Proposal Ring - Part 2

[jaychou2013]

got the diamond yesterday..
is proposal ring supposed to be worn on middle or ring finger?

 

[maximusw0109]

Is rose gold popular for proposal ring? Any pros and cons?

Pretty much set on this custom design but thinking if I should make it in rose or white gold. I'm leaning more to the rose gold.. it looks visually nicer to me and adds abit of contrast. Though I see more of you guys here opt for white gold..

They helped me super impose the ring on my gf's hand that I secretly took
Difference is only in the metal color.. Any opinion?

 

[d3n]

Is rose gold popular for proposal ring? Any pros and cons?

Pretty much set on this custom design but thinking if I should make it in rose or white gold. I'm leaning more to the rose gold.. it looks visually nicer to me and adds abit of contrast. Though I see more of you guys here opt for white gold..

They helped me super impose the ring on my gf's hand that I secretly took
Difference is only in the metal color.. Any opinion?

white gold safer... not all gals like rose gold one

 

[ses009]

I'd prefer rose gold on fancy rings/WB. White gold for solitaire more classic. Btw, is the superimposed ring diamond similar size to your actual one? So big haha.

 

[ses009]

got the diamond yesterday..
is proposal ring supposed to be worn on middle or ring finger?

Ring finger.

 

[fabiaN__]

Is rose gold popular for proposal ring? Any pros and cons?

Pretty much set on this custom design but thinking if I should make it in rose or white gold. I'm leaning more to the rose gold.. it looks visually nicer to me and adds abit of contrast. Though I see more of you guys here opt for white gold..

They helped me super impose the ring on my gf's hand that I secretly took
Difference is only in the metal color.. Any opinion?

white gold is better, IMO... and we picked the same setting! omg. but mine's a single claw instead of double...

mind sharing the specs of the rock?

 

[jaychou2013]

Ring finger.

thanks!

 

[jaychou2013]

Is rose gold popular for proposal ring? Any pros and cons?

Pretty much set on this custom design but thinking if I should make it in rose or white gold. I'm leaning more to the rose gold.. it looks visually nicer to me and adds abit of contrast. Though I see more of you guys here opt for white gold..

They helped me super impose the ring on my gf's hand that I secretly took
Difference is only in the metal color.. Any opinion?

not all girls like rose gold. but never heard of any girls hating white gold. so I will choose white gold to be safe

 

[maximusw0109]

thanks for all the assurance on white gold!
I am still going to take the leap of faith and go for rose gold
gotten some "guidelines" from her bestie that she likes rose gold..should have figured it out because she has been wearing rose gold color watches

 

[azeusa]

rose gold

just happened on this thread while searching on something else...

white gold is classic. yellow gold is traditional ("old-fashioned") but among some western younger hip sets it's coming back as an old-new "cool" colour for solitaires

rose gold is beautiful and will work well in a romantic antique-type setting. there are 100 year-old rose gold rings that look fantastic. however, due to the higher copper content, it can tarnish easier (esp in our very humid climate) and may need more frequent polishing

in any case, your ring looks superb!

congrats again

 

[supercrip]

have been following the thread for sometime, and decided to take the plunge by starting to look ard while based in London. I think the biggest difference between London and SG, is that I have found any jeweller who's into the hearts and arrows cut - have to try harder

Wanted to hear forumers thoughts about the stuff i looked at. haven been able to get aset scope images for this one but wanted to know if the price's reasonable/comparable to SG/JP?

GIA5156034986 - 0.61ct F, VS2, 3Ex

Depth - 60.5%
Table - 59%
Crown Angle - 34.5
Pavillion angle - 40.8
Fluorescene : none

quoted at £2600 for diamond and around £550 for 18k white gold setting

but there's 20% VAT refund

looked at it through the light scope and the H&A were quite well formed with minimal light leakages.

Is the price reasonable after the VAT refund, i.e. 3150 - 20% = £2520

 

[Grizz.P]

have been following the thread for sometime, and decided to take the plunge by starting to look ard while based in London. I think the biggest difference between London and SG, is that I have found any jeweller who's into the hearts and arrows cut - have to try harder

Wanted to hear forumers thoughts about the stuff i looked at. haven been able to get aset scope images for this one but wanted to know if the price's reasonable/comparable to SG/JP?

GIA5156034986 - 0.61ct F, VS2, 3Ex

Depth - 60.5%
Table - 59%
Crown Angle - 34.5
Pavillion angle - 40.8
Fluorescene : none

quoted at £2600 for diamond and around £550 for 18k white gold setting

but there's 20% VAT refund

looked at it through the light scope and the H&A were quite well formed with minimal light leakages.

Is the price reasonable after the VAT refund, i.e. 3150 - 20% = £2520

After your VAT refund, it's about the same or even higher compared to JP's super ideal. The quality will be more assured with JP. Their setting is also cheaper at SGD 550.

Btw, you won't get your full 20% VAT refund. You'll only get back about 17%. Made that mistake when buying a watch in Europe

 

[azeusa]

in no way a diamond expert but some of my friends are "prosumers"


do you have the full specs - L x W x D, crown height, pavilion depth?

the proportions are close to a 60/60 stone - you get more brilliance/ appearance of a larger stone but MAY sacrifice fire as well as scintillation.

I know for an engagement most guys here aim for high color (colourless - D/E/F) but in reality for stones <1 carat a good cut, under most lighting conditions, trumps all other "C"s.

One near-tai tai I vaguely know loves her rocks, and I replicate here her philosophy

1. Set a carat weight - which carat will you NOT go below?
2. Set a budget
3. Within the budget, look for the best cut. AGS0 is more stringent than GIA Ex. Do not settle for anything other than AGS or GIA. If GIA Ex - evaluate the proportions critically.
- H&A, being a subset of an ideally cut stone, is fantastic if you are into it. However, bear in mind that non-H&A stones can be as expertly cut and look equally spectacular. One usually pays a (highish) premium for H&A since retailers set the game.
- For romantic purposes, H&A are nice. But you will NOT see hearts & arrows in your diamond once set into a ring. H&A were a cute Japanese phenomenon that took off hugely (thanks in part to shrewd marketing).
4. Colour - some girls are more colour-sensitive than others, and can detect a faint yellow tinge where guys can't. Many H I J stones face up perfectly white - may only disclose a very faint yellow if viewed at an angle or if set beside a colourless stone. Some in fact prefer a warm white (HIJ) over icy white (DEF). In a (ring) setting, the superb light effects due to a good cut will supersede usual perception of colour.
5. VS2 and above, eye-clean SIs.

This way she maximises the carat weight for each purchase, while ensuring the stone performs well in most social situations - Big (carat) and Flashy (cut) - without overpaying for barely noticeable "C"s.

But in the end nothing beats sighting the stone - having it in your hand and turning it around.

IMO Singapore stones aren't the most competitively priced in the world, but I repeat I'm not an expert. Anything bought from a London jeweller's is equally eye-wateringly priced anyway.

 

[chottohen]

A JP round diamond 1.01, F, VS2 for 14.8k is this fine?

 

[supercrip]

ah. well, i have a few other appointments next week at some other jewellers at hatton garden to look see look see. The place that offered me the diamond, i would consider to be one of the higher priced jewellers, but i dun sound particularly convinced by their sales pitch.

dimensions here.
Measurements 5.46 - 5.48 x 3.31 mm
Carat Weight 0.61 carat
Color Grade F
Clarity Grade VS2
Cut Grade Excellent

PROPORTIONS
Depth 60.5 %
Table 59 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 14.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet None

After your VAT refund, it's about the same or even higher compared to JP's super ideal. The quality will be more assured with JP. Their setting is also cheaper at SGD 550.

Btw, you won't get your full 20% VAT refund. You'll only get back about 17%. Made that mistake when buying a watch in Europe

 

[azeusa]

The place that offered me the diamond, i would consider to be one of the higher priced jewellers, but i dun sound particularly convinced by their sales pitch.

not convinced - walk away - you did right man. wallet stays fat for now!

dimensions here.
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table a bit bigger than some would like. other parameters ok. remember you mentioning that the light scope was fine. will likely be a nice big bright stone with ok light effects IMHO - but expensive! found some similar stones online that cost quite a bit less, but not everyone's comfortable with buying diamonds online, which is understandable.

 

[Grizz.P]

ah. well, i have a few other appointments next week at some other jewellers at hatton garden to look see look see. The place that offered me the diamond, i would consider to be one of the higher priced jewellers, but i dun sound particularly convinced by their sales pitch.

dimensions here.
Measurements 5.46 - 5.48 x 3.31 mm
Carat Weight 0.61 carat
Color Grade F
Clarity Grade VS2
Cut Grade Excellent

PROPORTIONS
Depth 60.5 %
Table 59 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 14.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet None

Good luck! Remember to analyze through all the scope if possible. Especially the ASET and Hearts/Arrows scope.

 

[supercrip]

yup. i found similar specs for a 0.7 stone, in another online store which has a physical presence in Hatton Garden so will go take a sneak peek there. Thing is they are not able to give me ASET / Light Scope prints like JP, so can't seek bros' advise here haha

table a bit bigger than some would like. other parameters ok. remember you mentioning that the light scope was fine. will likely be a nice big bright stone with ok light effects IMHO - but expensive! found some similar stones online that cost quite a bit less, but not everyone's comfortable with buying diamonds online, which is understandable.

haha thanks! will keep you guys updated =) If i'm not comfortable will come back for JP lol

Good luck! Remember to analyze through all the scope if possible. Especially the ASET and Hearts/Arrows scope.

 

[jaychou2013]

A JP round diamond 1.01, F, VS2 for 14.8k is this fine?

JP pricing are pretty reasonable. however, if it's me, I would wait for a 0.9x instead of getting a 1.01. becos size difference is not significant, but price may be.

 

[happywhappy2003]

Hi need some advice from experts here.
0.65 E VVS2 Trip ex. GIA. HCA SCORE 1.9. $5k
0.8 E SI1 trip ex GIA. HCA 0.5. $6.6k
1.09 L SI1 trip ex GIA. HCA not counted.$ 7k
Withour setting

are these diamond overpriced?