Proposal Ring - Part 2

[jimlwk]

do you have a certificate and the hearts and arrow scope... ideal and aset scope also?
bros here can help you assess the diamond..

Here's the link to the GIA cert:
https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=2121924041&weight=0.63

I don't have the HnA scopes high res pictures and doubt will have since my private jeweller don't invest heavily in such tools like JP. He quoted me several GIA diamonds and I managed to choose these as having the best proportion (CA and PA) and weight I wanted.

He does have a normal HnA scope though and I have seen his diamonds with almost similar proportions. IMHO, very nice and symmetrical HnA. Of cos, NPNT.. haha

 

[[GorgeouS]]

Chill guys, not from JP and I didn't mention also. This thread is very JP btw,

Anw, 0.24 are the total carat weights for the side diamonds, meaning each of the 14 of them about 0.017 in carat weight.

I am just glad I didn't overpay though. It's a private jeweller btw.

Tiff is selling a very similar spec one for $12.5k and I going to get mine for less than half price.

For me, fluorescence not impt cos gf dun club so UV not of a concern.

Design is something like this:
http://www.tiffany.com.au/Shared/Engagement/Media/Products/SKU/GRP10016/23464489_d_1_1.jpg

Bro.. UV light is not only in clubs.. the sun rays also have UV light too.. this means that the diamond is affected whenever it is outside under the sun... or in a club..

 

[[GorgeouS]]

Here's the link to the GIA cert:
https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=2121924041&weight=0.63

I don't have the HnA scopes high res pictures and doubt will have since my private jeweller don't invest heavily in such tools like JP. He quoted me several GIA diamonds and I managed to choose these as having the best proportion (CA and PA) and weight I wanted.

He does have a normal HnA scope though and I have seen his diamonds with almost similar proportions. IMHO, very nice and symmetrical HnA. Of cos, NPNT.. haha

Actually, the Ideal scope and ASET scope is not expensive.. you can buy them online for less than a $100. It's a good investment if your jeweler don't use them.. Cos the Hearts and Arrows scope only shows the symmetry.. it doesn't show the light leakages..

People usually stick to star facets lengths of 55%.. cos any below means smaller sparkle and fire..

 

[jimlwk]

Bro.. UV light is not only in clubs.. the sun rays also have UV light too.. this means that the diamond is affected whenever it is outside under the sun... or in a club..

http://www.pricescope.com/files/images/wiki_images/EllenFaintFluor.jpg

Found this sample of a faint fluo diamond,

The articles reads, "The photo below shows a diamond with negligible fluorescence taken in direct sunlight. Note that diamonds usually appear quite dark when seen in direct sunlight, a fact that alarms many first time diamond buyers. Since diamonds can look dark in direct sunlight, the fact that some fluorescent diamonds get a slight blue tinge should not be a big deal. The diamond below looks very bright and lively with no reduction of brightness or fire. "

But, personally, still fine with it. In fact, the faint blue gives a little bit of personality.

Of cos, this: http://www.pricescope.com/files/images/wiki_images/TotalNewbieFluor1.jpg
is too extreme.

 

[BoulevardLim]

decided for a cushion brellia yesterday after seeing this video..

my wife sure will be as dazzled as i am....

Hmm there was a few mentioning of diffuse lighting in this video...
Any bros here care to enlighten me what kind of lighting condition is categorised as diffused lighting?

 

[jimlwk]

Actually, the Ideal scope and ASET scope is not expensive.. you can buy them online for less than a $100. It's a good investment if your jeweler don't use them.. Cos the Hearts and Arrows scope only shows the symmetry.. it doesn't show the light leakages..

People usually stick to star facets lengths of 55%.. cos any below means smaller sparkle and fire..

My jeweller does have a tool to let me see the hearts and arrow. It's a scope with a black base with slots for the loose diamonds. But I don't thick can take such high res photos like JP's using his tools. Don't think he owns an SLR.

But if the ring and diamond is set already, can I still use the ideal and ASET scope at home?

 

[[GorgeouS]]

My jeweller does have a tool to let me see the hearts and arrow. It's a scope with a black base with slots for the loose diamonds. But I don't thick can take such high res photos like JP's using his tools. Don't think he owns an SLR.

But if the ring and diamond is set already, can I still use the ideal and ASET scope at home?

The one with the black base should be the Hearts and Arrows Scope. I'm not too sure if you can still use the Ideal and Aset Scope after the diamond is set.. cos it needs the light box at the bottom..

You don't need the SLR to take the photos.. During my appointment, JP used their iphone to take photos of the diamond in all 3 scopes to show.

 

[yvette]

http://www.pricescope.com/files/images/wiki_images/EllenFaintFluor.jpg

Found this sample of a faint fluo diamond,

The articles reads, "The photo below shows a diamond with negligible fluorescence taken in direct sunlight. Note that diamonds usually appear quite dark when seen in direct sunlight, a fact that alarms many first time diamond buyers. Since diamonds can look dark in direct sunlight, the fact that some fluorescent diamonds get a slight blue tinge should not be a big deal. The diamond below looks very bright and lively with no reduction of brightness or fire. "

But, personally, still fine with it. In fact, the faint blue gives a little bit of personality.

Of cos, this: http://www.pricescope.com/files/images/wiki_images/TotalNewbieFluor1.jpg
is too extreme.

I remember KC told me with fluorescence, the diamond will become cloudy under sunlight. even if it has a good cut and color, it will not be nice.

Anyone can re-confirm this?

 

[JellyMan]

Hi can anyone help? Is it possible to get a 12 sided diamond? Many thanks

 

[yvette]

Hi can anyone help? Is it possible to get a 12 sided diamond? Many thanks

i dont think so. the cut is so werid.
maybe you can try asking those private jewels.

 

[jhchoo85]

The one with the black base should be the Hearts and Arrows Scope. I'm not too sure if you can still use the Ideal and Aset Scope after the diamond is set.. cos it needs the light box at the bottom..

You don't need the SLR to take the photos.. During my appointment, JP used their iphone to take photos of the diamond in all 3 scopes to show.

There's a reason why most of us get out diamonds from JP... They show you every aspect of a diamond and not to mention their service and willingness to share their knowledge.

 

[jhchoo85]

I remember KC told me with fluorescence, the diamond will become cloudy under sunlight. even if it has a good cut and color, it will not be nice.

Anyone can re-confirm this?

Fluorescence makes the diamond appear hazy or oily..

"Theory has it that Diamond Fluorescence makes colourless Diamonds appear cloudier, and causes faintly yellow Diamonds to appear whiter."

Diamond Fluorescence | Diamonds Buyer Guide

There is a big debate about it.. but the general consensus is that you should only have fluorescence if you're getting a yellow diamond (like K L M colors). The haziness will make the yellow diamond looks whiter.. If you're going for a good color grade diamond.. best is to avoid. Especially if your spending your lifetime savings on something.. I'd rather not risk it and have a peace of mind..

My mum has a faint Fluorescence diamond and it doesn't look as good as what I got for my SO from JP. But then maybe cause we got a Super Ideal diamond..

I noticed when under the sunlight when you get a slight tinge the diamond itself looks very faint murky with the slight blue even with faint fluorescence.

 

[hazel_ice]

Fluorescence makes the diamond appear hazy or oily..

"Theory has it that Diamond Fluorescence makes colourless Diamonds appear cloudier, and causes faintly yellow Diamonds to appear whiter."

Diamond Fluorescence | Diamonds Buyer Guide

There is a big debate about it.. but the general consensus is that you should only have fluorescence if you're getting a yellow diamond (like K L M colors). The haziness will make the yellow diamond looks whiter.. If you're going for a good color grade diamond.. best is to avoid. Especially if your spending your lifetime savings on something.. I'd rather not risk it and have a peace of mind..

My mum has a faint Fluorescence diamond and it doesn't look as good as what I got for my SO from JP. But then maybe cause we got a Super Ideal diamond..

I noticed when under the sunlight when you get a slight tinge the diamond itself looks very faint murky with the slight blue even with faint fluorescence.

same here wor~ flourescence i can see very obvious de~

 

[hazel_ice]

decided for a cushion brellia yesterday after seeing this video..

my wife sure will be as dazzled as i am....

wah this video very nice!~

Hmm there was a few mentioning of diffuse lighting in this video...
Any bros here care to enlighten me what kind of lighting condition is categorised as diffused lighting?

diffuse lighting is those kind of lighting we see everywhere and everyday? should be bah~ i placed my jp ring under home lighting can see the arrows also le~

 

[brahm1979]

Actually, the Ideal scope and ASET scope is not expensive.. you can buy them online for less than a $100. It's a good investment if your jeweler don't use them.. Cos the Hearts and Arrows scope only shows the symmetry.. it doesn't show the light leakages..

People usually stick to star facets lengths of 55%.. cos any below means smaller sparkle and fire..

Anyone knows where in sg to get this?

10X Loupe, The Gemologists Best Friend

Can use "Asco Aplanetic Loupe 10X - 2 Wide Lenses" to inspect diamonds/gems?

 

[JellyMan]

i dont think so. the cut is so werid.
maybe you can try asking those private jewels.

OOh Thanks

How about this jeweler?

Engagement Rings, Diamonds, Wedding Rings and Fine Jewelry at Blue Nile

 

[BoulevardLim]

wah this video very nice!~



diffuse lighting is those kind of lighting we see everywhere and everyday? should be bah~ i placed my jp ring under home lighting can see the arrows also le~

Thanks!
Another question, 3 diamonds ring, is it suitable for using as proposal ring?

 

[yvette]

OOh Thanks

How about this jeweler?

Engagement Rings, Diamonds, Wedding Rings and Fine Jewelry at Blue Nile

i have not get anything from them before so i cant comment much.
but i always surf their website to see the ring designs

my advice is since you are buying a diamond with your hardearned $$$ for your love one, i think you should carefully pick and choose a diamond you can see personally youself, and then decide.

 

[llvisionll]

seen octagon diamond before but not dodecagon.
Did you personally seen it before? Very interest shape.
After all, its depend on your carat size, the smaller the size, your dodecagon shape will gonna to look more like round shape.

Sorry, very noob here. Is it possible to get a 12 sided polygon (Dodecagon) Diamond?

 

[JellyMan]

i have not get anything from them before so i cant comment much.
but i always surf their website to see the ring designs

my advice is since you are buying a diamond with your hardearned $$$ for your love one, i think you should carefully pick and choose a diamond you can see personally youself, and then decide.

Ya, me too. Using that as a reference site now. Useful info available too