Proposal Ring - Part 3

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These are my pictures of my octagon being crafted. Super recommend Avery from JP. You can specifically book who you want in JP. Just say in the email whu you want. I asked her if I can see any photos of my ring when putting the diamond in for my wedding portfolio. She helped far and beyond and realli went the extra mile to help in my whole diamond buying.

Super excited!

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Got these scope photos from JP. There are some white patches on the actual photos at the bottom of the 1st photo and top of the 2nd photo. Is that due to diamond cut or light reflection?


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Is this octagon from jp? i thought only round have hearts and arrows?
 

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Would a low HCA score of 0.9 be a concern? I entered the stats of a diamond into pricescope and it mentions that it should sparkle beautifully and appear larger than its carat weight but low HCS score + bigger diamonds can appear dark when viewed up close and are great for pendants and earrings. Should I be concerned? It’s a JP diamond.
 

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Would a low HCA score of 0.9 be a concern? I entered the stats of a diamond into pricescope and it mentions that it should sparkle beautifully and appear larger than its carat weight but low HCS score + bigger diamonds can appear dark when viewed up close and are great for pendants and earrings. Should I be concerned? It’s a JP diamond.

U mean like that? :s13:
Dun worry, it’s not too much of a concern

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Would a low HCA score of 0.9 be a concern? I entered the stats of a diamond into pricescope and it mentions that it should sparkle beautifully and appear larger than its carat weight but low HCS score + bigger diamonds can appear dark when viewed up close and are great for pendants and earrings. Should I be concerned? It’s a JP diamond.

What you’re referring to is the danger below 40.6 angles in combination of certain lower girdle facet lengths. This is definitely in consideration when JP chooses their SICs. LGF is actually a big consideration (including stars) in their criteria for SIC. This is something you don’t have to worry abt for a JP SIC. You shld only start to worry if it’s an Ideal with 40.5 angle and a very high crown.

Remember, head obstruction / performance is not only related to the pavilion angle only, but crown, lgf and stars and table too. All these must be taken into consideration as well into all these relations.

If you have the ASET, this can simply be confirmed. What you are exactly referring to are diamonds that do not show the ASET with a GIA cert 40.6 pavilion angle, given how GIA rounding system is, this will cause problems if not scopes are provided.
But If it’s a JP SIC, it’s definitely not a worry at all.
 

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Price comparison for the same specs.

Brian Gavin is slightly cheaper than JP right? Or there will still be differences on the cutting? As BG did not state SIC etc.

Any reason for this? Direct without middleman?
 

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Is this octagon from jp? i thought only round have hearts and arrows?

Yup, it's an Octagon from JP. Hearts n arrows are usually limited to the round shapes. JP has their own cuts and have them in cushion and octagon too. Iirc, the cushion is same 57 facets as the round, but the octagon is higher at 88 facets.


Nice pics. It’ll be cool if you can get them to do a video too.

I tried finding their crafting videos and could only find this. I didn't know they got crafting education videos too.

 

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Price comparison for the same specs.

Brian Gavin is slightly cheaper than JP right? Or there will still be differences on the cutting? As BG did not state SIC etc.

Any reason for this? Direct without middleman?

Price. Not really. The BG black can be as expensive as JP SIC. But their BG signature range is good value

IMO, JP has the least variations followed by B2C perfection range, BGD and whiteflash.

Superideal cut is just a marketing term with no clear definition, any retailer can call their ‘best’ stones SIC. BrianGavin does not have to state it. He used to cut fir whiteflash but started his own business and just calls his top stones the ‘black range’

Middleman? The miners have already taken the biggest cut. Then u have the cutting house, followed by the wholesalers, jeweller etc
So yes u can consider BGD more direct without the middleman but he’s just taking in more of the profits

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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/business/diamonds-mining.amp.html
“A glut in many other industries would ordinarily lead to deep price cuts. But consumers are buying stones that have passed through many layers of middlemen: traders, polishers and cutters, who have absorbed much of the raw stones’ price volatility, as well as brands and jewelry houses that create rings, bracelets and necklaces. This has kept retail prices relatively constant, fueled by robust demand from shoppers all over the world”
 

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Thanks for sharing Miltah.

Think I'll just go for JP SIC.

0.55 F VS2.

Waiting for the actual scopes.
 

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What you’re referring to is the danger below 40.6 angles in combination of certain lower girdle facet lengths. This is definitely in consideration when JP chooses their SICs. LGF is actually a big consideration (including stars) in their criteria for SIC. This is something you don’t have to worry abt for a JP SIC. You shld only start to worry if it’s an Ideal with 40.5 angle and a very high crown.

Remember, head obstruction / performance is not only related to the pavilion angle only, but crown, lgf and stars and table too. All these must be taken into consideration as well into all these relations.

If you have the ASET, this can simply be confirmed. What you are exactly referring to are diamonds that do not show the ASET with a GIA cert 40.6 pavilion angle, given how GIA rounding system is, this will cause problems if not scopes are provided.
But If it’s a JP SIC, it’s definitely not a worry at all.

Thanks for the assurance. I just plugged my diamond specs into HCA and got a score of 0.8. Got nervous for abit.
 

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Hi all, I dropped by JP today and booked a diamond. I was introduced to their different cuts and narrowed down to their Super ideal cut and Octagon. I was considering their Solasfera too but they had very limited stocks left. Though I understand that the Solasfera is a better scintillation diamond, the fire will be smaller due to the thinner arrows. Avery suggested me the Octagon that was meant to be between the Solasfera and Super ideal. I saw the Octagon in the different light set up and could really see how it shined. It outperformed the Super ideal for sure and I quite like the idea of the 88 facets.

Im still abit torn between the Octagon or Super ideal. My gf told me she wants the simple classic plain solitaire but wants it to be abit different and special. So my thinking is to make the diamond more special and keep the setting simple. I booked the Octagon but Avery is allowing me to change it to others if I want. But I need to confirm by this week cos i need my ring by xmas. She's going to superimpose my Octagon and the Super ideal on my gf hand photo to help me visualize. Will post them up once I get it!

Anyway, here are the Octagon scopes.

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Yup, it's an Octagon from JP. Hearts n arrows are usually limited to the round shapes. JP has their own cuts and have them in cushion and octagon too. Iirc, the cushion is same 57 facets as the round, but the octagon is higher at 88 facets.




I tried finding their crafting videos and could only find this. I didn't know they got crafting education videos too.


How to get these videos? Can request?
 
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