Proposal Ring - Part 3

[JJJ010101]

Thanks otaku7 and DanMWM ..

if HCA score below 2, still need to see ideal/aset scope?

in other words,

is it possible for a diamond to have HCA score below 2, but when using ideal/aset scope , it still shows more light leakage compared to HCA score above 2?

 

[LindaLiao]

Don't mind me asking, may I know what is the HCA score of your old ring?

My old ring HCA score is 1.1 and there was still a lot of light leakages.

 

[LindaLiao]

Thanks otaku7 and DanMWM ..

if HCA score below 2, still need to see ideal/aset scope?

in other words,

is it possible for a diamond to have HCA score below 2, but when using ideal/aset scope , it still shows more light leakage compared to HCA score above 2?

Ya. You should try for a HCA of 1.4 below. But HCA score is still not good enough. A bad diamond can still get a good score. But a bad score confirms a bad diamond.

 

[tkcmage]

Diamond advice

Any comments on my diamond is warmly appreciated!

 

[pinkibeee]

Nice ring !! Mind sharing the spec ?

Hello! It's a 0.52ct, F, VS2

 

[DiCaprio]

Any comments on my diamond is warmly appreciated!

Looks good, definitely more symmetrical than mine which I posted a few posts back depsite the same specs.

 

[tkcmage]

standard Char too

Thanks a lot!

anyone could advise on the crystal inclusion as I read that crystal inclusion is the most unfavourable. How do I actually spot where are the crystals inclusion in my diamond?

 

[kira1984]

This is mine

 

[donlaughla]

HCA is only for us to sort out the bad apples from the apples.
HCA score is gd still does not mean the diamond is gd. As the rest said, there are alot other factors which can bring down the price.

As you said, they need cover rental and salaries also. In addition, JP diamonds prices will change slightly depending on the currency exchange rate.

Noted, thanks so much for the explanation. Give me more assurance to get the diamond from Jann Paul.

But I only plan to propose probably in the 3rd quarter of 2016, would it be too early for me to get the ring? Or perhaps I should wait till 3 to 4 mths before the proposal date?

 

[whitetiger89]

Noted, thanks so much for the explanation. Give me more assurance to get the diamond from Jann Paul.

But I only plan to propose probably in the 3rd quarter of 2016, would it be too early for me to get the ring? Or perhaps I should wait till 3 to 4 mths before the proposal date?

I believe you can start your search now, as you might not find one that you like immediately, so some buffer time is recommended.

Furthermore, I was told that I can keep my ring with them until I need it, and most of the payment can be delayed till then too, so I guess there is no harm in starting early?

 

[DanMWM]

Noted, thanks so much for the explanation. Give me more assurance to get the diamond from Jann Paul.

But I only plan to propose probably in the 3rd quarter of 2016, would it be too early for me to get the ring? Or perhaps I should wait till 3 to 4 mths before the proposal date?

I believe you can start your search now, as you might not find one that you like immediately, so some buffer time is recommended.

Furthermore, I was told that I can keep my ring with them until I need it, and most of the payment can be delayed till then too, so I guess there is no harm in starting early?

Yeah like what whitetiger said.
and in addition, the stocks are limited, especially solasfera and brellia cuts. You might not get the carat or other features that you are going for.

And you need to decide on the settings also. Customised ones might take a longer time as they have to design for you in accordance to your preference before they go ahead to mold the setting.

 

[DiCaprio]

Noted, thanks so much for the explanation. Give me more assurance to get the diamond from Jann Paul.

But I only plan to propose probably in the 3rd quarter of 2016, would it be too early for me to get the ring? Or perhaps I should wait till 3 to 4 mths before the proposal date?

Like what the other bros have advised, it pays to start the search early. I only just started searching, intending to propose in June, and stock at JP is limited for the specs I prefer, plus future shipment date is uncertain.

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[madeacheesecake]

Hi anybody has feedback on Derocks?? Thanks!

 

[hamliomusica]

Noted, thanks so much for the explanation. Give me more assurance to get the diamond from Jann Paul.

But I only plan to propose probably in the 3rd quarter of 2016, would it be too early for me to get the ring? Or perhaps I should wait till 3 to 4 mths before the proposal date?

I bought/order my ring from JP early of Feb16. And my order will only be ready by 30/4/16.
Better to go earlier

 

[lvlaTr1X]

Picked my proposal ring

Well, just went down to JP during lunch time to pick the diamond.

After a very hard time considering between 0.59 VVS2 D and this 0.62 VVS1 G. I picked the 0.62 costing me 5k excluding setting, picked a platinum setting and add another 1k need to eat bread for the coming few weeks

 

[Gothika]

Collected my ring from JP

I upgraded my ring to a Super Ideal cut 0.52ct G VS2 with them. Vince served us and gave a thorough diamond education. At first my hubby say no need so much education since this is his second time buying a diamond. Then the more Vince explained the more we realised how little we knew.. lol. There is so much more than just the 4Cs. The certificate can only tells the basic information and there's actually a lot of things that the GIA certificate doesn't say. The first time my hubby bought the ring, he thought the Cut, Polish, Symmetry all Excellent is the best already. Back then, he only saw the hearts and arrows scope. Don't have the Ideal and Aset scope to see the light leakages.

My old ring is a 0.45ct D VVS2. According to the sales lady back then, she said this was an Ideal cut. My new JP ring is a 0.52 G VS2. I was abit apprehensive at first to downgrade the Color and Clarity since this is an upgrade ring which in my mindset is suppose to be a better ring. Then Vince showed me the difference for the Color and Clarity which I couldn't really tell. Then I learnt that what actually affects the brightness and colourful sparkles is not the Color but the Cut! When I compared the Super Ideal cut G color diamond with my old D color diamond ring, the G actually looked brighter and whiter! When I saw this, I was convinced that the Cut is way more important that the Color..

Another surprising thing I realised is the size difference. The 0.52ct looked much bigger than my 0.45ct. For 0.07ct diff, I didn't expect the size difference to be so obvious. It looked more like a 0.6ct to me.. Vince explained that the carat is the weight of the diamond only. For their Super Ideal cuts they are cut to maximise the carat weight so that it will look bigger. But of course cannot be too wide as well if not there will be light leakages. Me and my hubby was like "oohhhh..." haha.. Felt like students listening to a teacher..

I had itchy finger and tried using the Ideal and Aset scope to see my old ring. The arrows wasn't as defined and I could spot areas of light leakages near the middle and side of my diamond. Which makes me wonder how do shops actually justify or prove that their diamond is really an Ideal or Super Ideal cut if they don't use those scopes?

All in all, super happy with my new ring We saved on the Color and Clarity grade and prioritised on the Cut. Didn't have to spend so much on the upgrade.. hehe

P.S. Sorry for the long post!

I didn't expect 0.4 to 0.5ct size to be so big.. Tbh, until now, I still find my Solasfera 0.3 carat ring to be quite big on my partner's finger. I think it also helps that her finger size is only 45. hahaha

 

[otaku7]

I didn't expect 0.4 to 0.5ct size to be so big.. Tbh, until now, I still find my Solasfera 0.3 carat ring to be quite big on my partner's finger. I think it also helps that her finger size is only 45. hahaha

because like another user mentioned, carat is just the weight of the rock. the part which you look at (usually the top) is the which will give you the view of how big the diamond will look on the ring/finger. so, by maximizing the table/crown part, the diamond will look bigger than normal.

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[pinkibeee]

Or if your diamond is set on a higher setting, it makes the diamond looks bigger than its size.

 

[Lss]

I didn't expect 0.4 to 0.5ct size to be so big.. Tbh, until now, I still find my Solasfera 0.3 carat ring to be quite big on my partner's finger. I think it also helps that her finger size is only 45. hahaha

Mine has a smaller ring size of 39 but 0.35 seems to look best. Did you take a picture?

 

[kwgoh]

Noted, thanks so much for the explanation. Give me more assurance to get the diamond from Jann Paul.

But I only plan to propose probably in the 3rd quarter of 2016, would it be too early for me to get the ring? Or perhaps I should wait till 3 to 4 mths before the proposal date?

Never too early. Just buy then no need headache.i bought a 0.643 solesfera with side diamond setting. Will only use it end of the year or early next year.