Proposal Ring - Part 2

[oMoLieLuD]

Not usre about eclarity and josi, but personally I do not really like vivo. If you want good diamond and ring customization, you may want to visit JannPaul and Ling jewellery.

I heard JP offers interest-free instalments for credit card?

if so i might be booking an apptment soon.

 

[reggiee8]

Any kind souls can recommend me a few jewellers like eclarity, vivo and josi gems?

I looking to choose my own diamond and custom make my setting.

I would also like to purchase by interest-free instalments.

Does eclarity, viv and josi gems offer interest-free instalments via cc?

Thanks in advance for your help.

I got mine from eclarity - they offer citibank or UOB 0% installment plans. I think the repayment plan ranges from 6 - 12 months depending on the price of your ring.

Quite like their service. Not pushy. Went there with a budget and carat size in mind, she showed us a few diamonds and asked if we could tell the difference between them Listed their specs and price and we didn't have to decide on the spot.

Went back another day to purchase it after consideration, she showed us some ring settings and placed the diamond on top for us to choose the setting.

 

[[GorgeouS]]

I got mine from eclarity - they offer citibank or UOB 0% installment plans. I think the repayment plan ranges from 6 - 12 months depending on the price of your ring.

Quite like their service. Not pushy. Went there with a budget and carat size in mind, she showed us a few diamonds and asked if we could tell the difference between them Listed their specs and price and we didn't have to decide on the spot.

Went back another day to purchase it after consideration, she showed us some ring settings and placed the diamond on top for us to choose the setting.

I've went to e-clarity and didn't quite like them... Although the owner seems to be a gemologist, she doesn't seem to be very honest with her diamonds. She wasn't happy when I asked some questions about her diamonds and didn't take me seriously.. They got some a handful of bad reviews too.

This was a recent review I read a few weeks back on another forum (flowerpod). You need to be a member to read the posts so I'll just paste below.


"My husband lost his wedding band last December. To save some costs, we decided to try out Eclarity at Shaw Towers which is supposedly well-known for customisation of rings.

They acted very professionally during our first appt by taking pictures of my wedding band and measurements, etc. They claimed they could mimic the ring exactly and told us not to worry. They quoted us a price of $1150 (for just one band!). But we still decided to give them a try since going back to the retail shop (Cartier) to buy back a similar ring would cost us twice the price. We were then informed that the ring would be ready in Jan before CNY. For info, our band was the tri-tone trinity ring (made up of rose gold, white gold and yellow gold).

To our horror, when Eclarity called us up to collect the ring for the first time, the ring was:
i) Very thin in width
ii) The Rose/white/yellow gold segments were UNEVEN in width..one thicker than the other
iii) Our original band also had grooves but the ring they showed us was smooth

We were extremely disappointed and told them to re-make it. They said ok and I even left MY wedding band with them so they could have a real sample to look at for better replication.

Three weeks later, when my husband went back to collect the ring for the 2nd time, he was once again disappointed to see that the changes were not done:
i) The grooves were not deep enough
ii) The widths of the rose/white/yellow gold were not similar

The shop owner claimed that ALL their rings are handcrafted, and to mimic our wedding band, they would require a machine to mill it. Hence they couldn't achieve a similar design.
On top of that, the engraving that was supposed to be in the ring didnt even look realistic, but appeared like a 'light' imprint on the ring. And as expected, the shop owner gave excuses claiming that their engraving is very special and even Tiffany & Co sends their rings down to their workshop for engraving. If we were to follow the engraving on my ring, the effect would not be beautiful under the microscope( appearing like jagged lines) I cannot accept such a ridiculous explanation and told her once again that I would like to replicate a ring that's exactly the same as my original band. The shop owner then said that she would expedite the alterations (AGAIN!).

The third visit to the shop proved disappointing yet again. With only slight improvements to the ring. We are particularly upset that we had paid $1k plus to get a ring that's thin and without the gold weight it deserves. The shop owner said initially that because our ring is thick, she even charged as a couple of hundred more for the gold weight. In the end, hubby decided to just accept the ring because he was tired of arguing with the shop owner. It has been a good 3 months.

This is a long post but we are upset enough to type out our whole experience. For people who are considering Eclarity, note that the shopowner may appear professional and she certainly is a smooth talker.. but at the end of the day, it's all talk only. They couldn't deliver a good quality product."


Btw, I remember you posting to sell 1ct IGI diamond a few months back... was it from them?

 

[reggiee8]

Ah, yes its me.
Nope, that was from citigems.
Hmm, we bought a diamond ring, not wedding band. Will bear this in mind when we get ours!

 

[anonym]

People told me I should get a >10k tiffany ring if I want to go for a tiffany ring because otherwise the carat will be too small (usually 0.5 Carat).

Then what is a reasonable carat size to buy? And how much should I budget for a decent tiffany ring? Is 10k enough or more like 15k?

Thanks.

 

[larcano]

I heard JP offers interest-free instalments for credit card?

if so i might be booking an apptment soon.

Yup, using UOB or Citibank cc.

 

[horlickz]

Symmetry Cut Polish
GIA Ex Ex Ex
AGS Ideal Ideal Ideal

Hi Guys,

What is the different from both of them? is AGS 3x Ideal def better than GIA 3x Ex?

Is there really Super Ideal from JP?

I need 1 with good shine/cut.

AGS and GIA have different standards. Different definition on what is Ideal/Excellent. It's just names that they self invent... in general GIA is the more recognised and more strict ones. Assuming a diamond cannot be Ex in GIA, people might go for AGS to make it look better.

Super Ideal from JP is similar to Destinee and other super uber excellents from other jewellers. They focus on a certain criteria, select their diamonds and brand it as such.

I think JP focuses on perfect heart and arrows and sparkles? Not too sure... but it seems to be that they focus a lot on how shiny it is... haha.

 

[jhchoo85]

People told me I should get a >10k tiffany ring if I want to go for a tiffany ring because otherwise the carat will be too small (usually 0.5 Carat).

Then what is a reasonable carat size to buy? And how much should I budget for a decent tiffany ring? Is 10k enough or more like 15k?

Thanks.

A 0.5ct will need over 10k in Tiffany... But I think it's an over kill.. For 10k, it can get you a much bigger carat size somewhere else. With that amount of money, you might as well consider other diamond cuts like the Solasfera which is known to perform better.. And it's not like Tiffany diamonds are more shiny... it's all the money goes to their branding...

But if you're GF insists on a Tiffany ring only, you have no choice

 

[jhchoo85]

AGS and GIA have different standards. Different definition on what is Ideal/Excellent. It's just names that they self invent... in general GIA is the more recognised and more strict ones. Assuming a diamond cannot be Ex in GIA, people might go for AGS to make it look better.

Super Ideal from JP is similar to Destinee and other super uber excellents from other jewellers. They focus on a certain criteria, select their diamonds and brand it as such.

I think JP focuses on perfect heart and arrows and sparkles? Not too sure... but it seems to be that they focus a lot on how shiny it is... haha.

Actually, JP is not really similar to Destinee...
Destinee is the top quality range in Lee Hwa... but they don't use the HCA, ASET or Ideal Scope to analyze the diamond.
JP uses these tools... So in terms of quality control, I would say JP have a much tighter quality control... even though Destinee diamonds are priced much higher...

 

[recnamor]

Within Destinee diamonds, there is a premium range called Destinée Royale. Destinée Royale is the ‘another’ version of the already patented Solasfera, hence that explained the 10 hearts and arrows in Royale. To avoid any patent legal issue, Royale had to modify their cut to 81 facets instead of 91 facets.

However, in term of tight control and requirement for diamond performances, Solasfera is the winner in my opinion. I don’t think Destinee Royale diamonds will provide GEMEX report card like Solasfera.

We will wait for someone to prove Destinee Royale is more superior than Solasfera.

Actually, JP is not really similar to Destinee...
Destinee is the top quality range in Lee Hwa... but they don't use the HCA, ASET or Ideal Scope to analyze the diamond.
JP uses these tools... So in terms of quality control, I would say JP have a much tighter quality control... even though Destinee diamonds are priced much higher...

 

[jhchoo85]

Within Destinee diamonds, there is a premium range called Destinée Royale. Destinée Royale is the ‘another’ version of the already patented Solasfera, hence that explained the 10 hearts and arrows in Royale. To avoid any patent legal issue, Royale had to modify their cut to 81 facets instead of 91 facets.

However, in term of tight control and requirement for diamond performances, Solasfera is the winner in my opinion. I don’t think Destinee Royale diamonds will provide GEMEX report card like Solasfera.

We will wait for someone to prove Destinee Royale is more superior than Solasfera.

I would love to see the Destinee Royale with the different scopes though... It's a pity they don't provide these services... but the price they charge for their "version" of the Solasfera is ridiculous... It's just unaffordable..

 

[silent_espy]

Yup, using UOB or Citibank cc.

Thanks for all the help guys.

Im going to book an apptment.

 

[recnamor]

They only provide ideal scope, and their prices are atrocious.

I would love to see the Destinee Royale with the different scopes though... It's a pity they don't provide these services... but the price they charge for their "version" of the Solasfera is ridiculous... It's just unaffordable..

 

[st0ry88]

People told me I should get a >10k tiffany ring if I want to go for a tiffany ring because otherwise the carat will be too small (usually 0.5 Carat).

Then what is a reasonable carat size to buy? And how much should I budget for a decent tiffany ring? Is 10k enough or more like 15k?

Thanks.

Tiffany 0.5+ can get ard $6.5k but I color n SI1 clarity. But somehow they say their I color is = to better grade de others. Maybe a G or H outside. But look, u r payin more for brand den carat size. For ladies I think carat size is more important den brand cos ppl can't tell it from Tiffany unless u mention it urself.

Jus my 2 cents

 

[Carnage]

I would love to see the Destinee Royale with the different scopes though... It's a pity they don't provide these services... but the price they charge for their "version" of the Solasfera is ridiculous... It's just unaffordable..

10 months ago when I started researching diamonds, 0.7++ ct was more than 11k.

No side diamonds on ring. Go figure.

I think I can get a solasfera with side diamonds for more than 0.8 ct at that price.

 

[jhchoo85]

10 months ago when I started researching diamonds, 0.7++ ct was more than 11k.

No side diamonds on ring. Go figure.

I think I can get a solasfera with side diamonds for more than 0.8 ct at that price.

I remember being quoted a 0.61 D VS1 for $13k+. Can't remember if it was for the Destinee or Destinee Royale... but either way.. its crazy..

 

[yvette]

I remember being quoted a 0.61 D VS1 for $13k+. Can't remember if it was for the Destinee or Destinee Royale... but either way.. its crazy..

i was quoted $22k for ard 0.8 F diamond not sure was Destinee or Destinee Royale.... it's crazy!

 

[final1]

Solasfera 1.08 ct, G, VS1 bought for about $19k-ish last year.
So, that gives you guys a gauge.

 

[The Engagement Ring Shop]

Dear Sean & Huiqi ,

If you think that people on the forum who read this will quickly think badly of us or cast an opinion on us , you may be mistaken .
I believe they know that any criticism or any praise , on a forum , has to be taken with a pinch of salt .
And whoever is right or wrong , to fairly judge them , you need to give both parties the right to speak up .
And whatever we say must be backed up by evidence .
So instead of warning others , it is possible that you may be misleading others as well .

in our 5 years of business , having served countless customers , with all our Heart & Passion ,
we have never had to refund a customer's deposit & return a confirmed Order .
As we are not a Branded company , all the more , we have to do more for every customer.
Give a better price , Give a better quality , & Give a better Smile ...
Or we cannot have survived for 5 years ...
So Forum Readers have to ask , why did we have to do this ?

If you feel you have lost time & energy , its fair to say we have expanded just as much time , effort & energy .....
Your wedding is on September 30th 2012 , its almost 6 months away ....
so we would not have returned your order & full deposit , without knowing that you still had ample time to use another jeweller and be more satisfied .

We all need our RiceBowl , we all have a Family & children to feed , Its unfair of us to simply bad mouth others without proof ...and destroy other people's
livelihood ....
This is definitely not a Right thing to do , more so , we have not insulted you , cheated you or broken the law .

This is simply a case where we could not agree on something and it was best for both parties to move on .
Both of us have lost just as much time , effort & energy .

we wish you all the best !

Regards , david

 

[Siyu]

Dear Sean & Huiqi ,

If you think that people on the forum who read this will quickly think badly of us or cast an opinion on us , you may be mistaken .
I believe they know that any criticism or any praise , on a forum , has to be taken with a pinch of salt .
And whoever is right or wrong , to fairly judge them , you need to give both parties the right to speak up .
And whatever we say must be backed up by evidence .
So instead of warning others , it is possible that you may be misleading others as well .

in our 5 years of business , having served countless customers , with all our Heart & Passion ,
we have never had to refund a customer's deposit & return a confirmed Order .
As we are not a Branded company , all the more , we have to do more for every customer.
Give a better price , Give a better quality , & Give a better Smile ...
Or we cannot have survived for 5 years ...
So Forum Readers have to ask , why did we have to do this ?

If you feel you have lost time & energy , its fair to say we have expanded just as much time , effort & energy .....
Your wedding is on September 30th 2012 , its almost 6 months away ....
so we would not have returned your order & full deposit , without knowing that you still had ample time to use another jeweller and be more satisfied .

We all need our RiceBowl , we all have a Family & children to feed , Its unfair of us to simply bad mouth others without proof ...and destroy other people's
livelihood ....
This is definitely not a Right thing to do , more so , we have not insulted you , cheated you or broken the law .

This is simply a case where we could not agree on something and it was best for both parties to move on .
Both of us have lost just as much time , effort & energy .

we wish you all the best !

Regards , david

From their posts, they are really angry and upset with your service. You never really explain about the bad service, lack of reply, and 7 weeks is a long period. gosh.. Wedding takes so much time and effort, so what if they have 6 months, u wasted 7 weeks of their time. You have been in the industry for 5 years. yeah.. there are good times and bad times and different experiences with different customers.

A good suggestion is to contact them and apologize. If they accept and post here that they accept your apology, thats the best outcome. You create a new ID just to defend your name/reputation, never address their complains, then ask them to move on, let things go - of course they have to, their wedding is only 6 months ahead and you spoil their wedding prep. This is making things worse.
Contact them and bite the bullet la. please stop gg to different forum to defend, how can you keep up with someone so unhappy with you?

Your PR skill..
please dont attack me hor. i just saying a word of fairness. In Singapore, Consumers are king, esp to small business. all the more you got to excel in service.. wah lao. the more i read your explanation, i can understand what your mentality is. just defend defend defend.