Proposal Ring - Part 3

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To be very blunt, if my future partner makes a big fuss at me over the size of a E Ring (and it's not even small like below 0.5), i'll consider to ditch her and re-consider options. I can't image how it's gonna be in the future over plenty of things in regards to items and money. :s13:
 

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@Velle19

I think the only thing u can do now is to change ur mind set

mayb getting a 0.7 is not that bad.. diamonds above 1c the price increases super a lot. quite hard to find 0.9 diamonds too. and if u compare 0.8 and 0.7 the size diff can be marginally small if put side by side, especially when it comes to diff cuttings (a good cut 0.7 might even seem bigger than a normal cut 0.8)

Fully agrees with this.
I rather get my SO a 0.7 SIC than a 1ct 3x with the budget of 10k.

0.7 SIC definitely will be more bling and chio in addition to the D colour (although many ppl said it's not obvious, only a paper cert).

I do rmb someone posted a 0.5 SIC and a 0.6/0.7 3x diamond tgt and 0.5 SIC look around the same size as that n it is more bling.
 

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I definitely agree with the sharing and responses to Velle's current situation, and can't help but to also share my 2c about this. Just a heads up, it's pretty long, and might be boring to some.

Engagement ring is meant as an object that carries a really deep meaning, lifetime promise and love for the other half. It is not simply just a ring/present to gift to the other half, but is a token of significance important that shows one's dedication and readiness to accompany his lady for the rest of her life, being there for her, and with her, regardless of anything that comes ahead for them.

Of course I do understand that ladies, generally love diamonds a lot (guys do too, like myself), and is definitely a beautiful accessory to be worn on a daily basis, be it for self admiration or also show others. Who doesn't? If we all have the money, we would be able to purchase everything we want, since we're able to do so financially. But of course, don't get me wrong here. I am not saying one should just spend unnecessarily even if he/she is wealthy.

As your partner's current financial situation isn't able to afford a 1 carat diamond ring, being his partner, and wife-to-be in the future, instead of being sad and disappointed in the size of the diamond, why don't you try looking at it from another angle? I'm sure that for an average earner, a 0.7x carat diamond is already considered rather expensive to begin with, and yet he's still willing to spend the money on getting a diamond as close to your 1 carat as possible. I know 0.3 carat is still quite a big difference, but is there really a need to get a 1 carat diamond when the current financial situation doesn't allows for it? Do you really bear to see him saving every single cent and meal, just so he can spend all these hard earned money on a 1 carat diamond, simply to satisfy the criteria you set for him?

If your answer is yes to that, maybe it just says something. I'm sure that your partner is also feeling guilty and bad as well, that he is unable to give you the 1 carat diamond that you've always been hoping for, especially if he knows that you're really upset and disappointed about it. Have you thought about that as well? That despite everything he had earned and saved, and then spending it all on a beautiful diamond ring that he thought could put a smile to your face, all it brought about is the total opposite. He'd probably hate himself even more as a result, maybe more so than the unhappiness and hatred you're currently dealing with.

Sometimes, we've to look at the current priorities and situation we're facing first, before really being affected by such issues. I'm sure that purchasing an engagement ring for the other half isn't always just about the lady. The man is involved as well, having put his heart and soul into choosing the diamond, ring, and finally the planning involved in proposing to the lady of his life. There's an emotional aspect to it as well, if you did not realise - And that is the promise he makes to you when he presents the ring in front of you, and putting it on your finger.

Like many others have shared, diamond can always be changed and upgraded, but not the promise of embarking together on this lifetime journey.

Honestly speaking, I'm actually still a full time student whom is pursuing my degree currently, but my partner and I have already applied for our BTO. As we felt that it was the right time for us to do so, giving us ample time for myself to graduate and work for a year or two, before our house is completed. Financially, I'm pretty sure I'm nowhere near to any of the gents here whom're on the search for the engagement ring to propose to their partners. Nonetheless, I've already decided to start early and propose to her some time late next year, to signify my readiness and promise to be the partner whom she can always love, trust and rely on for the rest of her life.

I've been working and saving really hard for it, but I know that I'm definitely not able to give her a 1 carat diamond. In fact, she doesn't even want such a big one, but is happy with even a 0.4 carat or smaller ones (I did casually asked her before about the size, and we also tried at jewellery stores to pass time). Furthermore, she has always been constantly reminding me to save up, for we've a lot of expenses coming right up in the next few years - My tuition fee loan, our house renovation, ROM and wedding etc.

To me, I want to get an engagement ring as big as I am able to afford so currently. Of which, I've settled on a 0.63 carat, which I've already purchased from JP after comparing a few and looking through, and am waiting for the design of the setting. Truth to be told, this has actually bust my savings by a fair bit (at least 50%), but I don't mind just scraping by for the near future, just to get her something I'd like to give to her. It's not because I want to show off the ring to our families and friends, but simply because I want to give her the best.

Furthermore, I've also constantly reprimanded myself and regretted on spending unnecessarily in the past, otherwise, I could have given her something bigger. However, I'm still satisfied with my current purchase and decision, as I know that we can always upgrade the diamond in the future, when I am able to do so financially after I start working and earning more. Most importantly, I am more excited, yet nervous at the same time, for the day of the proposal to arrive.

My apologies for the really long post and if I had sounded harsh/rude/etc, but I'm just trying to share my honest views from someone whose definitely not financially capable at all, so that maybe you could have a better look at the overall picture. If you look at the engagement ring from another perspective, maybe you'll feel better, that your partner has decided to be together with you for the rest of his life, and will love and care for you as his partner, wife, and mother of your future family. If you simply see the ring as an object for personal admiration, you'll never be able to get past this emotional turmoil inside you, and maybe you have to reconsider your future with him.
 

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See it this way, whatever your partner decides in the diamond ring of your proposal, is what he can afford at that specific point of time. If you got an upgrade policy with the shop, hold down until he is more financially stable. And yes, most of us do get financially stable as the older we go. Carat size is not everything. First of all you go for whatever is the most eye catching (bling). In fact, the larger the size you go, the better the cut you want as cut imperfections will be even more obvious on bigger diamonds.

My mum has a 1ct exc exc exc and I can literally see through the diamond into the metal ring at the bottom at some parts. My wife has a 0.6ct Solasfera and it always gets more attention than my mums 1ct when we go out. She and I are both proud of her ring. Most of all, it reminds me when the time I was abit tight on finance but I did the best, to get her the best. Ultimately, we may or may not upgrade in the future, it is unlikely since she likes wearing it very often and maybe awkward too if she wears a diamond too big for everyday.

It sounds like you really want a 1ct. I suggest if you have an upgrade policy, use it. Or else savour your ring as a good memory or just buy another ring when he is more financially stable and get a good cut one.
 

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I definitely agree with the sharing and responses to Velle's current situation, and can't help but to also share my 2c about this. Just a heads up, it's pretty long, and might be boring to some.

Engagement ring is meant as an object that carries a really deep meaning, lifetime promise and love for the other half. It is not simply just a ring/present to gift to the other half, but is a token of significance important that shows one's dedication and readiness to accompany his lady for the rest of her life, being there for her, and with her, regardless of anything that comes ahead for them.

I appreciated this wall of text and I think young thltetek has got the right idea. I too subscribe to the deeper meaning behind the engagement ring. I was fairly comfortable with my finances and didn't have a budget (worked reasonably hard to be able to get away with the occasional big ticket purchase fortunately), but was armed with a hint from my SO. She's a simple, petite and elegant lady who wanted a stone proportionate to her (very slim) fingers with a classic setting. Safe to say, the both of us place far greater value in the intangibles in our relationship.

Even so, I spared no effort and paid close attention to detail when presented with such a wide array of available diamonds. I must have gone to the shop five times and even dragged my mom along twice for a lady's opinion!

In the end, I decided on a 0.54. It's definitely not a big one by any means (my mom was like eh you sure big enough or not) but I know that that would have been the stone she would have picked too. I don't feel bad that I could have gotten a 1+ct either. And that's the magic of ring hunting in my opinion - being able to step into your partner's shoes and understanding everything in your relationship that has led to this moment. I've since collected the ring and man, I'd be proud as hell to be the man who puts that ring on her finger.

Just my 2cents - I know everyone's circumstance is different. All the best to all the gents / lucky ladies out there!
 

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I appreciated this wall of text and I think young thltetek has got the right idea. I too subscribe to the deeper meaning behind the engagement ring. I was fairly comfortable with my finances and didn't have a budget (worked reasonably hard to be able to get away with the occasional big ticket purchase fortunately), but was armed with a hint from my SO. She's a simple, petite and elegant lady who wanted a stone proportionate to her (very slim) fingers with a classic setting. Safe to say, the both of us place far greater value in the intangibles in our relationship.

Even so, I spared no effort and paid close attention to detail when presented with such a wide array of available diamonds. I must have gone to the shop five times and even dragged my mom along twice for a lady's opinion!

In the end, I decided on a 0.54. It's definitely not a big one by any means (my mom was like eh you sure big enough or not) but I know that that would have been the stone she would have picked too. I don't feel bad that I could have gotten a 1+ct either. And that's the magic of ring hunting in my opinion - being able to step into your partner's shoes and understanding everything in your relationship that has led to this moment. I've since collected the ring and man, I'd be proud as hell to be the man who puts that ring on her finger.

Just my 2cents - I know everyone's circumstance is different. All the best to all the gents / lucky ladies out there!

totally agree! the value of the diamond is more on its significance to me as well..
 

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Since everybody is on this topic, how many percent of your saving do you guys use to buy a ring.
And how much percentage of your partners salary do you Thnk is required for the ring.

Understnd that everybody have their own take or pref.juz would like to hear the diff opinions.
 

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Since everybody is on this topic, how many percent of your saving do you guys use to buy a ring.
And how much percentage of your partners salary do you Thnk is required for the ring.

Understnd that everybody have their own take or pref.juz would like to hear the diff opinions.

I think this question very dangerous hahaha but anyway my feel is actually to just get a size that is proportionate to the lady's finger. If I had slim fingers like my sister, I would just go for a 0.3x carat diamond.. Heck, hers is like a 0.31/0.32 carat and it looks dam big on her finger so if I were her/her husband, that's the max I would go for.. I can't even get her ring to go past the first section of my baby finger.. That's how fat my fingers are xD with that said, I think 0.7x looks fine on mine :) with halo looks bigger and just earlier today my bf said if I wanna remove the halo I can.. Bt not sure if I can live with a round shape hahaha cuz I prefer cushion shape(which is the shape of the halo now).. Aiyo headache..
 

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I think this question very dangerous hahaha but anyway my feel is actually to just get a size that is proportionate to the lady's finger. If I had slim fingers like my sister, I would just go for a 0.3x carat diamond.. Heck, hers is like a 0.31/0.32 carat and it looks dam big on her finger so if I were her/her husband, that's the max I would go for.. I can't even get her ring to go past the first section of my baby finger.. That's how fat my fingers are xD with that said, I think 0.7x looks fine on mine :) with halo looks bigger and just earlier today my bf said if I wanna remove the halo I can.. Bt not sure if I can live with a round shape hahaha cuz I prefer cushion shape(which is the shape of the halo now).. Aiyo headache..

Hahha Mayb all women will wish they have super slim fingers and all men hope so too! Hahaha so coincidence we talking about it and ur bf asked?but ur ring already done rte?
 

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Hahha Mayb all women will wish they have super slim fingers and all men hope so too! Hahaha so coincidence we talking about it and ur bf asked?but ur ring already done rte?

Ya really coincidental.. Or rather, we're still at designing stage now (aka ring haven't even make yet) but I guess can say it's at final stages le.. My only concern is that the settings for the halo looks nice but not sure if I could live with seeing the supposed "lines" that seem to appear between each diamond due to the settings :/ but I dunno what other settings would be good to make the cushion halo T_T and since last time I was okay to remove the halo to save a few hundreds, he's okay with it now lol
 

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Since everybody is on this topic, how many percent of your saving do you guys use to buy a ring.
And how much percentage of your partners salary do you Thnk is required for the ring.

Understnd that everybody have their own take or pref.juz would like to hear the diff opinions.

Men pay for both diamond n wedding bands

Enuff said

:(:(:(
 

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Men pay for both diamond n wedding bands

Enuff said

:(:(:(

This defers from couple to couple I think. Most of my friends share wedding band costs.. My bf shameless, ask me pay for wedding bands hahaha but well from the looks of it, I'll spend lesser than half of what he did for my e-ring so not complaining bah..
 

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Since everybody is on this topic, how many percent of your saving do you guys use to buy a ring.
And how much percentage of your partners salary do you Thnk is required for the ring.

Understnd that everybody have their own take or pref.juz would like to hear the diff opinions.

My ring is 3.7k so roughly 1 month's salary. I like larger diamonds and was looking at 1ct but after paying school loans (and possibility of further studies/ some funding for my sis' uni), it's too big of a splurge to spend 5 times this amount on a "better" diamond ring that I would be so cautious of losing/damaging. Yet I love big sizes, so I got a 1.27ct grey diamond. No regrets, often see strangers checking it out (hope not because they think it's ugly!)

There's a few categories I can see for spending:
Income less than 3k: 2k~ on the ring should be ok
5k income: 4 to 6k, any higher depends on the guy's willingness
Etc... I do think spending less than 0.5mths is not very nice. You can do it, it's just not nice...Unless your partner explicitly says they want a cheap one.

Anyway my advice to all the guys. Finger small doesn't mean her eyes will also perceive 0.3ct as 1ct... larger diamonds undeniably have the surface area that you can visually apportion into top left, top right, bottom left bottom right etc that a <0.5ct just can't. I'm not kidding. That's why I always advised people who want to size up to do it even if it's not the best specs because it's very rare that people will regret "going too big". I think the 2ct and up kind can divide into more, including a middle section.

Most people here have high expectations of specs and prefer Super Ideal but stores also sell normal diamonds that shine and sparkle just as diamonds do. JP does charge a premium on Super Ideal but they are gorgeous. It's just not something I would prioritise over carat unless my budget is > 10k.
 
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This defers from couple to couple I think. Most of my friends share wedding band costs.. My bf shameless, ask me pay for wedding bands hahaha but well from the looks of it, I'll spend lesser than half of what he did for my e-ring so not complaining bah..

Huh so after the insistence to pay for the ering, he asked you to pay for the wedding bands yourself? Is this a common practice? I've never heard my friends doing this before... But going halfsies on the ering, it's quite common in western countries.
 

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I appreciated this wall of text and I think young thltetek has got the right idea. I too subscribe to the deeper meaning behind the engagement ring. I was fairly comfortable with my finances and didn't have a budget (worked reasonably hard to be able to get away with the occasional big ticket purchase fortunately), but was armed with a hint from my SO. She's a simple, petite and elegant lady who wanted a stone proportionate to her (very slim) fingers with a classic setting. Safe to say, the both of us place far greater value in the intangibles in our relationship.

Even so, I spared no effort and paid close attention to detail when presented with such a wide array of available diamonds. I must have gone to the shop five times and even dragged my mom along twice for a lady's opinion!

In the end, I decided on a 0.54. It's definitely not a big one by any means (my mom was like eh you sure big enough or not) but I know that that would have been the stone she would have picked too. I don't feel bad that I could have gotten a 1+ct either. And that's the magic of ring hunting in my opinion - being able to step into your partner's shoes and understanding everything in your relationship that has led to this moment. I've since collected the ring and man, I'd be proud as hell to be the man who puts that ring on her finger.

Just my 2cents - I know everyone's circumstance is different. All the best to all the gents / lucky ladies out there!

Yes, definitely agree with you, bro. Apart from having to fork out a sum of money for the ring, I think what's more meaningful and enjoyable is the process of finding the diamond, going through the ring setting design process, to finally proposing and putting the ring onto her finger. It's never just about one part of the process, but the entire journey from start to end. Of course I'm sure not everyone feels this way too.

To me, process is an important aspect in life, regardless of what we do, and I'd certainly want to enjoy and derive great meaning from it. All the best and good luck to all the gents and ladies out there in your diamond hunt!
 

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depends on couple to couple.. for me, e ring was paid fully by me, wedding bands from joint account:)
 

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depends on couple to couple.. for me, e ring was paid fully by me, wedding bands from joint account:)

yeah common practice, Ering is by husband, wedding bands are half half as she pays for your band, you pay for her band.

In western countries, if i'm not wrong, the banquet cost is paid by the female's family lol.
 
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