Proposal Ring - Part 2

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moi usually tend to stay away from family friend's related business. easier to tio bluff because they know you trust them, and also moi will feel obliged to buy from them and this will cloud my judgement. referring to things in general and not diamonds only :s13:

Yea.. I bought from my uncle's relative. Didn't ask much that time cos I trusted he will give me a good one and good price. Summore he said this was an Ideal cut diamond.. sian. It's quite some time already.. not like I can go back to ask him about it.. it'll be paiseh for my uncle osso.

how is ur ring vs their?

which one sparkle more?

I got their super ideal cut to make earrings.. they are much smaller compared to my diamond ring but looked much better. The earrings I got was G colors and my diamond ring was E Color. The G color diamonds still looked whiter and brighter!
Quite off.. earrings diamond outshine the diamond ring.. haiz.. Maybe I save for few more years then upgrade the diamond ring to a better cut next time.
 

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Ready to purchase my wedding bands. How many % discount can I expect on 'retail'?

Also just on another note, how many of your fiancée insisted on a diamond studded band? Not that can't afford, but I think the e-ring is bling enough and wearing a bling band feels a bit over, not to mention attracting unnecessary attention.

My ideal band would be the Tiffany plain mill grain (which sadly doesn't come with diamonds though I'm sure JP could customise one and for cheaper too)
 

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My bf and I went down to JP today to clarify some doubts. We made an appointment with Samuel but was served by Casey instead. We originally wanted to book an appointment with Casey but he was fully booked, so very happy that he served us. Casey was super clear and helpful with his explanations. Below are my diamond's scopes. :D :D

Am thinking of going back to them for our wedding bands.

GX! Met Casey before. nice chap
 

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Went to JP to buy earrings and got a long education about diamonds.

JP folks helped clean my ring which I bought from a family friend jeweller...
I borrowed their ASET scope to see my ring.. How come its all green sia? siann

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That's some major light leakages going on man. Maybe you can try to upgrade with him for a better diamond? Then use the HCA and scopes to pick a better one.
 

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Any comments on GIA 1179204103? How much will you pay for it?
it is 1.04ct G VS2.
Thanks in advance.

Numbers are good... though star facets are abit too small at 45%. The normal ones are 50%+

You got the scopes? You can't tell if the diamond is truly H&A by the numbers alone. Non-H&A diamond can have great numbers too.
 

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Hi guys, got a question I've been wondering... should I go shop for the proposal ring together with my gf?

Would it be more of a pro or con?

She is someone who wants surprises but at the same time I'm afraid I will screw up the type of ring she wants/prefers...

Need some sincere advice...
 

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help.

Hi All,

Please kindly advice which is better..

1. got quoted around 8K for ideal cut 0.76 D vs1 from JP (AGS)

2. Around 7K for below specs;
GIA 5186472989
GIA 1179656906
Thanks!
 
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Ready to purchase my wedding bands. How many % discount can I expect on 'retail'?

Also just on another note, how many of your fiancée insisted on a diamond studded band? Not that can't afford, but I think the e-ring is bling enough and wearing a bling band feels a bit over, not to mention attracting unnecessary attention.

My ideal band would be the Tiffany plain mill grain (which sadly doesn't come with diamonds though I'm sure JP could customise one and for cheaper too)

for tiffany, there is no discount.

u can do a replica with JP or any jewellers.
 

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for tiffany, there is no discount.

u can do a replica with JP or any jewellers.

Ya, I'm referring to JP. I bought my e ring there and was told there would be a discount when I purchase the bands,
 

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Ya, I'm referring to JP. I bought my e ring there and was told there would be a discount when I purchase the bands,

when i purchased my rings that was what was mentioned too. But i have my reservations on that.
 

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Hi guys, got a question I've been wondering... should I go shop for the proposal ring together with my gf?

Would it be more of a pro or con?

She is someone who wants surprises but at the same time I'm afraid I will screw up the type of ring she wants/prefers...

Need some sincere advice...

as a girl, i prefer to choose my own proposal ring as i am not sure of my bf's taste plus the fact that i am the one who is wearing the ring. so it's better for me to decide.

what's your budget? i think a diamond between 0.6 - 0.8 carat would be a safe bet, E-F colour. it also depends on what kind of cuts she like, cushion, round.

another alternative is make an appointment with JP and talk to them. maybe you can decide on a ring, pay the deposit and get them to do a 3D rendering which you can show your gf before confirming it. it's kind of a surprise too. :)
 
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another alternative is make an appointment with JP and talk to them. maybe you can decide on a ring, pay the deposit and get them to do a 3D rendering which you can show your gf before confirming it. it's kind of a surprise too. :)

isn't that like proposal with a 3d rendering? =:p
 

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as a girl, i prefer to choose my own proposal ring as i am not sure of my bf's taste plus the fact that i am the one who is wearing the ring. so it's better for me to decide.

what's your budget? i think a diamond between 0.6 - 0.8 carat would be a safe bet, E-F colour. it also depends on what kind of cuts she like, cushion, round.

another alternative is make an appointment with JP and talk to them. maybe you can decide on a ring, pay the deposit and get them to do a 3D rendering which you can show your gf before confirming it. it's kind of a surprise too. :)

not every guy can afford a 0.6-0.8 carat diamond. just saying :s13:
 

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Hi guys, got a question I've been wondering... should I go shop for the proposal ring together with my gf?

Would it be more of a pro or con?

She is someone who wants surprises but at the same time I'm afraid I will screw up the type of ring she wants/prefers...

Need some sincere advice...

Bro perhaps I offer you a different perspective. It is true that choosing a design that they love is quite preferable.

However I do feel that the element of surprise and your decision will matter even more.

Once she knows the design, it's like waiting for the proposal. I personally find that to be pretty boring.

That being said a good compromise is to know her preferences. Say on types of designs, shape of diamond, color of ring. That is okay but the design will be truly special because you chose it.

A woman can select a design that she loves. But your involvement makes it even more unique. Even if she finds the design to be so so bad. It's unique because you did your very best in wanting to please her.

It'll be a ring you chose. No one can replace that. Whereas she can choose any design she wants anyday.

The element of surprise is key imho. Rmb can compromise to know preferences. Color, shape, style. But to know how it'll look like, it's just waiting for proposal. No fun.

In NS when you are the enemy force. It's pretty lame because you know how the other side is going to attack. Timing can be an element of surprise but the strategy, action on objective is the real deal.

Different strokes for different folks.

To put it in a even more drastic comparison. Say one day you guys broke up. If she chose a design to her she can wear it happily because it's what she likes. It's another accessory. But if you chose the end design, your presence, sentiment is even more apparent and she will think of you, however ugly the design is.

Oh yes good to bring her down to get proper ring size. I find it a good compromise to know her preference but leave the end design to imagination and your unique sentiment in it.

Afterall assuming you apply BTO, it's just a matter of time for proposal. But how it turns out to be is key.

Liken the scenario to giving people money for presents. You can give the same amount of money ask her buy her own present or you can spend time and effort to surprise her.

She choose like no effort. Just ok you like? My pocket can tahan then get.

Imho. I understand my opinion is quite different but to each his own ya.

Regarding getting the ring, I recommend JannPaul. You can see their design or better you can go find any design and get them to customize.

I do not believe in paying just for the brand. Ok I'm an average person only so have limits I rather get a good diamond than a soso one but good brand. A great example is someone got a 0.4 E VS2 Tiffany and Co for 8.6k but in the end bought a second from JannPaul 0.62 F VS2 4.9k. The JannPaul looks more stunning and even whiter hands down. That's the ultimate test. The little blue box or a superior diamond with a custom design.

Most important is to set your budget. You want to please her but rmb you have house have reno have kids maybe.

I find cut, color, carat and clarity to be a good progression of importance. I put carat third because a 0.1 or 0.0x will make not much difference rly. Your budget would have determined most of the carat range alr so moving 0.0x is pretty much just in our heads.

From a fellow bro.
 
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not every guy can afford a 0.6-0.8 carat diamond. just saying :s13:

lol.. i saw a lot of guys buying 1.0x carat here leh..

from a girl's perspective, size does matter unless she has super tiny fingers. when i just got my diamond, most of my friends were asking about the size. unfortunately, girls can be that superficial. but i do agree that one shouldn't bust his budget just to get that special ring.

also, bear in mind that a 0.4x carat ring with halo setting will make the diamond look like 0.6x.

ultimately, it all boils down to how well you know your gf, whether she wants something simple/conventional or something complicated/attention grabbing. then again, girls being girls, it's hard to make up our minds. :s13:

or maybe you could seek your gf's close friends/sisters' opinions?
 
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not every guy can afford a 0.6-0.8 carat diamond. just saying :s13:

Very true leh.

Don't forget what's most important is your fiancee's preference and lifestyle.

Will she wear it daily? Is she the flashy type? Even if her friends compare will she feel inferior just because hers is not bigger than theirs?

I believe if you've an understanding gf/fiancee that have planned your lives together, she'll really appreciate if you spent 100% of your effort and capacity rather than 200% just not to lose out and maybe even affect your lifestyle.

These are fundamental values and mindsets. Everyone is different. To some a Toyota is good enough. To others need Audi. Some Rolls Royce.

The subjective whole is more important than the objective parts that make up the whole.

No one is right or wrong. Sincerity and love is key.

Most importantly is for the BOTH of YOU to be happy. You'll spend the rest of your lives together. Friends, colleagues can come and go.
 

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Just made a deposit for a Super Ideal diamond at JP..

AGS: 104074257032
Weight: 0.531

Was able to see the inclusion under the ASET and Ideal scope but I think it is not that big an issue.. or is it? :s22:

Hehe ask yourself apart from JannPaul and posting pics here, when worn out can you see inclusions?

I find JannPaul to be very honest. Clarity once VS2 and better is unnoticeable with naked eye. Even SI.

Better to spend on size and cut.
 

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Oops.. keep looking at previous pages' Ideal scopes.. actually all the ASET scopes also got a bit of green. :s13:

So how are my scopes? Just like what one would expect from a JP Super Ideal?

mine is a VS2 also. was quite bothered about it initially, but when we went down to JP and requested to see the inclusion on the diamond, i couldn't see anything through the 10x magnification.

Casey explained that sometimes the inclusion could be near the sides of the diamond and only using 40x magnification then you can see it clearly. But at 40x magnification, you will also see dust and lint unless you are in laboratory environment.
 

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Here is another vote of confidence for jannpaul. I can say honestly I feel they are one of the best diamond jewellers in singapore in terms of how much they understand about diamonds, as well as service.

most of the diamond jewellers in singapore have no idea what is HCA or cut proportions, and just tell you GIA tripe excellent is the best, which is actually rubbish. GIA has quite lax standards so within the GIA triple excellent range, there can be good and there can be bad diamonds too.

In terms of price, yes, when you go past eg. taka jewellery and see them advertising 1carat for 5k, you will think wa jannpaul is too ex. but again, the quality of the 1ct at jannpaul will heaven and earth - dare i say heaven and hell - compared to the other one. the thing i like about jp is that they give you quality stuff. value for money. when buying diamond cannot just think about the size, in that case, just go to swarovski and buy a 10ct glass

i self admit i am a difficult customer who likes to research every purchase i make. and i have asked more questions than the average customer. but jann and the team at jp have always been very helpful, polite and professional. the service standard i see is exceptional and i applaud them for that.

i bought a 0.9 carat super ideal from JP and I feel very happy with my diamond and can't wait for it to be ready!
 
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