Proposal Ring - Part 2

[Grizz.P]

Hello folks,

i'm torn between choosing between the two from JP below and would need your expert views on this. Just wanna get the biggest bang for my bucks as this is one of my biggest commitment

1) 1.02 / G / VS2 / 3Ex / Super Ideal Cut
6.51 - 6.52 x 3.95mm
Cut - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Flurorenscene - None

HCA:
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread: Very Good

Score: 1.1

Damage: $14,500


2)1.02 / G / VS2 / 3Ex / Super Ideal Cut
6.44 - 6.46 x 4.00mm
Cut - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Flurorenscene - None

HCA:
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Very Good
Spread: Very Good

Score: 1.4

Damage: $11,400

I like to attached the scope images and the cert for the bros to view but not sure how to upload them

I have 3 other options as below but without the specs

1.00 F VS2 (Triple Excellent)
$12,600

0.90 E VS2 (Super Ideal Round)
Price: $10,500 (inc GST)

0.84 G VS2 (Super Ideal Round)
Price: $8600 (inc GST)


Any comments / thoughts is warmly appreciated!

I'm confused... How come the 2 Super Ideal cut 1.02 G VS2 got big price difference??

 

[Jackjack42]

Bling bling

Hello folks,

i'm torn between choosing between the two from JP below and would need your expert views on this. Just wanna get the biggest bang for my bucks as this is one of my biggest commitment

1) 1.02 / G / VS2 / 3Ex / Super Ideal Cut
6.51 - 6.52 x 3.95mm
Cut - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Flurorenscene - None

Depth - 60.6 %
Table - 58 %
Crown Angle - 34.0°
Crown Height- 14.0%
Pavilion Angle - 40.8°
Pavilion Depth - 43.0%
Star Length - 50%
Lower Half- 80%
Girdle - Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet - None

HCA:
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread: Very Good

Score: 1.1

Damage: $14,500


2) 1.02 / G / VS2 / 3Ex / Ideal Cut
6.44 - 6.46 x 4.00mm
Cut - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Flurorenscene - None

Depth - 61.9 %
Table - 56 %
Crown Angle - 34.0°
Crown Height- 15.0%
Pavilion Angle - 41.0°
Pavilion Depth - 43.5%
Star Length - 50%
Lower Half- 80%
Girdle - Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet - None

HCA:
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Very Good
Spread: Very Good

Score: 1.4

Damage: $11,400

I like to attached the scope images and the cert for the bros to view but not sure how to upload them

I have 3 other options as below but without the specs

1.00 F VS2 (Triple Excellent)
$12,600

0.90 E VS2 (Super Ideal Round)
Price: $10,500 (inc GST)

0.84 G VS2 (Super Ideal Round)
Price: $8600 (inc GST)


Any comments / thoughts is warmly appreciated!

 

[Jackjack42]

Sorry bro, #2 is an ideal cut. I updated with more details. your comments are welcome!!

 

[Grizz.P]

Sorry bro, #2 is an ideal cut. I updated with more details. your comments are welcome!!

Ah.. No wonder. Haha. Tough choice bro. The price range is 8-14k.. That's pretty wide.. If you going for less than 1ct, the 0.84 G VS2 looks good to me.. If you want to hit 1ct, I'll take either the 1.02 G VS2 Super Ideal or Ideal.. I'll pass the 1ct F VS2 if its those normal triple ex diamond. Though this is just my own view

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

Ah.. No wonder. Haha. Tough choice bro. The price range is 8-14k.. That's pretty wide.. If you going for less than 1ct, the 0.84 G VS2 looks good to me.. If you want to hit 1ct, I'll take either the 1.02 G VS2 Super Ideal or Ideal.. I'll pass the 1ct F VS2 if its those normal triple ex diamond. Though this is just my own view

I agree with bro Grizz. 0.84. If sub 1ct, 0.84 if 1ct, stone 1 or 2. If the F is at least ideal can consider as well. If normal triple ex, I think on no need consider either. If the scopes look good, I would personally prefer the ideal stone. To me, 3k/25% seems to be a pretty huge premium to pay for the same size... Check why its only an ideal. If its because hca, I would say its still a good choice. If cos of bad scope images then need to see how bad.

 

[huhu84]

just went to JP today to collect my ring....unfortunately they got the band thickness wrong. Not what i wanted when i ordered it.

Gotta wait for Casey who sold me the stone to come back tml.....hope can redo the ring just before the day when i plan to pop the GQ

 

[limited]

Hello folks,

i'm torn between choosing between the two from JP below and would need your expert views on this. Just wanna get the biggest bang for my bucks as this is one of my biggest commitment

1) 1.02 / G / VS2 / 3Ex / Super Ideal Cut
6.51 - 6.52 x 3.95mm
Cut - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Flurorenscene - None

Depth - 60.6 %
Table - 58 %
Crown Angle - 34.0°
Crown Height- 14.0%
Pavilion Angle - 40.8°
Pavilion Depth - 43.0%
Star Length - 50%
Lower Half- 80%
Girdle - Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet - None

HCA:
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Excellent
Spread: Very Good

Score: 1.1

Damage: $14,500


2) 1.02 / G / VS2 / 3Ex / Ideal Cut
6.44 - 6.46 x 4.00mm
Cut - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Flurorenscene - None

Depth - 61.9 %
Table - 56 %
Crown Angle - 34.0°
Crown Height- 15.0%
Pavilion Angle - 41.0°
Pavilion Depth - 43.5%
Star Length - 50%
Lower Half- 80%
Girdle - Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet - None

HCA:
Light Return: Excellent
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Very Good
Spread: Very Good

Score: 1.4

Damage: $11,400

I like to attached the scope images and the cert for the bros to view but not sure how to upload them

I have 3 other options as below but without the specs

1.00 F VS2 (Triple Excellent)
$12,600

0.90 E VS2 (Super Ideal Round)
Price: $10,500 (inc GST)

0.84 G VS2 (Super Ideal Round)
Price: $8600 (inc GST)


Any comments / thoughts is warmly appreciated!

Hahhaha! gave us all a scare. I think a lot of people would have rushed down to JP to get their diamond replaced with a 1ct at 11.4k! hahah I think like some bro's who commented, without a scope pictures most can only comment on the HCA score. And i think its decent for the 2 of the 1ct ones. (i must say the 1.02ct super ideal will have a damn nice scope image based on the dimensions. But its 14.3k money may be better spent elsewhere.) For the 3 others, we'll probably need some idea on the dimensions and the scope to comment further. But price wise, seem to be okay!

But if u want biggest bang for your buck, and the misses doesnt have any constraints placed on you, like the rest of the bros, price wise, 0.84 looks the best. But if you need to hit the 1ct, I'd say go with the ideal one (but i must caution, based on a good gem craftsmen cut, the ideal cut isnt all that ideal. the BP angle too steep, the depth too deep may not turn out that well. but then again its relative to the super ideal of a 60.x% - 61.x% dept and a 40.75deg angle)

just went to JP today to collect my ring....unfortunately they got the band thickness wrong. Not what i wanted when i ordered it.

Gotta wait for Casey who sold me the stone to come back tml.....hope can redo the ring just before the day when i plan to pop the GQ

They may need to redo the whole ring again, that means another 4-6wks. I hope they can surprise you with superb service! =] All the best bro!

 

[huhu84]

They may need to redo the whole ring again, that means another 4-6wks. I hope they can surprise you with superb service! =] All the best bro!

problem is less than 4 weeks to my planned date to pop the GQ....

 

[limited]

Perhaps you can ask again for assurance from JP? They might be able to rush it out. =]

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

@limited

41 too steep and 61.9 too deep? Wah... Very high standards. Hahaha. Perhaps you'd like to share what range of proportions you consider to be ideal (ca/pa/table/depth/etc) seems to be very tight. Hahaha..

Not sure what is bp... I think you mean pavilion angle? Sorry if I'm wrong.

 

[huhu84]

Perhaps you can ask again for assurance from JP? They might be able to rush it out. =]

yeah....Jann followed up on this matter. Hope to get the ring asap

Needa go down confirm the details to avoid any more mistakes

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

yeah....Jann followed up on this matter. Hope to get the ring asap

Needa go down confirm the details to avoid any more mistakes

Other then the width no other issues spotted right ? Should be no problem one ! Jia you and Good luck with your ring and your GQ !

 

[huhu84]

have to admit JP service is 2 thumbs up. Went there to confirm the adjustment and i received the 3D image of the design in one hours time.

 

[Tiggerhappy]

Hi, I just bought a ring from JP. The specs are as follows:


ROUND BRILLIANT

Measurements 5.49 - 5.52 x 3.40 mm
Carat Weight 0.63 carat
Color Grade E
Clarity Grade VS2
Cut Grade Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth 61.7 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet None
FINISH

Polish Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
FLUORESCENCE

Fluorescence None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Clarity Characteristics Crystal


I can see some shadows in the scope, but David says he will try cleaning the diamond before sending me the scope pictures. He says since its vs2 it's basically eye clean. And will not affect the diamond. True?

And hope to get some comments about this diamond too. Thanks

I just received my scope pictures. Can you help to take a look if its ok?

Unable to post pictures, so pasting the tinyurl link instead.
tinyurl.com/nfdhdta
tinyurl.com/php2vxk
tinyurl.com/phqs9pm
tinyurl.com/nr487d6

Thanks in advanced

 

[Draculav]

I just received my scope pictures. Can you help to take a look if its ok?

Unable to post pictures, so pasting the tinyurl link instead.
tinyurl.com/nfdhdta
tinyurl.com/php2vxk
tinyurl.com/phqs9pm
tinyurl.com/nr487d6

Thanks in advanced

Help you upload
The pictures are very nice.. especially the hearts

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

I just received my scope pictures. Can you help to take a look if its ok?

Unable to post pictures, so pasting the tinyurl link instead.
tinyurl.com/nfdhdta
tinyurl.com/php2vxk
tinyurl.com/phqs9pm
tinyurl.com/nr487d6

Thanks in advanced

The images are ok. No worries about the crystal. It seems small enough that it should be eye clean from the top under normal viewing conditions.

 

[limited]

@limited

41 too steep and 61.9 too deep? Wah... Very high standards. Hahaha. Perhaps you'd like to share what range of proportions you consider to be ideal (ca/pa/table/depth/etc) seems to be very tight. Hahaha..

Not sure what is bp... I think you mean pavilion angle? Sorry if I'm wrong.

BP, Bottom Pavilion! haha. althought Pavilion means the bottom part already lol.

Just my opinion, with a table of 55-57%, Pavilion Angle between 40.6 - 40.8, Crown angle 34 -34.8. Depth 60 - 62. But personally i think 62 a bit too deep. hahah!

anyway for people who just started reading the forum, don't start taking my values as the gospel truth. haha and tell JP got this member say this and that, i don't sell diamonds for a living.

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

BP, Bottom Pavilion! haha. althought Pavilion means the bottom part already lol.

Just my opinion, with a table of 55-57%, Pavilion Angle between 40.6 - 40.8, Crown angle 34 -34.8. Depth 60 - 62. But personally i think 62 a bit too deep. hahah!

anyway for people who just started reading the forum, don't start taking my values as the gospel truth. haha and tell JP got this member say this and that, i don't sell diamonds for a living.

No problem, just wondering only. Hahaha. People normally set a range just to make it easier to find, nothing wrong with your values. Hahaha ! Look for less then 62 no problem la. Your numbers seem to indicate you want a bigger spread for the weight and thats perfectly reasonable. Smaller ranges just mean that will have less choices and must find longer to get your dream stone lor. Important is that you know what you want, so when you get it you'll be happy with it Cheers and thanks for the explaining !

 

[kendrick272]

Guys, i went to JP as well.

After some time, i eyeing on this particular Solasfera cut, 10 hearts and arrows.

1) 0.71ct D
2) D color
3) VS1

Measurements: 5.74 - 5.78 x 3.57mm
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Total Depth: 62%
Table Size: 54%
Crown Angle: 34.6%
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%


Can give me some opinions? I see the discussions, depth cannot more then 62%. Whats all this about

 

[Grizz.P]

Guys, i went to JP as well.

After some time, i eyeing on this particular Solasfera cut, 10 hearts and arrows.

1) 0.71ct D
2) D color
3) VS1

Measurements: 5.74 - 5.78 x 3.57mm
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Total Depth: 62%
Table Size: 54%
Crown Angle: 34.6%
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%


Damage $9500 w/o settings.

Can give me some opinions? I see the discussions, depth cannot more then 62%. Whats all this about

A few bros here got the Solasfera too.. More bling

If the depth is more than 62%, the diamond is cut too long.. This will cause carat wastage and the diamond may look smaller from the top view. The 62% rule is for the normal 57 facets diamond. The Solasfera is a different type of diamond. So the 62% rule doesn't apply for it.