Proposal Ring - Part 2

[gvronald]

Hi just curious why is everyone recommending Jane Paul ring?

Any specific reason and where is the shop located at?

 

[PreppyGirl]

Hi just curious why is everyone recommending Jane Paul ring?

Any specific reason and where is the shop located at?

Value for money and his diamonds are top notch and sparkly. Plus they give very good service too. Located at outside Far East Shopping centre behind wheelock place. Its called House of Hung.

 

[gvronald]

If I choose to custom made the ring how long will if take?

Value for money and his diamonds are top notch and sparkly. Plus they give very good service too. Located at outside Far East Shopping centre behind wheelock place. Its called House of Hung.

 

[octsky]

wat is ur budget? if ur budget only 1k to 2k. no really worth it to customize.

 

[gvronald]

Hmm if I want to custom made what is the budget I Shld be looking at?

 

[Requeroth]

Hmm if I want to custom made what is the budget I Shld be looking at?

Depends on the 4Cs. A lot of people would place priority on the cut, and carat.

Based on the JP customers in this thread, I think the range most commonly falls within 4k-15k? There are a few who have bought 1c solasferas which costs over 20k.

 

[silent_espy]

Wheres jp situated? Cant find the shop. Isit in another shop?

 

[gvronald]

That is interesting but how fast can they custom made for me?

Then are three any nice reference designs to share?

 

[tpingyang]

Hi, any bro can comment on this GIA Graded Round Diamond - 0.64 Carat, E Color, VVS2 Clarity (#6107834479) in Diamonds | Excel Diamonds ?

The HCA I calculated is 1.3.

 

[jimlwk]

Hi, any bro can comment on this GIA Graded Round Diamond - 0.64 Carat, E Color, VVS2 Clarity (#6107834479) in Diamonds | Excel Diamonds ?

The HCA I calculated is 1.3.

It might not have a good Hearts & Arrows shape.

 

[tpingyang]

As in we would not know without looking at it through an ASET scope right?

 

[jimlwk]

As in we would not know without looking at it through an ASET scope right?

I used the above chart for my diamond.

Basically, IMHO, need to ensure GIA certify Excellent Cut then take a look at the crown and pavilion angle combinations chart above. Those with bold are the best HnA examples.

Of cos the best is still the scopes and such so request for them if possible.

 

[tpingyang]

I used the above chart for my diamond.

Basically, IMHO, need to ensure GIA certify Excellent Cut then take a look at the crown and pavilion angle combinations chart above. Those with bold are the best HnA examples.

Of cos the best is still the scopes and such so request for them if possible.

Alright thanks. Sent an email to request idealscope and ASET scope data. Will post here when i get it for further advice.

 

[Carnage]

Wheres jp situated? Cant find the shop. Isit in another shop?

Inside House of Hung.

 

[kendoarts]

It's hard to say without more info about the diamonds.. like is it
1. Triple Excellent?
2. Got fluorescence?
3. HCA Score
4. Most importantly, does it have light leakages under the Ideal/Aset scope
5. Symmetrical hearts and arrows?

You can save on the price.. but you don't want to sacrifice on the quality of the diamond either..

Thank you so much for the advice.
I'm not that knowledgable when it comes to Diamonds, therefore can I ask you what does each aspect of what you've mentioned mean?

1) Triple Excellent: Does it mean there are different grade to this? Is it related to any of the 4Cs?
2) Fluorescence: Is it good to have this or no?
3) HCA Score: How does the score work? Higher the better or...?
4) Light leakages means it's not a good diamond?
5) Hearts/Arrows: Does it mean having this shapes increase the quality or price of the diamond?

Appreciate any advice on this as I'm rather new to diamonds.

 

[horlickz]

Thank you so much for the advice.
I'm not that knowledgable when it comes to Diamonds, therefore can I ask you what does each aspect of what you've mentioned mean?

1) Triple Excellent: Does it mean there are different grade to this? Is it related to any of the 4Cs?
2) Fluorescence: Is it good to have this or no?
3) HCA Score: How does the score work? Higher the better or...?
4) Light leakages means it's not a good diamond?
5) Hearts/Arrows: Does it mean having this shapes increase the quality or price of the diamond?

Appreciate any advice on this as I'm rather new to diamonds.

1. Yes there are other grades, it's just a grading given by a rating agency like GIA for diamonds. A good diamond is triple excellent but triple excellent doesn't mean it's a good diamond... If you get what I mean.

2. None is the best

3. Lower is better. It's a mathematical formula to estimate how shiny it will be... It's used mainly to narrow down the search as the score by itself is not conclusive

4. Yes, but all diamonds have light leakage, otherwise just buy a bright LED for full light return

5. Price is a yes. Perfect ones costs more. Heart and arrows is basically symmetry... Also doesn't mean it's a good diamond in terms of shiny shiny terms.

That's why need to have triple excellent, low HCA, and look through scopes and see how it performs under different lighting to gauge. A small shiny diamond will look bigger nicer than a bigger dull diamond

 

[PreppyGirl]

If I choose to custom made the ring how long will if take?

I think it can range from 3-8 weeks depending on the design.

 

[DawnMin]

HCA is just a filter tool boys, don't use it as a buying decision

an example would be like:

you have 10 diamonds. checking all through scopes and loupes would not be efficient. So gathering their HCA scores, you can eliminate those of 2 or 1.5 and above.

now you're left say with 3 diamonds with low HCA scores,
You can check through the Idealscope / Aset / Hearts and Arrows.

Low HCA scores don't guarantee a good diamond. Because the percentages that you enter are rounded. Other than that, Idealscopes and Asets allow you to understand alot more about your diamond, are the arrows thin - smaller fire higher scintillation? (higher lower girdles) Are the arrows thick- larger fire smaller scintillation? (smaller lower girdles)

Buying a diamond based on numbers and papers is like buying a house based on it's brochure. With scopes you would be inspecting every part of your house.


-sorry let me try figuring out how to attach a video again

 

[DawnMin]

Both Aset and Hearts is important for analyzing modified cuts like Brellia

Aset > Ideal

Reds shows the whites
Greens shows the greys
Blue shows the blacks
White shows the leakage, messiness, milkyness

Scrolling the video to 2:47 you can see the normal cushion and the Brellia H&A.
Looking at where the reds are will get you the brightness, then the greens at the corners look grey? and the arrows look black. What this means is that when you set the Cushion Brellia up, the ring claws goes over the 4 green corners, allowing the Brellia to look extremely bright I don't think anyone noticed this before

The arrows(blue) on the aset act like mirrors to reflect fire, the reds get good amount of dispersion also (sparkes/fire) the greens only show at certain angles

If you see the normal cushion at the white regions are very dead in fire and the greens only show when the diamond gets tilted..

JP has another video about Hearts... can't seem to find it now

Well, i'm going to quote if people need to look at that video for ASET, i don't know how to do this video post thing

 

[gvronald]

Ohh but actually my girlfriend just like those simple design kind one round diamond in middle of the ring. If that is the case can get immed rite no need to custom design?

Actually what are the customs desig that people usually do?