Population collapse?

fantasyrulz

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But this won't happen when the govts starts to import more and more in a bid to boost their own population and hence economic growth.....

this wont work
ALL DEVELOPED nations are facing the same problem

sooner or later they will all leave
 

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what u are looking at is total

but u should look at the tfr for developed nations
u cant take those that are underdevelop to suddenly come over to serve us as their lord

capitalism is failing fast and soon we are running out of rats to run the machinary

erm. migration is regardless of developed or third world countries
look at usa, also got 3rd world pple move there to wanna live and work although legal or not is another thing

same with UK also and some EU countries

if u wanna cherry pick to suit ur narrative then u happy can liao

peace out
 

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Meanwhile countries in africa & Indian continents still booming with high birthrates and so proud of it but their economy cant support this increase also. They should control population to 2.1..
 

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erm. migration is regardless of developed or third world countries
look at usa, also got 3rd world pple move there to wanna live and work although legal or not is another thing

same with UK also and some EU countries

if u wanna, cherry pick to suit ur narrative then u happy can liao

i sure hope im wrong and ur right and i got all this wrong bah ur right then

tired liao nitez
 

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call me a MCP but one of the biggest cause is also due to girls been more educated and due to natural human instinct where girls only date higher or same means that most girls will remain childless

they might think its ok but when they are old nobody will care for them, the next generation will be heavily burdened by all the aging boomers

so the self centric society will rot itself away.
most old will end up lonely and some go insane some end their life

and it gets much much worst

and in the history of humanity TFR has never ever been successfully saved it only get worst

those who think india etc can save us? no they are infact sliding down their tfr too

girls cannot be given too much education and been too independent it will doom humanity
can i ask why in the past 5000 years in ancient history there was no such problem as low TFR and rapidly aging population? how come in the past 5000 years the population were energetic, young, healthy and very few old people?
 

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sg has the best solution. dwelling TFR, increasing population

i was reading a korean comment on another youtube vid about their population crisis, the translated words say something like "the older generations are taking away all the wealth, leaving the younger generations poor and overworked. when I asked the elders what should we do, they said to do the same to newer generations. that's why we are all leaving korea"
 

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can i ask why in the past 5000 years in ancient history there was no such problem as low TFR and rapidly aging population? how come in the past 5000 years the population were energetic, young, healthy and very few old people?

donno
guess is only recently 1980s onwards when girls are empowered they
have choices to study to work etc

the more successful they are the higher the bar is set

the tall girl problem
 

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Mai huan lo about korea

When one day they no more young people, still have north korea around. Jitao reunify, instant supply of young koreans
 

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can i ask why in the past 5000 years in ancient history there was no such problem as low TFR and rapidly aging population? how come in the past 5000 years the population were energetic, young, healthy and very few old people?
1.Girls were suppressed and made to serve the guys.
2. Lower life spans due to poor medical technology /conditions.
3. Constant warfare.
 

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hideWorld historical TFR (1950–2020)
YearsGlobal AverageMore developed regionsLess developed regions
1950–19554.862.845.94
1955–19605.012.756.15
1960–19654.702.715.64
1965–19705.082.516.23
1970–19754.832.325.87
1975–19804.082.014.88
1980–19853.751.894.40
1985–19903.521.824.03
1990–19953.311.783.71
1995–20002.881.583.18
2000–20052.731.572.98
2005–20102.621.612.81
2010–20152.591.692.74
2015–20202.521.672.66
2020–20252.351.512.47

The chart shows that the decline in the TFR since the 1960s has occurred in every region of the world. The global TFR is projected to continue declining for the remainder of the century, and reach a below-replacement level of 1.8 by 2100.[26][32]

all develop nations are gone, less develop are also getting worst

population shrinking in the long term
 

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donno
guess is only recently 1980s onwards when girls are empowered they
have choices to study to work etc

the more successful they are the higher the bar is set

the tall girl problem
I agree wholly with you but am curious would like to know before 1960s/1970s/1980s females are not given the opportunity for an education and to work?
1.Girls were suppressed and made to serve the guys.
2. Lower life spans due to poor medical technology /conditions.
3. Constant warfare.
Totally agree with you! Made me think for 5000 years females were suppressed and made to serve the males? Only in the recent history of 50 years were females liberated?

I agree with point 2 and 3, recently I dream of my past life in the 1500s in Japan (during the Sengoku period lots of wars and instability), the average life expectancy was roughly 30 to 40 years.
  • High infant mortality (lots of babies died young) dragged the average way down.
  • If you survived childhood (say, past age 10), you had a decent chance of living into your 50s or even 60s — especially if you weren’t a soldier or killed by disease, famine, or war.
For example:
  • Samurai and nobles sometimes lived longer because they had better food and safer lives (unless they died in battle).
  • Peasants had rougher lives — hard labor, poor nutrition, and lots of disease.
  • At birth: life expectancy ~30 years.
  • If survived to adulthood (18+): living to 50–60 years old was achievable.
 

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I agree wholly with you but am curious would like to know before 1960s/1970s/1980s females are not given the opportunity for an education and to work?

Totally agree with you! Made me think for 5000 years females were suppressed and made to serve the males? Only in the recent history of 50 years were females liberated?

I agree with point 2 and 3, recently I dream of my past life in the 1500s in Japan (during the Sengoku period lots of wars and instability), the average life expectancy was roughly 30 to 40 years.
  • High infant mortality (lots of babies died young) dragged the average way down.
  • If you survived childhood (say, past age 10), you had a decent chance of living into your 50s or even 60s — especially if you weren’t a soldier or killed by disease, famine, or war.
For example:
  • Samurai and nobles sometimes lived longer because they had better food and safer lives (unless they died in battle).
  • Peasants had rougher lives — hard labor, poor nutrition, and lots of disease.
  • At birth: life expectancy ~30 years.
  • If survived to adulthood (18+): living to 50–60 years old was achievable.
Bro, for point 1,singapore women charter was enacted in 1961 and just look at the TFR since then.There's even a chart showing the decline of Singapore TFR since 1960.

If I remember correctly, women life in sg is not exactly as rosy as now before 1960.....

Edit: so it's not a stretch to say that the enmancipation of women in sg is responsible for the drop in TFR of sg.

https://www.google.com/search?q=singapore+tfr+by+year&sca_esv=3d29f91817f8e566&sxsrf=AHTn8zpH-pboYZfiGHPFxnihc0cWCtwNAQ:1743999559329&source=hp&ei=R1LzZ-6EEZmR4-EP94eZkQw&oq=Singapore+tfr&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCINU2luZ2Fwb3JlIHRmcioCCAMyChAjGIAEGCcYigUyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAESJU2UMUGWOofcAF4AJABAJgBnQGgAecIqgEEMTEuMrgBAcgBAPgBAZgCDqACwQmoAg_CAgcQIxgnGOoCwgIKECMY8AUYJxjqAsICDRAuGMcBGCcY6gIYrwHCAgQQIxgnwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAhMQLhiABBixAxjRAxhDGMcBGIoFwgINEC4YgAQYsQMYQxiKBcICFhAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGEMYgwEYxwEYigXCAggQABiABBixA8ICChAAGIAEGEMYigXCAg0QABiABBixAxhDGIoFwgIQEC4YgAQYQxjHARiKBRivAcICERAuGIAEGJECGMcBGIoFGK8BwgIREC4YgAQYkQIY0QMYxwEYigXCAg0QABiABBixAxgUGIcCmAMH8QXzTYTcAcAA8JIHBDEyLjKgB46FAbIHBDExLjK4B7oJ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp
 
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