Proposal Ring - Part 3

[Gothika]

Hi everyone! I read a lot about proposal ring from this thread and finally decided to go to JannPaul for the engagement ring.

JP recommended two super ideal cut diamonds for me. Attached the link to the scope images as below (can't upload images) and hope bros and sis here can help me to decide which diamond to go for.

1st
Diamond type: Super Ideal Cut
0.71 F VS1
HCA: 1.4

2nd
Diamond type: Super Ideal Cut
0.74 E VS2
HCA: 1.0

ASET:

Heart:

Ideal Scope:

Both diamonds look good to me, within my budget and it's just $550 price difference. So now I really can't decide which one to go for... please share your opinion and help me decide thanks!!

Which one is the $550 cheaper one? If I were to pick, I’ll choose the 0.74 one with higher color.

 

[Gothika]

Btw, what’s the difference between replating and reploshing? JP gives 2 free replating and repolishing services. Is it u can choose to either replate or repolish?

 

[J*Squared]

I had seen my '60/60' rock in the store and noted down its properties, went all over the internet and read 100+ threads on the topic to have more info apart from ideal cuts. A majority of the rocks sold revolve around TIC proportions. People look for it, people advocate it, people sell it. What about 60/60? Do most people get a chance to play around with in in real life and give it a chance to impress?

Textbook proportions are the best bet to be safe with the purchase since there are less variables to worry about the diamond proportions. Everyone wants ideal, for example, what's your ideal partner proportion? A curvy sexy lady and a sweet personality (HCA <2)? What happens if she doesn't meet your textbook values when you first meet her online/in person? Maybe she is a little/less extra here and there (HCA 2<3) but overall feel, emotion and personality makes you decide she is worth dating. Online shopping for diamonds and online search for girls lacks the physical 3D view and 'emotional connection', the way each behaves.

No one here mentioned 60/60 is fake marketing like Jadeites mentioned, my salesperson did not say is 60/60 is good, neither did she downplay the rock and try to sell me a more expensive TIC. I had a discussion with her about TIC and she told me to look with my eyes under different lightings and have the feel; exclude all the GIA report and what I know for a moment. Is it a good diamond if proportion are well matched? Perhaps. Would you enter a store, tell the sales person to prepare BIC, TIC and FIC and let you compare? Well I did. I want to compare how the 60/60 will look with TIC as the control reference. Each have its own personality (assuming cut proportion is ideal for each BIC, TIC and FIC) to bring out its best. Don't be too hard up on proportion numbers after you seen the rock's light performance, but pick the best you can for each group within budget. Just my thoughts.

 

[J*Squared]

Btw, what’s the difference between replating and reploshing? JP gives 2 free replating and repolishing services. Is it u can choose to either replate or repolish?

Replating is to reapply a new layer of metal to your ring's base material. Like rose gold on top of platinum. Repolishing is to buff the ring and do away with the scratches and make it shiny again.

I think what JP meant is repolish first and replate concurrently. The keyword here you type is 'AND' so it is inclusive of both services. You should verify with them again.

 

[Lydia.Tan]

I had seen my '60/60' rock in the store and noted down its properties, went all over the internet and read 100+ threads on the topic to have more info apart from ideal cuts. A majority of the rocks sold revolve around TIC proportions. People look for it, people advocate it, people sell it. What about 60/60? Do most people get a chance to play around with in in real life and give it a chance to impress?

Textbook proportions are the best bet to be safe with the purchase since there are less variables to worry about the diamond proportions. Everyone wants ideal, for example, what's your ideal partner proportion? A curvy sexy lady and a sweet personality (HCA <2)? What happens if she doesn't meet your textbook values when you first meet her online/in person? Maybe she is a little/less extra here and there (HCA 2<3) but overall feel, emotion and personality makes you decide she is worth dating. Online shopping for diamonds and online search for girls lacks the physical view and 'emotional connection'.

No one here mentioned 60/60 is fake marketing like Jadeites mentioned, my salesperson did not say is 60/60 is good, neither did she downplay the rock and try to sell me a more expensive TIC. I had a discussion with her about TIC and she told me to look with my eyes under different lightings and have the feel; exclude all the GIA report and what you know for a moment. Is it a good diamond if proportion are well matched? Perhaps. Would you enter a store, tell the sales person to prepare BIC, TIC and FIC and let you compare? Well I did. I want to compare how the 60/60 will look with TIC as the control reference. Each have its own personality (assuming cut proportion is ideal for each BIC, TIC and FIC) to bring out its best. Don't be too hard up on proportion numbers after you seen the rock's light performance, but pick the best you can for each group within budget. Just my thoughts.

Oops.. sorry, I was reading back the posts and didn't realise you bought the diamond already. I didn't mean to sound harsh or judgemental I went through my diamond research and read up about 60/60 diamonds too. Then I just copied and pasted my notes about them here. It wasn't directed specifically to you.

Yes, not everyone will have the same taste in things. The emotional connection to it is a big factor too and I totally get that

 

[Lydia.Tan]

Btw, what’s the difference between replating and reploshing? JP gives 2 free replating and repolishing services. Is it u can choose to either replate or repolish?

Replating is to reapply a new layer of metal to your ring's base material. Like rose gold on top of platinum. Repolishing is to buff the ring and do away with the scratches and make it shiny again.

I think what JP meant is repolish first and replate concurrently. The keyword here you type is 'AND' so it is inclusive of both services. You should verify with them again.

Ya, its usually done together. If your ring is in whitegold, it will have a layer of rhodium plating that makes the ring more white and shiny. When the ring is repolished, it will buff out the scratch marks and will also polish off the rhodium plating.

This is how the polishing process part is like

After the polishing is done, they will need to re-apply the rhodium plating for it to be white and shiny again.

 

[jadeites]

60/60 diamonds are not a fallacy, their existence is a fact. 60/60 ideal cut diamonds is a fallacy as written in your article. Your words are inaccurate and come across as telling OP that his 60/60 diamond is a fallacy/myth, which is not true. They are considered attractive for their own characteristics. You have completely missed the point of the article.

 

[Lydia.Tan]

60/60 diamonds are not a fallacy, their existence is a fact. 60/60 ideal cut diamonds is a fallacy as written in your article. Your words are inaccurate and come across as telling OP that his 60/60 diamond is a fallacy/myth, which is not true. They are considered attractive for their own characteristics. You have completely missed the point of the article.

Nono.. I'm not saying it doesnt exist. Also, it wasn't directed to OP.
There's alot to say about 60/60 diamonds but I'll just leave it as it is. and Yes, I totally agree that each have their own attractiveness. Just like diamond Colors, not everyone necessarily likes high diamond colors as well. Some can find low colors like J K L M to be very attractive too. But that doesn't mean its bad either.

 

[J*Squared]

No worries Lydia A picture tells a thousand word and a video tells a million. No matter what the internet says about 60/60, personally for me I am still curious to see in person how it performs. Sometimes we have to weigh the disadvantages and advantages. Its really hard to explain observations in words as different people will have somewhat different understanding and imagination. My fiance prefers the brighter whites and less intense fire so I bought it for her. I told her I can consider another TIC for her after we settle down. Her hands are small so 0.5 carats looks big on her. Two small carats with two different diamond characteristics sounds good!

 

[ThiamWan]

Replating is to reapply a new layer of metal to your ring's base material. Like rose gold on top of platinum. Repolishing is to buff the ring and do away with the scratches and make it shiny again.

I think what JP meant is repolish first and replate concurrently. The keyword here you type is 'AND' so it is inclusive of both services. You should verify with them again.

Ya, its usually done together. If your ring is in whitegold, it will have a layer of rhodium plating that makes the ring more white and shiny. When the ring is repolished, it will buff out the scratch marks and will also polish off the rhodium plating.

This is how the polishing process part is like

After the polishing is done, they will need to re-apply the rhodium plating for it to be white and shiny again.

Thanks! That explains alot. I thought the polishing was using those polishing cloth like how they clean silver

 

[BlackCube]

hey, here's what i got from JP. one of them, still waiting for the other one.

if i keyed in correctly, the hca is 1.7. they given me ags cert, is it ok to post that?

how is this? it's a F VVS1 octagon brillant. AGS ideal 0 for all. rock itself $5k like that.

 

[CutiePie84]

hey, here's what i got from JP. one of them, still waiting for the other one.

if i keyed in correctly, the hca is 1.7. they given me ags cert, is it ok to post that?

how is this? it's a F VVS1 octagon brillant. AGS ideal 0 for all. rock itself $5k like that.

HCA is only for the round shapes 57 facets diamonds. It won't work on the rest. Scopes looks good!

 

[CutiePie84]

Finalized my ring design It will have a mixture of white gold, rose gold and white enamel. I was deciding between the white or black enamel then settle on white for that pure and simple look. Black enamel was nice but not sure if it'll be too unconventional.

I went through a total of 9 rounds of back and forth inputs and changes to this final one. I mentioned to them that I wanted to document my ring creation journey and they allowed me to be more involved and film part of the process They're very accommodative. Kudos to their service! I requested for a nicer render for my final design as I'll be using it for my wedding montage. This was what they came up with. Again, super impressed!

This is part of the video I took when they were showing me the changes I wanted.

This is the diamond I choped. Sorry for the shaky video.. I took it on my handphone when William was showing it to me outside. haha. I wanted to see it again outdoors. Too bad the sky was all rain clouds and no sun. Either way, the diamond still look damn good rain or shine.

This is how the sky looked like when I took the video. lol
I'll be going back there again next week to see my wax model. If its sunny, I'll post up another video of it.

 

[MrTheROCK]

Where to read up for more info for newbie like me?

 

[BlackCube]

HCA is only for the round shapes 57 facets diamonds. It won't work on the rest. Scopes looks good!

Would it better to lower spec and go for higher carat?

 

[ThiamWan]

Where to read up for more info for newbie like me?

I suggest Proposal Ring Thread Part 1, 2 and 3
or you can read from part 3 onwards. I learnt alot of from other ppls purchases. If you're lazy, you can book appt with Jannpaul. They will teach u everything there. But you should do some reading first, if not, it'll be too much absorb everything in 1 sitting.

 

[MrTheROCK]

I suggest Proposal Ring Thread Part 1, 2 and 3
or you can read from part 3 onwards. I learnt alot of from other ppls purchases. If you're lazy, you can book appt with Jannpaul. They will teach u everything there. But you should do some reading first, if not, it'll be too much absorb everything in 1 sitting.

Thank you!

If budget is 4k, can buy .5 carat including ring setting?

White gold
No fluoro
SIC
VS2
G
HCA 1.4 or lesser
Octagan shape

 

[Jench1745]

Finalized my ring design It will have a mixture of white gold, rose gold and white enamel. I was deciding between the white or black enamel then settle on white for that pure and simple look. Black enamel was nice but not sure if it'll be too unconventional.

I went through a total of 9 rounds of back and forth inputs and changes to this final one. I mentioned to them that I wanted to document my ring creation journey and they allowed me to be more involved and film part of the process They're very accommodative. Kudos to their service! I requested for a nicer render for my final design as I'll be using it for my wedding montage. This was what they came up with. Again, super impressed!

This is part of the video I took when they were showing me the changes I wanted.

This is the diamond I choped. Sorry for the shaky video.. I took it on my handphone when William was showing it to me outside. haha. I wanted to see it again outdoors. Too bad the sky was all rain clouds and no sun. Either way, the diamond still look damn good rain or shine.

This is how the sky looked like when I took the video. lol
I'll be going back there again next week to see my wax model. If its sunny, I'll post up another video of it.

Wah, your ring very chio! I really like your design, especially the inner rose gold bit inside the ring. I doubt people can see it when worn but its cool.

Good choice on the octagon diamond. I got that too. Not as big as yours but my wife received many of compliments for it already. You are right about the diamond, no matter wear you go (except for blackouts ), it will be very brilliant. Probably due to its 88 facets and cut that makes it stand out more.
With your octagon diamond and cool ring design, its definitely a head turner

 

[snowboiiz]

I think can’t. 0.5 Super ideal is 4k-ish

Thank you!

If budget is 4k, can buy .5 carat including ring setting?

White gold
No fluoro
SIC
VS2
G
HCA 1.4 or lesser
Octagan shape

 

[leroy85]

i just received my ASET scope image from JP. is it normal for the SIC to have slight difference?

like some green is thinner than others? (8o'clock VS 4 o'clock position)
and 1 of the outer green line not touching the blue arrow? (11o'clock position)