Proposal Ring - Part 2

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That will mean medium to slightly thick is fine I suppose. The 0.55 is sold. The after sales service I am getting is kind of disappointing slow. I was told by the service staff he will sms me the price quotes of other available ones on Saturday. I didnt get one. Today Sunday got a call, excuse was Saturday was busy. I'm fine with that. Told me that they had 3 other dimes, carat size n GIA number. I wanted the price and he told me he will SMS to right after the phone conversation. He needs to calculate.. After 1 hr I didn't get the SMS, I took the initiative to SMS Him, his reply was, I'll get it to u tomorrow.

I'm running out of patience. It seems like the delay was on purpose.

Have they replied to you today?
 

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going to cape town nxt month
CD2011OR
0.84ct PLAT
0.6ct H/Vs2
platinum or white gold better?
CD1526OR.jpg
 

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Have they replied to you today?

Yup the sales person replied with a SMS last night. Followed by a call to myself (unintentionally) which i pick up and I heard him complaining about me asking for prices. When he heard my voice I think he realized he called the wrong person and pretended to be not able to hear my voice and then put down e phone. Subsequently he called me again but I couldn't be bothered to answer.

I am quite appalled by this behavior and quite disgusted. I think he just lost it totally.

Damage control probably, this morning he SMS me telling me two diamonds are being released from reservation and the next shipment will have something close to what I want in by 2nd wk of feb. initially he said next shipment may take months. Earliest is march.

If only this was done right from the start with the proper mindset that clients have the right to choose.

*shakes head*
 
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going to cape town nxt month
CD2011OR
0.84ct PLAT
0.6ct H/Vs2
platinum or white gold better?
CD1526OR.jpg

Remember to bring your ring to the airport to claim for tax. They'll need to see the ring physically for proof.

Is it me or do I seem something off with the picture? the dot dot part of the design looks very uneven, especially at the oval shape part
 

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Yup the sales person replied with a SMS last night. Followed by a call to myself (unintentionally) which i pick up and I heard him complaining about me asking for prices. When he heard my voice I think he realized he called the wrong person and pretended to be not able to hear my voice and then put down e phone. Subsequently he called me again but I couldn't be bothered to answer.

I am quite appalled by this behavior and quite disgusted. I think he just lost it totally.

Damage control probably, this morning he SMS me telling me two diamonds are being released from reservation and the next shipment will have something close to what I want in by 2nd wk of feb. initially he said next shipment may take months. Earliest is march.

If only this was done right from the start with the proper mindset that clients have the right to choose.

*shakes head*

Who is the sales person? I thought JP's service is always the best.
 

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0.57 G VS1

Dear all,

please assist me to compare the following 2 diamonds. This is the first, a 0.57 G VS1.
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0.54 F VS1

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Assuming both about the same price. Appreciate comments on which is the better buy and the reasons, so that i can learn from your inputs as well.

Thanks!
 
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actual054fvs1gia6132395.jpg

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Assuming both about the same price. Appreciate comments on which is the better buy and the reasons, so that i get more "educated" on this topic as well.

Thanks!

Assuming both are the same price, I will pick this one (0.54 F VS1). The scope pictures looks the same to me and this one is a color higher. Although it's 0.03 carat smaller compared to the 0.57 G VS1, I doubt you can see a difference in the size... Whereas for color, my girlfriend told me she could see a F and G color difference, although I couldn't.. If you can't see the size difference, might as well go for the better color since its the same price.
 

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Assuming both are the same price, I will pick this one (0.54 F VS1). The scope pictures looks the same to me and this one is a color higher. Although it's 0.03 carat smaller compared to the 0.57 G VS1, I doubt you can see a difference in the size... Whereas for color, my girlfriend told me she could see a F and G color difference, although I couldn't.. If you can't see the size difference, might as well go for the better color since its the same price.

Thanks. I noticed that the table is smaller at 53% for the 0.54 compared to 55% for the 0.57. Any issue on the table %? Based on bro des's previous reply that a super ideal cut table range from 55% to 57%.

However the girdle is slightly thinner for the 0.54. Which is the better tradeoff between these 2 aspects(Besides Colour which I think F will be whiter, some girls can see!)
 

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Thanks. I noticed that the table is smaller at 53% for the 0.54 compared to 55% for the 0.57. Any issue on the table %? Based on bro des's previous reply that a super ideal cut table range from 55% to 57%.

It's not right to compared the % of a 57 facets with a modified round. You can't compare a 57 facets and 91 facets together and expect the same %. It's just like my Cushion Brellia. Even though it has 8 hearts and arrows, the % range would be different for a round diamond with 8 hearts and arrows.

I don't think the Super Ideal Cut is 55-57% too. It doesn't sound right.
 

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Thanks. I noticed that the table is smaller at 53% for the 0.54 compared to 55% for the 0.57. Any issue on the table %? Based on bro des's previous reply that a super ideal cut table range from 55% to 57%.

However the girdle is slightly thinner for the 0.54. Which is the better tradeoff between these 2 aspects(Besides Colour which I think F will be whiter, some girls can see!)


The table size that i mentioned refers to 57 facet H&A Super Ideal Cut. I'm not sure if it applies to Solasfera as well since Solasfera is a Modified Round Brilliant. To me i'm fine with the table size of 53%.

The diameter of 0.54 F VS1 is 5.25 - 5.27mm which is very close to 0.57 G VS1 of 5.30 - 5.34mm. I doubt you are able to see any size difference with this 0.06mm.

I don't like the girdle thickness of slightly thick to thick as i personally feel it is slightly too thick for a Solasfera even this is not a 57 H&A cut. For your info, GIA will not grade an 57 facet Round Brilliant as Excellent cut if the girdle is greater than slightly thick.

In term of color i believe there is a difference which can be observed especially those who are color sensitive. G has slight yellow tint. I would definitely go for F if the price is not much difference.

I'm not sure if i see it correctly but i feel like 0.57 G VS1 is a bit off centre when i look at the arrow images.
 
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The table size that i mentioned refers to 57 facet H&A Super Ideal Cut. I'm not sure if it applies to Solasfera as well since Solasfera is a Modified Round Brilliant. To me i'm fine with the table size of 53%.

The diameter of 0.54 F VS1 is 5.25 - 5.27mm which is very close to 0.57 G VS1 of 5.30 - 5.34mm. I doubt you are able to see any size difference with this 0.06mm.

I don't like the girdle thickness of slightly thick to thick as i personally feel it is slightly too thick for a Super Ideal Cut diamond even this is not a 57 H&A cut. For your info, GIA will not grade an 57 facet Round Brilliant as Excellent cut if the girdle is greater than slightly thick.

In term of color i believe there is a difference which can be observed especially those who are color sensitive. G has slight yellow tint. I would definitely go for F if the price is not much difference.

I'm not sure if i see it correctly but i feel like 0.57 G VS1 is a bit off centre when i look at the arrow images.


I learnt something new again! haha but you are right on the diameter, 0.06mm hardly noticeable. just the psychological feeling that one loses 0.03 carat.

i think the pictures taken on the 0.57 slightly slanted too. haha i saw the actual scopes not tilted to one side
 

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It's not right to compared the % of a 57 facets with a modified round. You can't compare a 57 facets and 91 facets together and expect the same %. It's just like my Cushion Brellia. Even though it has 8 hearts and arrows, the % range would be different for a round diamond with 8 hearts and arrows.

I don't think the Super Ideal Cut is 55-57% too. It doesn't sound right.

Let me clarify again the proportion that i mentioned is for Super Ideal Cut Round Brilliant. I agreed it may not apply to Solasfera.

But the table size of Super Ideal Cut is definitely 55 - 57%. The Ideal Cut will not be as strict as Super Ideal and the range is 53 - 59%.

"I don't think the Super Ideal Cut is 55-57% too. It doesn't sound right"

If you dont think this is correct, may i know what is the range of table for Super Ideal Cut?


See the blog from DawnMin

55-57% Table
59-62% Depth
33-35 Crown angle
40.6-41 Pavillion Angle

The Diamond Dictionary: The Super Ideal Cut Diamond
 
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You can't analyze a solasfera the way you do a 57 facet diamond to be honest, other than the color clarity and carat size comparison.

For example, some modified diamonds have their girdles thicker for a reason, some modified round have their table smaller or bigger to compensate for light return/contrast because of the way it is designed :s12:

For all we know, a 53% table size on a solasfera may actually look nicer than ideally say 56% because of the way it is designed

but since we don't know that, go with what appeals to you via your eyes
 

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You can't analyze a solasfera the way you do a 57 facet diamond to be honest, other than the color clarity and carat size comparison.

For example, some modified diamonds have their girdles thicker for a reason, some modified round have their table smaller or bigger to compensate for light return/contrast because of the way it is designed :s12:

For all we know, a 53% table size on a solasfera may actually look nicer than ideally say 56% because of the way it is designed

but since we don't know that, go with what appeals to you via your eyes

Fully agreed...:)
 

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Can i ask how much are u quoted for the 0.54 F vs 1 solasfera ? I got my 0.55 F VS1 Solasfera too maybe can share share haha :D
 
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