Proposal Ring - Part 3

[hisdearqueen]

Guys can help me take a look to see any issues with this piece?

HCA 1.4

http://imgur.com/7oDgAH5

http://imgur.com/FQoDyFQ

http://imgur.com/d3ujW7r

http://imgur.com/hu5Se14

dunno if it bugs you, but the 5pm one like a bit dented in?

 

[hisdearqueen]

Sorry for spamming! I got some photos of my diamond on the ring casing. They put my diamond on top of the casing for me to see the with or without side diamond effect. Which one do you think is better on my hands?

P.S. its the same diamond in both photos. The diamond looks bigger in the one with side diamonds. It might be because that photo was more zoomed in

VERY nice! i prefer the solitaire on you now that i've seen it in pictures

 

[hisdearqueen]

Guys can help me take a look to see any issues with this piece?

HCA 1.4

http://imgur.com/7oDgAH5

http://imgur.com/FQoDyFQ

http://imgur.com/d3ujW7r

http://imgur.com/hu5Se14

http://imgur.com/a/P2ULa

I've circled it out, but that might be my picky eyes. My poor boyf said JP told him there "is no perfect diamond" after I gave him a bit of grief :3

 

[KinoChoco]

Sorry for spamming! I got some photos of my diamond on the ring casing. They put my diamond on top of the casing for me to see the with or without side diamond effect. Which one do you think is better on my hands?

P.S. its the same diamond in both photos. The diamond looks bigger in the one with side diamonds. It might be because that photo was more zoomed in

#like the one with the side diamonds, however, I find that heart prongs are big and not really a fan of it, perhaps u can request for a smaller sized heart prongs if you like it.

 

[bb_100]

Thanks guys for ur replies. That's rather unfortunate as I would have liked to have it ready before next month end.

Hey bro, I just came back from JannPaul after viewing my wax model. Jann the boss told me the shortest possible time from final design to finished product is 2 weeks. But the downside is that you can't have too many design revisions.

 

[missymousiee]

#like the one with the side diamonds, however, I find that heart prongs are big and not really a fan of it, perhaps u can request for a smaller sized heart prongs if you like it.

Oh, no. I'm not doing the heart shape prongs. If with side diamonds, I'm thinking of this design.

But JP didn't have this design in the shop and its hard for me to imagine the diamond on the ring. So they just took a empty casing with side diamonds and put my diamond on top for me to imagine it

 

[KinoChoco]

Oh, no. I'm not doing the heart shape prongs. If with side diamonds, I'm thinking of this design.

But JP didn't have this design in the shop and its hard for me to imagine the diamond on the ring. So they just took a empty casing with side diamonds and put my diamond on top for me to imagine it

Hmm, my personal preference will be taper the standard way where the band nearer to the diamond to be thinner instead of making it thicker, thinner band at the diamond area will make the diamond stand up more and appear bigger.

But it's my own preference la, haha, if you like this design then go ahead, what's most important is wearer like it

 

[tinkerella]

Sorry for spamming! I got some photos of my diamond on the ring casing. They put my diamond on top of the casing for me to see the with or without side diamond effect. Which one do you think is better on my hands?

P.S. its the same diamond in both photos. The diamond looks bigger in the one with side diamonds. It might be because that photo was more zoomed in

I vote for solitaire
It's classic and never goes out of style. + if you pair with eternity/half eternity wedding band it's super pretty. But i guess this sort of pairing is very common and mainstream also la.

If you want something more unique then your side diamonds setting with milgrain is definitely a better choice.

 

[missymousiee]

Hmm, my personal preference will be taper the standard way where the band nearer to the diamond to be thinner instead of making it thicker, thinner band at the diamond area will make the diamond stand up more and appear bigger.

But it's my own preference la, haha, if you like this design then go ahead, what's most important is wearer like it

I saw those too! They had those design on stock. I preferred the thicker one near the diamond becuase the small diamonds will be bigger

 

[missymousiee]

I vote for solitaire
It's classic and never goes out of style. + if you pair with eternity/half eternity wedding band it's super pretty. But i guess this sort of pairing is very common and mainstream also la.

If you want something more unique then your side diamonds setting with milgrain is definitely a better choice.

Thanks! I do like the milgrains. At first I was thinking of doing it plain with the milgrain but realise they only have them with side diamonds.

 

[Emolisher]

I saw those too! They had those design on stock. I preferred the thicker one near the diamond becuase the small diamonds will be bigger

Shouldn't it be opposite? When the band gets thinner, the diamond will appear larger ma

 

[Steven_T]

I've always adored side melee diamonds, so I'll vote that! But hehehe if it's a huge solitaire I think can let it stand out on its own

Do side diamonds help to make the solitaire diamond look bigger?

 

[Steven_T]

Just wanted to share my opinion regarding purchasing your diamonds at JannPaul.

For the same specs and cut quality (i.e. Ideal to Ideal), you are definitely paying a premium over at JannPaul. I didn't want to be a sucker, so I ended up doing abit more work.

As most of you guys would already know, JannPaul emphasize that even among the GIA triple excellent diamonds, there are the "good ones" and "less good ones - in terms of Cut. So during the presentation, I asked the salesperson if there was any way to determine which are the "Grade 1" triple excellent and which are the lower grade triple excellent diamonds, based on the written specs/information from paper certificates. He said "No". This was after we did all the visual inspection through the normal scope and Ideal Scope and the Hearts and Arrows scope.

But through my own research and testing, I found this to be untrue. You can definitely determine if "a diamond" will pass all of JannPaul's visual/scope inspection from the specs of a diamond written in the certificate.

The criteria range for Ideal Cuts, as some of you all may have already known, are more stringent than the GIA triple excellent grading. The range for the cut depth, Table width, Crown, crown angle etc, have a smaller tolerance for the ideal cuts. For example, in an Ideal cut, your Depth must be between 58.5 - 62.5.

I asked the above question to the JannPaul salesperson because I wanted to know if the only way to obtain their standard of an excellent diamond was to carry the Ideal Scope set around different shops and inspect them myself. But apparently, that is not the only way. You can first filter the good ones out based on the specs listed on the GIA certs.

I was also told JannPaul cut most of their diamonds themselves. On average, their mark up on Ideal cut diamonds are about 20% - 25% more than another diamond of an identical cut (which will also pass ALL the visual tests of JannPaul).

So I would conclude by saying, yes, their services are pretty good, but be expected to pay a price premium for a diamond with an identical performance.

For me, I went with the option of looking elsewhere for an "Ideal Cut" diamond, first filtering by looking at the GIA certificates, and visually checking through the Ideal scope those diamonds which pass the paper specs . I saved myself slightly over $1k.

Can you explain what do you mean by. Pass the Visual Tests ? I just started to hunt for my proposal ring and all these terminology are so confusing !

Also, would it be cheaper to buy online from overseas ?

 

[SushiBoy888]

Sharing my ring ring design Just confirmed it with JP. Now is the long wait for them to craft it for me

Word of advice to other bros. If you plan to customize your ring, its better to start early. They take 2 weeks to do the 3d render and you can continue to tweak and change to your liking. The more time you have, the more you can brainstorm for ideas and make changes.

 

[xxFyMxx]

http://imgur.com/a/P2ULa

I've circled it out, but that might be my picky eyes. My poor boyf said JP told him there "is no perfect diamond" after I gave him a bit of grief :3

Yea looks a little off, thanks for pointing out, not sure if it's symmetrical to the one at 10-11oclock.

 

[xxFyMxx]

Hey bro, I just came back from JannPaul after viewing my wax model. Jann the boss told me the shortest possible time from final design to finished product is 2 weeks. But the downside is that you can't have too many design revisions.

Thanks bro, I asked them and they said they still can do it, not sure if I would be able to get 3D or wax models in such short time though . Will have to follow up.

 

[Dyles]

Been busy preparing for proposal stuff and didn't check the forums.
Saw that there's a new "disagreement" issues between the bros here..

Actually I realised that KinoChoco had the tendency to jump into JP's defense whenever someone mentioned and says anything negative about JP. (i.e. even stuff like pricing). Happened to me and few others as well..

When I read Throwaway's msgs, seems to suggest that he only use HCA for filter (which we all know isn't complete enough) and his scopes (if he really has them). Give him the benefit of doubt that he have the scope, I think it isn't surprising if he managed to find one "ideal near to super ideal (that prob may just falll behind JP's super ideal)" diamond at 1k cheaper.. why not? I rmbed someone here mentioned he found an ideal that even JP staff cant tell diff against the super ideal.

In fact, even amongst the super ideal scopes shown here. I can nitpick on some.
for example, look at the diamond image, the contrast part (the black lines/arrows), beside some of them, there's a small black dot in most of the scopes uploaded here. (it'll appear in ideal scope and aset scope as well). Some better one's have very little (or smaller) "black dots" like these and some have more.
-I'm a JP customer and mine has 3 (which is already better than 90% of the scopes i see here)

The thing is, super ideal is still not perfect and perhaps to throwaway, his find was already super ideal to him. One thing I do agree is that if you really put in effort to go to shops to find and look at scopes, won't be surprising if u manage to find a "super ideal" grade diamond (with almost perfect hearts/arrow and little leakage) at a cheaper price than JP..

Anyway, I've collected my ring and felt that every dollar is well spent at JP for its service and quality.. they really made things easy for us and no need to spend the effort. but for those with a budget, can try to look around.. not 100% can find, but maybe something good enough with just slightly high leakage but much more affordable.

 

[KinoChoco]

Been busy preparing for proposal stuff and didn't check the forums.
Saw that there's a new "disagreement" issues between the bros here..

Actually I realised that KinoChoco had the tendency to jump into JP's defense whenever someone mentioned and says anything negative about JP. (i.e. even stuff like pricing). Happened to me and few others as well..

When I read Throwaway's msgs, seems to suggest that he only use HCA for filter (which we all know isn't complete enough) and his scopes (if he really has them). Give him the benefit of doubt that he have the scope, I think it isn't surprising if he managed to find one "ideal near to super ideal (that prob may just falll behind JP's super ideal)" diamond at 1k cheaper.. why not? I rmbed someone here mentioned he found an ideal that even JP staff cant tell diff against the super ideal.

In fact, even amongst the super ideal scopes shown here. I can nitpick on some.
for example, look at the diamond image, the contrast part (the black lines/arrows), beside some of them, there's a small black dot in most of the scopes uploaded here. (it'll appear in ideal scope and aset scope as well). Some better one's have very little (or smaller) "black dots" like these and some have more.
-I'm a JP customer and mine has 3 (which is already better than 90% of the scopes i see here)

The thing is, super ideal is still not perfect and perhaps to throwaway, his find was already super ideal to him. One thing I do agree is that if you really put in effort to go to shops to find and look at scopes, won't be surprising if u manage to find a "super ideal" grade diamond (with almost perfect hearts/arrow and little leakage) at a cheaper price than JP..

Anyway, I've collected my ring and felt that every dollar is well spent at JP for its service and quality.. they really made things easy for us and no need to spend the effort. but for those with a budget, can try to look around.. not 100% can find, but maybe something good enough with just slightly high leakage but much more affordable.

Of course I'm offended by idiots who claims their 'near super ideal' diamond to be the same level as super ideal and start spreading the words that it's cheaper and better to get those near super ideal diamonds, it's an insult to the people who actually get super ideal.

Near Super ideal and Super ideal are 2 different grade, of cuz its easy to find near Super ideal diamond at a cheaper rate than Super ideal - this I don't disagree, in fact you can easily get these online.

The problem with these people are that they started passing off their impression of near Super ideal being an Super ideal and started telling everyone who gotten an Super ideal that they overpaid. - anyway most of these people came here with an motive, eventually self promoting their own brand, at least that's what I remembered

Most of us here devoted alot of time and effort into finding the top graded diamond and at the lowest cost possible, if some guy started coming here saying we are overpaying at JP (he claims that we are paying 20%~ more?) and could find a much better deal elsewhere, it's better that he reveal the jeweller name so we could look into it to see whether it's true.

 

[bb_100]

I have no issues with people claiming that JannPaul's diamonds are a bit more expensive. This is sort of expected lar because they did all the hard work for their clients by hand picking only the tip top ones. Or maybe because I did not get their signature cuts so I am not #triggered by those claims haha.

But my problem with these people is that when we requested them to tell us where they got such a fantastic deal, they chose to play hide and seek with us. Even asking us to PM them if we are "sincere" to know more. WTF man.

 

[vintot]

Thanks bro, I asked them and they said they still can do it, not sure if I would be able to get 3D or wax models in such short time though . Will have to follow up.

are they creating wax model/3d rendering for everyone or only if you have some customization?