Proposal Ring - Part 2

[DawnMin]

the quality of your images can't tell

 

[[GorgeouS]]

The pictures are too small and blur.. I can't make anything out of it.
Also need the Hearts and arrows scope. Its just as important.. PAUL HUNG: The Super Ideal Diamond: Symmetry

 

[Des126]

the quality of your images can't tell

so sorry for the bad quality image...i have just re-post the link

According to Kelvin from White Dwarf, 0.46ct & 0.48ct are Ideal H&A whereas 0.497ct is just AGS Triple Ideal. The hearts of 0.497ct is not as perfect as 0.46 & 0.48.

Appreciate you guys comments.

 

[Glitzger]

each melees is 0.03, my ring size is 7.

You?

Mine's super small... 0.007 to 0.009... makes me wonder if i can even see that the melees are nicer than the std diamonds... my ring size is much bigger than urs..think 9 or something...

 

[DawnMin]

here is the problem which lies in the HCA scoring limitations

for diamond number 2: the crown angle is above 35 degeres, which makes the diamond top heavy, this is why you're also sitting on the bare minimum of gia's cut grade excellent proportions. i just saw your hearts you uploaded too, the uneven clefting in the hearts shows the uneven lower girdle facets, also shows the table leakage at 2 oclock between the arrows (would not go with this)

i really don't know if you will want to consider SI1 especially with a feather on it, plus i can see the crystal inclusions right under the table and diamond 3 isn't a H&A at all. these are just "alright" excellent cuts, in whiteflash, they would just be under expert selection, not ACA

 

[Des126]

here is the problem which lies in the HCA scoring limitations

for diamond number 2: the crown angle is above 35 degeres, which makes the diamond top heavy, this is why you're also sitting on the bare minimum of gia's cut grade excellent proportions. i just saw your hearts you uploaded too, the uneven clefting in the hearts shows the uneven lower girdle facets, also shows the table leakage at 2 oclock between the arrows (would not go with this)

i really don't know if you will want to consider SI1 especially with a feather on it, plus i can see the crystal inclusions right under the table and diamond 3 isn't a H&A at all. these are just "alright" excellent cuts, in whiteflash, they would just be under expert selection, not ACA

You are right. I remembered he never mentioned to me that these are Super Ideal stones. He only highlighted these are their hand pick Ideal Cut diamond which i agree they would just be under "expect selection" like what you said but i'm quite happy with this quality of Aset image especially stones 1 & 2 if they are just Expect Selection, not ACA.

Honestly speaking, i like the Super Ideal from JP & ACA but the price is a bit higher for me. I prefer JP more than ACA as i would like to see the diamond in person before purchase. I doubt if i'm able to see any difference when compare these "Expect Selection" of stones with Super Ideal side by side. Furthermore, i remembered someone highlighted before not all ACA are Super Ideal.

Actually i dont really particular about clarity as long as they are eye clean. I consider these 3 stones as i found that it is not easy to get those carat weight that quite close to 0.5ct.

What do you guys think about the price based on the quality of the stones?

 

[[GorgeouS]]

You are right. I remembered he never mentioned to me that these are Super Ideal stones. He only highlighted these are their hand pick Ideal Cut diamond which i agree they would just be under "expect selection" like what you said but i'm quite happy with this quality of Aset image especially stones 1 & 2 if they are just Expect Selection, not ACA.

Honestly speaking, i like the Super Ideal from JP & ACA but the price is a bit higher for me. I prefer JP more than ACA as i would like to see the diamond in person before purchase. I doubt if i'm able to see any difference when compare these "Expect Selection" of stones with Super Ideal side by side. Furthermore, i remembered someone highlighted before not all ACA are Super Ideal.

Actually i dont really particular about clarity as long as they are eye clean. I consider these 3 stones as i found that it is not easy to get those carat weight that quite close to 0.5ct.

What do you guys think about the price based on the quality of the stones?

SI diamonds are hardly eye clean.. More importantly, it can affect the durability of the diamond.. some more its a feather.. I rather get a Super Ideal and spend abit more. You only buy a proposal ring once in your life..

Btw, girls have very sharper eyes. I can see the difference between Ideal and Super Ideal.

 

[yvette]

Mine's super small... 0.007 to 0.009... makes me wonder if i can even see that the melees are nicer than the std diamonds... my ring size is much bigger than urs..think 9 or something...

you can request to look at the actual melees before JP set them on the ring. i did too... just a 10-15mins appointment.

 

[Des126]

SI diamonds are hardly eye clean.. More importantly, it can affect the durability of the diamond.. some more its a feather.. I rather get a Super Ideal and spend abit more. You only buy a proposal ring once in your life..

Btw, girls have very sharper eyes. I can see the difference between Ideal and Super Ideal.

hehe...i have already bought my proposal ring a few years ago. My wife and i actually plan to remove the exsting 0.3ct 3EX to make a pendant and get a new ring which is close to 0.5ct.

She actually went together with me to White Dwarf last Friday evening. Honestly speaking, I am not able to see any inclusion with naked eye under different light condition. I was even advised to see the diamond with difference angle especially from the side view of pavilion but still spot nothing. To my surprise, my wife was also not able to see any inclusion at all. I believe this is becasue the inclusion is white & transparent. We only saw the white crystal when we used a loupe to inspect the stone.

As for the feather, i remembered Casey from JP mentioned before that we should pay attention to the feather's size and position. Generally, if a feather does not create an opening on the surface of the stone, does not reach the girdle edge or does not connect to other feathers near the surface, then it should not be a durability issue. Even Kelvin from White Dwarf also said so when i asked him the same question.

My wife has seen JP Super Ideal before and she noticed the diamond is brigther and whiter when compared to her ring. Again she did a comparison this time during our visit at White Dwarf and she also feel that stone 1 & 2 also looks very nice and very bright. Unfortunately, we can't compare JP Super Ideal & these 2 stones side by side. Now we would like to know if this is a good buy based on this price.

 

[Grizz.P]

hehe...i have already bought my proposal ring a few years ago. My wife and i actually plan to remove the exsting 0.3ct 3EX to make a pendant and get a new ring which is close to 0.5ct.

She actually went together with me to White Dwarf last Friday evening. Honestly speaking, I am not able to see any inclusion with naked eye under different light condition. I was even advised to see the diamond with difference angle especially from the side view of pavilion but still spot nothing. To my surprise, my wife was also not able to see any inclusion at all. I believe this is becasue the inclusion is white & transparent. We only saw the white crystal when we used a loupe to inspect the stone.

As for the feather, i remembered Casey from JP mentioned before that we should pay attention to the feather's size and position. Generally, if a feather does not create an opening on the surface of the stone, does not reach the girdle edge or does not connect to other feathers near the surface, then it should not be a durability issue. Even Kelvin from White Dwarf also said so when i asked him the same question.

My wife has seen JP Super Ideal before and she noticed the diamond is brigther and whiter when compared to her ring. Again she did a comparison this time during our visit at White Dwarf and she also feel that stone 1 & 2 also looks very nice and very bright. Unfortunately, we can't compare JP Super Ideal & these 2 stones side by side. Now we would like to know if this is a good buy based on this price.

Well, you need to compare apples with apples. One is Super Ideal and the other Ideal. Since this is your second upgrade diamond, you might as well go for a perfect one (then next time no need to upgrade again ). Or you can a Solasfera for that extra bling.

 

[Des126]

Well, you need to compare apples with apples. One is Super Ideal and the other Ideal. Since this is your second upgrade diamond, you might as well go for a perfect one (then next time no need to upgrade again ). Or you can a Solasfera for that extra bling.

i wish but i dont have the budget for Solasfera....by the way..i noticed there are many rich guys here...

 

[yamcancook]

Any fantastic designs for rings they have for men? i am thinking of getting one myself. lol

 

[sweetthinker]

i wish but i dont have the budget for Solasfera....by the way..i noticed there are many rich guys here...

Actually, the Super Ideal and Solasfera is great value for money, if you take into account the quality of the diamond. I made a mistake by buying a Tiffany ring on impulse. It was way over valued.. Like you, I went to purchase a second diamond ring, but a much bigger and better one (Super Ideal). I'd only go for Super Ideal diamonds from now on.. The experience of a lower grade diamond is not worth it.

At the end of the day, like Grizz.p said, if you get a perfect one, you won't need to waste money upgrading again. But of course, second grade diamond would have second grade prices..

 

[Glitzger]

you can request to look at the actual melees before JP set them on the ring. i did too... just a 10-15mins appointment.

I saw it already..when I went to confirm my wedding band design.. Very tiny lo... Haha... Didn't have a comparison with other normal diamonds so cannot tell.. Looks ordinary to me.. =p

 

[Eugene_Hunk]

Just collected my Solasfera ring and I'm really happy!
Thumbs up for JP, anyway I've requested for a video and also the ring tracking on their blog which Casey started recently, can't wait for it to be out Casey Lai

Video is up:

Love the video!

Very nice bro... Can recycle the video for your wedding too.

 

[hnrch42]

Any fantastic designs for rings they have for men? i am thinking of getting one myself. lol

I saw this set on their facebook. Looks very unique. The guys ring also matches the girls diamond ring and band.

 

[dicxz80]

I was quoted 3 stones from White Dwarf. The service is very good and similar with JannPaul where a thorough tutorial was given. I was served by Kelvin, the Manager of White Dwarf who is quite freindly and no pushy sales.

Below are the stones i am interested in:

GIA 6132500579 0.46ct 3EX D SI1 (HCA 1.1) - SGD1900

View image: GIA 3 EX 0 46 D SI1

View image: GIA 3 EX 0 46 D SI1 Hearts


GIA 2136328084 0.48ct 3EX E VS1 (HCA 1.4) - SGD2280

View image: GIA 3 EX 0 48 E VS1

View image: GIA 3 EX 0 48 E VS1 Hearts


AGS 104046540029 0.497ct AGS000 F VS2 (HCA 1.3) - SGD2100

View image: AGS000 0 497 F VS2

View image: AGS000 0 497 F VS2 Hearts

Any comments about the quality & price?

if you are looking for value for money

I will go for diamond 3

though seems the H&A is not ideal and seems there is light leakage in 5:00 area ?

are you buying online ? else try to compare diamond 2 and 3

price wise seems ok, GST included ?

for diamond 1, buying D colour for SI1 is wasted ><

 

[Des126]

if you are looking for value for money

I will go for diamond 3

though seems the H&A is not ideal and seems there is light leakage in 5:00 area ?

are you buying online ? else try to compare diamond 2 and 3

price wise seems ok, GST included ?

for diamond 1, buying D colour for SI1 is wasted ><

Thanks a lot for the advise.

No. I am not buying online. I have seen all these 3 diamonds in person. They are all from White Dwarf - WhiteDwarf Pte Ltd

I went to their office via appointment last Friday. I was served by the Manager, Kelvin and according to him their website is currently under contruction.

Regarding the light leakage in 5.00 area, i noticed it when i used the Aset scope to view the diamond. According to Kelvin, this is caused by the uneven drill hole in the Aset plastic base. When he turned the diamond 90 degree i still saw the light leakage at 5.00. The same thing also happen to Diamond 1 & 2. You can see it in the image i posted.

Yes. The quoted are nett prices. They do not charge GST.

I actually prefer diamond 2 than diamond 3 as i can see the color difference when they show me all these 3 diamonds under gems light with pavilion facing top.

 

[dicxz80]

Thanks a lot for the advise.

No. I am not buying online. I have seen all these 3 diamonds in person. They are all from White Dwarf - WhiteDwarf Pte Ltd

I went to their office via appointment last Friday. I was served by the Manager, Kelvin and according to him their website is currently under contruction.

Yes. The quoted are nett prices. They do not charge GST.

I actually prefer diamond 2 than diamond 3 as i can see the color difference when they show me all these 3 diamonds under gems light with pavilion facing top.

good to know that you can compare the diamond side by side personally

the price is very good !

I doubt you can see the difference in term of sparkle, fire, scintillation and fire between one of these three to that super ideal diamond

colour wise, I had same experience, colour diff can only be seen when I saw it from the pavilion angle, but not sure will it affect anything once diamond is mounted to ring

happy buying !

 

[144_genting]

Hi Guys,

going for my appt soon. what you guys suggest i can get with a 10k budget?