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Piano lessons!

Hi all,

Anyone interested in learning piano can PM me.
Able to teach all grades.
Experienced in teaching for nearly 6 years!

Fees are negotiable!
 
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Advise please

Hello! I am currently Grade 3 to 4, practising on a piano (39 inch with 85keys) which was bought 2nd hand. It is not sufficient to train my techniques now. With $3000, I hope to buy a better piano which can last me till Grade 8.

Hailun HL 121 @$2.8k (acoustic piano) with 10 years warranty, do you think it can last me to Grade 8? I am open to 2nd hand pianos. Cristofori has academic models that are within my budget. Or Pearl River? Any recommendations?
 

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Hi,

If you don't mind 2nd hand pianos, try looking for 2nd hand yamaha U1 (not U1J or others).. it should last you at least grade 8. it should be well within your budget.

i tend to feel IMHO that pearl river and shanghai brands of piano are not warm enough, tend to be a little washed out. another $0.02 -- do not get pianos like william tell.



Hello! I am currently Grade 3 to 4, practising on a piano (39 inch with 85keys) which was bought 2nd hand. It is not sufficient to train my techniques now. With $3000, I hope to buy a better piano which can last me till Grade 8.

Hailun HL 121 @$2.8k (acoustic piano) with 10 years warranty, do you think it can last me to Grade 8? I am open to 2nd hand pianos. Cristofori has academic models that are within my budget. Or Pearl River? Any recommendations?
 

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Hi victorkk, Any piano shops which you recommend that sells good 2nd hand Yamaha U1 within that budget? Is it better to get those that are in "gray market"? Is 25 yo too old?

What do you mean by "not warm enough"?
 

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i cant really recommend piano shops for 2nd hand ones as it really depends. depending on the age of the piano, can say i have seen anything more than 1.5k SGD.

er... what do you mean by "gray market"? if a piano is well maintained, especially well designed pianos, i think shouldn't be an issue. any experienced teacher got comments to chip in? :)

if you compare the sound of the pianos in jazz / latin music to the sound of piano used in classical. think you would get what i mean...

Hi victorkk, Any piano shops which you recommend that sells good 2nd hand Yamaha U1 within that budget? Is it better to get those that are in "gray market"? Is 25 yo too old?

What do you mean by "not warm enough"?


hmmm.. according to what i know and researched, U1E might be made for north america market in the late 80s. it should be about 7 numbers? get the serial and double check with Yamaha to confirm.

<http://www.secondhandpiano.com/list5.htm>
<http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/piano/about/s_num/s_num.html>

has it been refurnished yet? is the wood conditioned for Singapore weather? check the wood for any damage by insects, or what so ever. check the strings for rusty or signs of wear out. check the felts, the damper, the heater, etc.

check carefully, since no one want to spend additional $$ to fix any issue that crops up later

note: i am not a piano dealer.... i have only learned and played for the last 23 years.. teach since 1997. :p


How much does a 2nd hand yamaha U1E sell for? about 20 years old, but good condition.
 
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hey

hey another friend and i are looking for a piano tutor to teach us from scratch..
we are 19 and have neither any past experience with the piano nor a piano itself..
may i know where can we find a tutor who is willing to provide a place for lessons?
can i know the tentative rates as well?
thanks..
 

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just checked a few days ago in yamaha plaza sing, they do not carry U1E as it is an old model, and not in production anymore. but the equivalent available now is U1. selling at $9850. wah......
 

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haha... the japan model is around this price. if you buy the indonesia version, it should be around 7k plus. try to get only the U1J (indonesia) or U1 (japan).

i'm using a U3. difference is the suspended soundboard.
 

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my exprience with yamaha has been very good. the ps branch is very nicely design. think all you need is a good teacher. doesnt matter who your classmates are. so what if they are younger. they can be much better than us.

better late than never as the wiseones say..:D
 

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just checked a few days ago in yamaha plaza sing, they do not carry U1E as it is an old model, and not in production anymore. but the equivalent available now is U1. selling at $9850. wah......

Hello! I am currently Grade 3 to 4, practising on a piano (39 inch with 85keys) which was bought 2nd hand. It is not sufficient to train my techniques now. With $3000, I hope to buy a better piano which can last me till Grade 8.

Hailun HL 121 @$2.8k (acoustic piano) with 10 years warranty, do you think it can last me to Grade 8? I am open to 2nd hand pianos. Cristofori has academic models that are within my budget. Or Pearl River? Any recommendations?

don need to buy new, unless u can afford a good one.
Well taken care U series can last for long time.
of course if you wanna buy second go anywhere but yamaha showroom, they only sell new ones.
No particular 2nd hand piano showroom to suggest, cos only the piano matters.
(though going to a good showroom may help =) pm me for more details haha
They usu provide buy-back service, or trade up policy )

And just my 2 cents, refrain from buying
1. NON japan-made yamahas ( definitely not china or korean made ones, no offense just tt they tend to be good for 1st few yrs only), also ask for proof
2. Yamaha nippon gakki (very old yamaha, usu > 25 yrs old),
3. 2 pedal piano, or
4. reconditioned ones.

My advice also dun limit urself to Yamaha, try Kawai as well.
Some ppl may find Kawai actually sounds nicer than Yamaha, vice versa.

When u go to view piano, bring along a friend tt plays piano well to help u choose.
Ask him/her to play all sorts of songs (cover diff range, touch response, sound quality, etc and ask him/ her for an opinion of the piano)
After that, also take note:
1. any rust on strings and water stain or any other stain
2. any loose keys & make sure they are all lie flat on 1 straight line
(if sides of keys are dirty, it indicates tt the piano have been played a lot.
but also beware if it's super clean. some dealer might have cleaned it up.
check them for low mid and high range
3. good soundboard , make sure it is not cracked or damaged
4. play loud n soft (diff range of dynamics) see how's the sound like
(also to check for any loose tuning pegs/pin & whether it can be tuned to concert pitch standard)
5. check whether it's over-strung piano
it means the strings run diagonally in two sections across the piano. The bass string section crosses over the treble strings, which are in turn running diagonally behind the bass strings. (most modern piano have this feature)
6. any wooden part that expanded (probably becos of water)
7. any strings tt may have been replaced (shows little maintenance)
8. damper pedal and una corda pedal working properly
(middle pedal can be adjusted easily)
9. check for the year it was made(online also can)
10. lastly, physical condition of piano itself

usu black color sells well, in other words other than black may be cheaper to buy.

also dun limit urself to visit just 1 showroom.
diff showroom may provide diff service, got some provide warranty, new bench tool, or height-adjustable one, and free 2-3 tuning, free delivery , free heater, or allow u to rent before buying.

bear in mind cost of servicing a piano (not tuning) is extremely high, so get urself a really well-maintained one.

and try to bargain as well..

all the best for your music endeavor ;)
 
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thanks for the reply but........
hehe, actually i was just checking the 2nd hand pricing for U1E, coz i have one at home.....
just wanna know how much it could sell for

but thanks for the nice information
 

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thanks for the reply but........
hehe, actually i was just checking the 2nd hand pricing for U1E, coz i have one at home.....
just wanna know how much it could sell for

but thanks for the nice information

my pleasure..
oo i see, why would you wanna sell it?
it's a pretty good upright
like i said it actually depends on a lot of things.
first of all, did u buy it new?
abt 2 yrs ago an 18-25-year-old U1 would cost ard 2300-3800
sorry for such outdated pricing, cos recently i nvr intend to buy piano.

btw if it's under 10 yrs (presumably still under warranty) u can sell it for more, i mean a lot more.
but i dun think i'm the right person to quote u any pricing..
sorry, unable to help much
 

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was just thinking, thinking of getting a grand piano.
mine was bought about 18-20 years ago, and it cost $7500 that time.
about 20 years liao, so i guess it can't get a high price.
but i heard from a friend, for the yamaha brand, the next higher level after the U1E would be a grand piano liao, so its something like one of the best for upright pianos.

hmm.....maybe it's not worth to sell and get a grand piano, coz i would have to spend a lot more to get something worth the difference.
 

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was just thinking, thinking of getting a grand piano.
mine was bought about 18-20 years ago, and it cost $7500 that time.
about 20 years liao, so i guess it can't get a high price.
but i heard from a friend, for the yamaha brand, the next higher level after the U1E would be a grand piano liao, so its something like one of the best for upright pianos.

hmm.....maybe it's not worth to sell and get a grand piano, coz i would have to spend a lot more to get something worth the difference.

i see..
Yup u're right, U series are one of the best upright pianos one can own. here's some info
After U series, there is UX /YUX/YUS series, then there is grand piano.
but specifically after U1 there's U2 (not so popular), then U3.

My advice is that only when u need it, then it's worth buying grand.
for instance to aid u pursuing degree in music, or for teaching purposes, or if u often conduct performances.
Cos not only price is exorbitant, maintenance is more ex and more complicated.
(more sensitive to humidity and temperature)

my 2 cents, if u want to buy grand dun buy baby grand, e.g Yamaha GC or GB series (GC1abt 15k)or the like, get at least a C (C1 abt 23K) series. And S series (>50K)would be the top range. (many ppl instead of having big S series, they choose smaller steinway and sons.. branded mah..) haha.. enuf for that

prices are estimate, correct me if i'm wrong
 
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i see..
Yup u're right, U series are one of the best upright pianos one can own. here's some info
After U series, there is UX /YUX/YUS series, then there is grand piano.
but specifically after U1 there's U2 (not so popular), then U3.

I'm sorry, but i have to correct you, in Singapore, the Yamaha lineup for U Series consists of U1, U3, YUS5.

The other models you listed are not for local market. :o

If you're looking for an upright grand, you'll have to pick the YUS5, as only the YUS5 is equipped with a sostenuto pedal, different from the other models.

Sostenuto is mainly found only in grand pianos. However, if you have space constraint, the YUS5 would be the upright alternative =:p
 

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I'm sorry, but i have to correct you, in Singapore, the Yamaha lineup for U Series consists of U1, U3, YUS5.

The other models you listed are not for local market. :o

If you're looking for an upright grand, you'll have to pick the YUS5, as only the YUS5 is equipped with a sostenuto pedal, different from the other models.

Sostenuto is mainly found only in grand pianos. However, if you have space constraint, the YUS5 would be the upright alternative =:p

thanks for the info. Actually I was just referring to the second hand market, so practically you can get those models if the importers bring them in.

I want to clarify something here, not all upright grand (especially older type) has sustenuto pedal. Also not all grand piano has sustenuto pedal (esp cheaper ones / baby grand)
 

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hello, guys.

i'm interested in picking up playin a keyboard.
any places to recommend?

i only know abt yamaha, lol.
 
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