Proposal Ring - Part 3

[jadeites]

i have the report number, but i cant upload here
GIA report number:7223358878
0.42 carat
And my budget around 2k

How much was this diamond? Because it could be less than 2k or more than 2k. And does this include ring setting?

The price seems a bit fishy to me for a GIA 3EX diamond that scores 1 on the HCA tool. It must be the fluorescence that makes it cheaper. I would check the diamond in natural lighting to see if it is cloudy/hazy.

 

[jadeites]

Ok thanks! But how do I let you know the link? I cannot even PM you the links. Didn't know HWZ is so strict haha

Try putting a space in the middle of the link?

 

[1000smiles]

i have the report number, but i cant upload here
GIA report number:7223358878
0.42 carat
And my budget around 2k

It has fluorescence which I’ll avoid. There is always a risk in fluorescence that will make your diamond look dirty with the haziness.
Also it’s a SI1. I suggest to go minimum VS2. SI1 might now be eye clean. Plus it’s likely to have inclusions on the girdle that will affect the diamond’s structure integrity. If you sway sway bump your diamond ring, it can crack. Then your diamond will become worthless.

For a peace of mind, I suggest getter a better one. You can reduce the color grade, increase the clarity to VS2, and make sure the CUT is good by checking it with the scopes. You go for high color and then got fluorescence also no use. The fluorescence will counter off the high color.

 

[wusgnb]

How much was this diamond? Because it could be less than 2k or more than 2k. And does this include ring setting?

The price seems a bit fishy to me for a GIA 3EX diamond that scores 1 on the HCA tool. It must be the fluorescence that makes it cheaper. I would check the diamond in natural lighting to see if it is cloudy/hazy.

$1500 include ring setting,i try go more shop c have better mah

 

[wusgnb]

It has fluorescence which I’ll avoid. There is always a risk in fluorescence that will make your diamond look dirty with the haziness.
Also it’s a SI1. I suggest to go minimum VS2. SI1 might now be eye clean. Plus it’s likely to have inclusions on the girdle that will affect the diamond’s structure integrity. If you sway sway bump your diamond ring, it can crack. Then your diamond will become worthless.

For a peace of mind, I suggest getter a better one. You can reduce the color grade, increase the clarity to VS2, and make sure the CUT is good by checking it with the scopes. You go for high color and then got fluorescence also no use. The fluorescence will counter off the high color.

ok, thanks, i will try go find other shop....maybe budget probem

 

[wusgnb]

We can’t tell you if it’s good or bad without at least the GIA report number and you also didn’t mention the size and budget would be helpful.

If you are on a budget, that is totally okay, but your very best value if you want to buy the best, biggest ideal cut diamond for your budget, I would suggest you make an account on Pricescope forum, tell them your budget and let them recommend you the best (that means HCA<2 and it has maximum light return) diamond they can find you. Then just order it online from James Allen.

If you purchase it in Singapore, firstly, you will ganna conned because the majority of jewelry shops in Singapore just want to sell you a shitty diamond and take your money. How would you ever know you are being conned or not if you don’t understand diamond reports or how a diamond should sparkle or what is ideal cut? You can definitely learn and I encourage you to read up about it but many people have no interest haha. But please buy an ideal cut diamond with HCA <2 if you insist on buying from Singapore. otherwise really it is a waste of thousands of dollars if you get a dull-looking diamond that doesn’t sparkle. All shitty diamonds will sparkle in the shops, the truth will come when you take it to a window (natural light) and it still sparkles.

If the diamond you posted was cheap, it’s cheap partly because of the fluorescence. And I bet it wasn’t an ideal cut diamond. If you want to resell it in future, resale price is affected because of fluoro. HOWEVER, if you are like me and want to buy the biggest diamond i can buy in my budget, I will consider diamonds with fluorescence since they are cheaper. The problem is that diamonds w fluoro sometimes are hazy/milky, so you have to know what to look out for. You just need to look at a diamond with fluoro and a diamond without fluoro in the shop and make sure they look identical. You will definitely be able to see if one is cloudier than the other. Faint fluorescence is no problem (but you still get a faint discount).

Also, JannPaul is worth visiting regardless of the budget you have. They have ideal cut stones and I know some people who went to JP with a very very tight budget. You can definitely still get something from JP.

sorry, may i know where can c hca?in cert cant found it right?

 

[libra84]

sorry, may i know where can c hca?in cert cant found it right?

Hi the certs do not show the hca score. You need to go to price scope or simply Google hca score and you can use the tool there to calculate the hca score.

 

[libra84]

Try putting a space in the middle of the link?

https://www. pricescope.com/community/threads/opinions-on-a-diamond.236149/

Hi as suggested, I have placed a space after the www. Please remove the space to have a look at the H&A images and the cert of the diamond I mentioned earlier quoted from Poh Kim Jewellery.

 

[ThiamWan]

https://www. pricescope.com/community/threads/opinions-on-a-diamond.236149/

Hi as suggested, I have placed a space after the www. Please remove the space to have a look at the H&A images and the cert of the diamond I mentioned earlier quoted from Poh Kim Jewellery.

Saw your post. I uploaded the pic.
The Hearts and arrows not very symmetrical le.
2 of the arrows are very slanted. I think this is a borderline Ideal to Excellent cut.

You mention the price is USD 5350? Does it include tax already?
If not yet, it will come up to be about SG 7.8k already.
For this quality and price, its very expensive le

I followed my friend to JP last week. He got also compare with the Ideal cuts from House of hung. Iirc, the Ideal cut 0.8 D VS1 is 7.7k and 0.8 E VS1 is 7k or less? And the scopes are even better. But I forgot why they were Ideal cuts and not Super ideals. You can ask if its still there to see.

 

[ThiamWan]

sorry, may i know where can c hca?in cert cant found it right?

You can get the HCA score here - https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
But dont forget that good HCA score doesn't mean diamond is good. You need use the others scopes to check. A super cui diamond can still have a super good score.

 

[KinoChoco]

Saw your post. I uploaded the pic.
The Hearts and arrows not very symmetrical le.
2 of the arrows are very slanted. I think this is a borderline Ideal to Excellent cut.

You mention the price is USD 5350? Does it include tax already?
If not yet, it will come up to be about SG 7.8k already.
For this quality and price, its very expensive le

I followed my friend to JP last week. He got also compare with the Ideal cuts from House of hung. Iirc, the Ideal cut 0.8 D VS1 is 7.7k and 0.8 E VS1 is 7k or less? And the scopes are even better. But I forgot why they were Ideal cuts and not Super ideals. You can ask if its still there to see.

Never purchase simply based on such H&A scopes, i've seen scopes like this showing perfect 8 hearts and arrows but ASET shows that there's plenty of leakages.

Only scope to trust will be ASET for the light performance.

 

[libra84]

Saw your post. I uploaded the pic.
The Hearts and arrows not very symmetrical le.
2 of the arrows are very slanted. I think this is a borderline Ideal to Excellent cut.

You mention the price is USD 5350? Does it include tax already?
If not yet, it will come up to be about SG 7.8k already.
For this quality and price, its very expensive le

I followed my friend to JP last week. He got also compare with the Ideal cuts from House of hung. Iirc, the Ideal cut 0.8 D VS1 is 7.7k and 0.8 E VS1 is 7k or less? And the scopes are even better. But I forgot why they were Ideal cuts and not Super ideals. You can ask if its still there to see.

Its from Poh Kim Jewellery. I stated USD because Pricescope has people from all around the world. The price quoted was $7100 SGD for a 0.83ct, E, VS1. I thought its a pretty good deal! N I also thought that the H&A scope images looked pretty good (I'm still noonish I guess haha). The ASET shows little light leakage too. The fire and scintillation was also very impressive compared to those I have seen so I was very happy with it haha!

 

[libra84]

Never purchase simply based on such H&A scopes, i've seen scopes like this showing perfect 8 hearts and arrows but ASET shows that there's plenty of leakages.

Only scope to trust will be ASET for the light performance.

Ya I know but too bad I couldn't manage to take a picture of the ASET scopes...

 

[ivandemi]

should see this video explaining cut and ASET

Useful video! Its amazing how both diamonds are G color but one looks much darker. Sometimes I think diamond buying can be a very scary but rewarding process

 

[botakbotak]

Anyone heard from artisanjewel? Because of time constrain(must find time where gf is busy or with friends) I think I only can visit either JP or them at any one time.

 

[CheeRs87]

Anyone heard from artisanjewel? Because of time constrain(must find time where gf is busy or with friends) I think I only can visit either JP or them at any one time.

Never heard of them before... you might have better luck with JP for time. They got a bigger inventory to choose from and have more diamond cuts like the Octago, Brellia, etc. if you want something more special.

 

[FoodSoldier]

Good evening fellow forum mates, I write with a glad heart that I had chosen, after much perusal of the content so generously shared by those who came before me, two diamonds that appear of almost equal virtues but with almost a tenth difference in price.

Unable to decide which is the better, I would appreciate your opinion of which you would pick, ignoring price and other characteristics, based on the following images.

IDEAL

ASET

Hearts and Arrows

Actual

Sent from My Temporal Existence using GAGT

 

[KinoChoco]

Good evening fellow forum mates, I write with a glad heart that I had chosen, after much perusal of the content so generously shared by those who came before me, two diamonds that appear of almost equal virtues but with almost a tenth difference in price.

Unable to decide which is the better, I would appreciate your opinion of which you would pick, ignoring price and other characteristics, based on the following images.

IDEAL

ASET

Hearts and Arrows

Actual

Sent from My Temporal Existence using GAGT

Arent these 2 super ideal? Both will perform exactly the same in real life.

 

[wusgnb]

anyone know about michael trio,because i just saw online and free ring sizer

 

[MyWiFy]

Good evening fellow forum mates, I write with a glad heart that I had chosen, after much perusal of the content so generously shared by those who came before me, two diamonds that appear of almost equal virtues but with almost a tenth difference in price.

Unable to decide which is the better, I would appreciate your opinion of which you would pick, ignoring price and other characteristics, based on the following images.

IDEAL

ASET

Hearts and Arrows

Actual

Sent from My Temporal Existence using GAGT

Both looks the same to me. haha. Are they from JP? Their Super ideal cuts have very strict and consistent standard. You might have to make your choice on other factors like the color and clarity, etc.