it seem that megapixel for handphone is not so important as I never ever deep crop.

this video below gives quite some ok understanding on it and it recommended 20-24 megapixel.

There’s some gaps between 12mp and 48 mp for some phones. What do folks here feel about their 12mp old handphone sensors? Good enough? Asking cos perhaps due time to upgrade my phone

 

[rrr2015]

Well I never pixel creep all these years and though it is relevant in the past, now it seem that megapixel for handphone is not so important as I never ever deep crop.

this video below gives quite some ok understanding on it and it recommended 20-24 megapixel.

There’s some gaps between 12mp and 48 mp for some phones. What do folks here feel about their 12mp old handphone sensors? Good enough? Asking cos perhaps due time to upgrade my phone

not expert. i think megapixels are used differently in mobile. mobile cam uses pixel binning which creates "superpixel" from adjacent pixels (e.g 4 to 1). while 48Mp are used to create 12Mp image, this technique improves low light performance & quality on mobile cam

 

[zoossh]

not expert. i think megapixels are used differently in mobile. mobile cam uses pixel binning which creates "superpixel" from adjacent pixels (e.g 4 to 1). while 48Mp are used to create 12Mp image, this technique improves low light performance & quality on mobile cam

Sounds chim. Do u think 48mp is worth it or overkill? File size gonna be huge

 

[rrr2015]

Sounds chim. Do u think 48mp is worth it or overkill? File size gonna be huge

no on mobile, 4p to 1p, pixel binning will create larger pixel & hence better light sensitivity. so it will create 12mp from 48mp.

 

[RyanJ]

Sounds chim. Do u think 48mp is worth it or overkill? File size gonna be huge

Some might call it marketing BS.

They could have tried to make a 12MP sensor better instead of stepping up on pixels and bin 4 pixels into 1 . But the way sensors are heading moving forward, it seems the "more" pixels the "more" desirable marketing wise.

I have no comparison as to whether a binned 12mp is better or a normal way of 12mp is better.

One can also argue that they want a 48mp raw file to work on, but if it demands that level of details might as well use a DSLR/mirrorless.

 

[zoossh]

Some might call it marketing BS.

They could have tried to make a 12MP sensor better instead of stepping up on pixels and bin 4 pixels into 1 . But the way sensors are heading moving forward, it seems the "more" pixels the "more" desirable marketing wise.

I have no comparison as to whether a binned 12mp is better or a normal way of 12mp is better.

One can also argue that they want a 48mp raw file to work on, but if it demands that level of details might as well use a DSLR/mirrorless.

At my current stage and family/work/life balance, I will have little time for any post processing of raw file

that means leaving myself to whatever limitations that a phone camera gives me and accepting the phone software processing gives - a little sad but there are life priorities which I can make do with what I have currently

i do know that iphone may not have the best processing (the portrait mode with fake blurring of background looks horrible). I may watch out for upgrading to iphone 14 whereas 15 may need to wait till sep

I’m only using a little more than half of 256 storage. I can’t imagine how much space the 48mp is going to affect my choice of storage size since I often do not delete the photos

it seems like I might keep to a smaller file size while waiting to see how iphone 15 is. And maybe try out add on anamorphic lens to a smartphone

 

[Unknownx]

I guess I'm still one of the rare ones who still shoot with my mirrorless camera over phone daily. Transfer raw to phone via WiFi/USB cable and processed raw file using Adobe Lightroom mobile only.

 

[RyanJ]

I guess I'm still one of the rare ones who still shoot with my mirrorless camera over phone daily. Transfer raw to phone via WiFi/USB cable and processed raw file using Adobe Lightroom mobile only.

Adobe Lightroom for mobile is foc ?

I am using an old Sony mirrorless, the only way I can get raw into Android phone is via a USB C card reader..

 

[Unknownx]

Adobe Lightroom for mobile is foc ?

I am using an old Sony mirrorless, the only way I can get raw into Android phone is via a USB C card reader..

Yes, it's foc to download and use with some limitations. Without subscription you only can edit JPG and 2 raw files (DNG & RW2 for Lumix).

For other brands can try using raw2dng to convert. But it might not work for some models.

 

[RyanJ]

Yes, it's foc to download and use with some limitations. Without subscription you only can edit JPG and 2 raw files (DNG & RW2 for Lumix).

For other brands can try using raw2dng to convert. But it might not work for some models.

There are times like traveling where I could definitely do with abit of highlight retrieval from the raw on phone. Is raw2dng a mobile app ?