Proposal Ring - Part 2

[Lucask83]

Lets leave all that drama aside. I would like to share my experience with JannPaul with everyone here.

I consider myself a penny pincher, I really want good value for money. When I first started researching on diamonds for my proposal 4 months ago, I came across this thread and saw the reviews on JannPaul. I was willing to give it a shot because I didnt want to pay for a brand, as much as I was willing to pay for a good diamond. Those Big diamond names were not of any interest to me, and I am glad neither they are to my girlfriend. She simply jumps at the sight of some sparkling diamonds in front of her. She would have been fine with the chain stores I think but I was not, I wanted the best bang for the buck.

The quality of diamonds I don't need to say where JP is concerned. They really have very very good diamonds. I went to MANY stores and some even normal diamonds were overpriced. All the marketing gimmicks about giving huge discounts etc, are all just plain bull in my opinion. But let's put quality aside, there might be others who have as good quality that I may not be aware of. But obviously JP has damn good diamonds.

But where JP really stands out is their service delivery. It is impeccable. For someone like me who is really interested to know about diamonds before buying, JP explained it all. Every detail. I used the knowledge I gained and went to other stores and the sales peeps didnt even know as much as me, and all I didnt was a few weeks of research + JPs education.
It was quite embarrassing to be honest. Most of the sales guys knew nuts abt what they were selling when you really go into the technicalities.

I was served by Sam and Jerome. I was almost like harassing them over emails/msges for months. I went down to JP a couple of times as well. But they were so professional throughout, it really left a damn good impression. And not like I was buying a 1 carat diamond etc. Yet their service level throughout the months till I got the ring was really superb. I am not exaggerating. I really feel this way. There is a tendency to 'serve less' as correspondence between the service staff and the customer increases because the former might feel that the sales is going nowhere. It's understandable, human nature. But I never experienced that at JP. Their service is IMPECCABLE.

I really recommend those interested in diamonds to go down and have a look and make your own decision. Get Sam and Jerome or in fact any others to help you out.

I spent more than I would have liked to. But I really know what I got.

Cheers

PS apologies for all the grammatical errors etc. I just collected my ring an hour ago and decided to write this review on my way home before I forget

I got mine from Sam! Agree he is good and he don't hardsell nor does he push me to buy the biggest one though I looking to upgrade mine

 

[linusz]

Been a while to this forum.

Happy with my proposal ring from vivo then.
Not too sure about their service when I went back to source for another solitaire.

Been to JP for viewing before too. Was suitably impressed.

Integrity in business is such an important ingredient. Never to one who is lacking.

 

[xtwis7]

Carat over color

So let's say 0.5 G vs 0.4 D-F, I think it'll be more sensible to take the 0.5? I just not sure how low can one go for the color though most would recommend F is the lowest.

 

[tweetyz]

Prior to this saga my fiancé and I were considering either JannPaul or Vivo Diamonds. We did our research and whilst we were impressed with the professionalism that renontates from JP Facebook page, same cannot be said for VD. In our opinion it was a turn off to see various posts of clients' token of appreciation ie. pictures of cakes specially from Ipoh etc being flaunted online. To us, it was a desperate attempt to proof and to remind its readers about how "good" their customer service is.

Anws we dropped by both JP & VD to have a more holistic shopping experience. True enough, JP wasn't disappointing at all. They are good in what they do best and wasn't the least pushy or annoyingly hopeful to seal the deal there and then. It felt more like a crash course on diamonds and we truly understood what we were buying without having to feel a single pinch of obligation. The experience on the other hand of VD was horrendous. upon hearing that we were looking around at other jewellers as well, the aunty at VD started lecturing us about not appreciating their diamonds. and this was just the first 5mins that we were in the shop. Aunty, we neither desire your permission nor your approval on where and how to shop for our diamond. It is our perogative and it certainly ain't any business of yours.

Needless to say who we ended up purchasing the diamond from. JP has been very accommodating to our requirements and specifications, and we are glad to be dealing with a seller that we can trust and have no qualms about in terms of its integrity.

 

[Carnesir]

I settled my diamond in 2 visits.

One visit to be educated and one to choose. Jerome served me.

3rd visit was to pay and collect diamond.

Today was my proposal, I have to agree even my gf who is picky with diamonds likes it, says a lot about their quality.

One doesn't need to shop too much if u done your research online. I did my research 90 percent online and 10 percent scouting. Jann Paul is All Over The Net when it comes to positive reviews, and yeah for someone who does not normally give feedbacks, yeah I'm giving one now.

 

[couscous]

visted vivo diamonds and ling jewellery before the saga..

in the end, i bought a proposal ring with ling jewellery..

quite fortunate that i made a decision to purchase with ling jewellery

 

[Lucask83]

So let's say 0.5 G vs 0.4 D-F, I think it'll be more sensible to take the 0.5? I just not sure how low can one go for the color though most would recommend F is the lowest.

I guess F should be low.. You prob wouldn't want to see yellow in the Diamond

 

[bonkbonk]

After reading the forum n looking at the terms online...
I realise for any diamond below 0.4carat...
The specs become less important as its too small a diamond...
And now im so confused cos i want to propose and given my gf is not a material person(i do hope im true given our time together)
I really dunno i should get a good small diamond ring or a simple average diamond ring n use the $ for other stuff

 

[fabiaN__]

After reading the forum n looking at the terms online...
I realise for any diamond below 0.4carat...
The specs become less important as its too small a diamond...
And now im so confused cos i want to propose and given my gf is not a material person(i do hope im true given our time together)
I really dunno i should get a good small diamond ring or a simple average diamond ring n use the $ for other stuff

IMO, I think you should give the best that you can afford.. and make her happy!

 

[evets]

Putting colour at the last of the 4Cs, would you choose a bigger carat or a better colour assuming the cut is the same?

I will go for a bigger carat.

The colour different are usually more apparent when it is loose stone and when u place them side by side, inverted.

once the diamond is set, the colour different will not be obvious.

In this case, a bigger stone will stand out.

 

[fabiaN__]

Putting colour at the last of the 4Cs, would you choose a bigger carat or a better colour assuming the cut is the same?

I think you already answered your own qn by putting colour at the last of the 4 C's...?

If cut and clarity are the same, I guess I'll go for carat..

 

[Lucask83]

After reading the forum n looking at the terms online...
I realise for any diamond below 0.4carat...
The specs become less important as its too small a diamond...
And now im so confused cos i want to propose and given my gf is not a material person(i do hope im true given our time together)
I really dunno i should get a good small diamond ring or a simple average diamond ring n use the $ for other stuff

Maybe u can share ur budget and you might want to go for bigger carat

 

[xtwis7]

I think you already answered your own qn by putting colour at the last of the 4 C's...?

If cut and clarity are the same, I guess I'll go for carat..

I just don't know how low I will go. I guess I just need to take a look at the actual diamonds to see for myself. Like between a F and a G, if I can't tell the difference I'll definitely go for the G with a slightly superior cut or carat.

 

[fabiaN__]

I just don't know how low I will go. I guess I just need to take a look at the actual diamonds to see for myself. Like between a F and a G, if I can't tell the difference I'll definitely go for the G with a slightly superior cut or carat.

then it really depends if you can tell the difference between F or G.

IMO, if you look at colour G alone, and find it OK, then there's probably not a need to get a better colour.

i was initially looking at colours from D to F... and settled for the in between, together with clarity of VVS1. carat-wise, ~0.07 carat smaller than the one which i'd love to buy, but is outta my budget... haha.

 

[bonkbonk]

Any advice on which may be a better choice ?

Diamond 0.4 carat, Color: G
Cut grade: Excellent , clarity grade: VVS1 with indented natural finish, polish n symmetry both excellent
Table 56%, depth 62.5%

Together with white gold setting abt $1830 from lovis

And another one 0.42 carat color i but clarity grade is IF with triple excellent selling at $1459 just diamond

 

[spLeenfuL]

Any advice on which may be a better choice ?

Diamond 0.4 carat, Color: G
Cut grade: Excellent , clarity grade: VVS1 with indented natural finish, polish n symmetry both excellent
Table 56%, depth 62.5%

Together with white gold setting abt $1830 from lovis

And another one 0.42 carat color i but clarity grade is IF with triple excellent selling at $1459 just diamond

You got the Certificate #? Scopes will be useful too.
62.5% depth is on the deep side.. it'll make the diamond look smaller than usual.

How come you going for low color but super high clarity? Personally, I would rather pay for a better cut and color.. clarity not that impt to me.

 

[bonkbonk]

Gia report 2166399067
610720615561

You got the Certificate #? Scopes will be useful too.
62.5% depth is on the deep side.. it'll make the diamond look smaller than usual.

How come you going for low color but super high clarity? Personally, I would rather pay for a better cut and color.. clarity not that impt to me.

 

[bonkbonk]

My budget is only about $2k~$2.5k, G color i see still alright but when i compare with I IF clarity i realise it is brighter than the G tts why im considering but dun know if its worth it...
(I ranked by clarity, depth%, table%, color, then carat according to budget since cut is mostly ideal/excellent in most gia stones, making sure tt triple excellent on polish symmetry and cut.）

You got the Certificate #? Scopes will be useful too.
62.5% depth is on the deep side.. it'll make the diamond look smaller than usual.

How come you going for low color but super high clarity? Personally, I would rather pay for a better cut and color.. clarity not that impt to me.

 

[spLeenfuL]

My budget is only about $2k~$2.5k, G color i see still alright but when i compare with I IF clarity i realise it is brighter than the G tts why im considering but dun know if its worth it...
(I ranked by clarity, depth%, table%, color, then carat according to budget since cut is mostly ideal/excellent in most gia stones, making sure tt triple excellent on polish symmetry and cut.）

Hmmm.. Clarity doesn't affect the brightness of the diamond le. As long as the inclusion is eye clean, you won't be able to see a diff. Personally, I will rank Cut>Carat>Color>Clarity.

Cut - Affect brightness/sparkle/size/brilliance
Carat - size
Color - Body color
Clarity - inclusions/blemishes

If you're aiming for the diamond to standout in terms of sparkles, it is the cut.
GIA triple excellent doesn't confirm it's a good diamond. You need to check with the scopes. $2k is still alot of money bro.. I think you should research abit more first.

Bad cut = more light leakage

 

[bonkbonk]

Thank you for helping bro, scopes meaning looking at the hearts and arrows right
, forgot to do tt yesterday

Hmmm.. Clarity doesn't affect the brightness of the diamond le. As long as the inclusion is eye clean, you won't be able to see a diff. Personally, I will rank Cut>Carat>Color>Clarity.

Cut - Affect brightness/sparkle/size/brilliance
Carat - size
Color - Body color
Clarity - inclusions/blemishes

If you're aiming for the diamond to standout in terms of sparkles, it is the cut.
GIA triple excellent doesn't confirm it's a good diamond. You need to check with the scopes. $2k is still alot of money bro.. I think you should research abit more first.