Proposal Ring - Part 3

[dearmisterj]

Bought from JP last weekend. 3rd private jeweller shop I visited but the extensive education from Casey impressed me enough to know that the diamonds I will receive will be professionally explained to me so I thoroughly understand what I am buying. As the crowd was not too bad, he offered to walk me out in the street in various lightings to see how the diamond I chose would performed respectively. It was superbly awesome service so I know what I will expect from the fire,scintillation and sparkle of diamond other than the pretence of lighting display in these jewellery shops.

Nonetheless, help me to evaluate if this is a good and worthy buy for $3850, much appreciated! This is an ideal cut by the way.

GIA Report Details
Weight: 0.60 carat
Color Grade: E
Clarity Grade: VS2
Shape and Cutting Style: Round Brilliant
Cut Grade: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescene: None
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Feather

Holloway Cut Adviser
Total Visal Performance Rating: 1.2 - Excellent

this is an ideal cut right? can see some areas of weaker light returns as well as the hearts and arrows not being very symmetrical. that being said, I would think for the price it should be quite a good buy considering the hca of 1.2 and decent arrows and contrast.. most probably wouldnt vary significantly from a super ideal to the naked eye

 

[dearmisterj]

That's quite a big difference.

GIA or AGS won't affect much on the pricing right? Cause my diamond is from AGS

i thought jp's super ideals are all certified with GIA?

 

[coolhead]

this is an ideal cut right? can see some areas of weaker light returns as well as the hearts and arrows not being very symmetrical. that being said, I would think for the price it should be quite a good buy considering the hca of 1.2 and decent arrows and contrast.. most probably wouldnt vary significantly from a super ideal to the naked eye

yep, it's an ideal cut. Maybe mine is an untrained eye as I couldn't tell the difference from super ideal when the comparison was made. U r right that the hearts and arrows are not very symmetrical, as pointed out by JP and hence, this was delegated to ideal cut.

Can I say that the hearts and arrows are the precision of the cut to delineate the contrast?

 

[donlaughla]

i thought jp's super ideals are all certified with GIA?

Jerome told me they have both GIA and AGS.

 

[Lynntoh]

That's quite a big difference.

GIA or AGS won't affect much on the pricing right? Cause my diamond is from AGS

My diamond is from AGS too. Mind me asking when did you purchase the diamond?

 

[dearmisterj]

yep, it's an ideal cut. Maybe mine is an untrained eye as I couldn't tell the difference from super ideal when the comparison was made. U r right that the hearts and arrows are not very symmetrical, as pointed out by JP and hence, this was delegated to ideal cut.

Can I say that the hearts and arrows are the precision of the cut to delineate the contrast?

i believe its something like that.. to give the fire and scintillation some eveness when they sparkle.. but unless you're looking so closely at the diamond, I doubt it will make much difference hahaha

 

[cherrystalk]

can't decide between the brellia and solitaire! both are so pretty.

 

[Lavendar520]

Finally second visit JP..already place deposit for Super Idea Cut 0.62 F VVS2..
Can experts here help to see or any comment on scope image below?

Due sufficient post count..who can help me upload Images links below:
Thanks

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Can help to see above scope image, diamond ok or not?
Thanks

 

[coolhead]

i believe its something like that.. to give the fire and scintillation some eveness when they sparkle.. but unless you're looking so closely at the diamond, I doubt it will make much difference hahaha

Wow sounds good! I wouldn't mind if its relegated to ideal cut becoz of slight uneveness of hearts and arrows, as long as the fire and scintillation are there. If ideal cut becoz of fire and scintillation, then I will totally mind lol. Ok, 0.6 carat for ideal at 3,850 is a good buy for me!

 

[dearmisterj]

Can help to see above scope image, diamond ok or not?
Thanks

Here you go, they look fine don't worry. How much did this cost? I would say... around 5.5k?

 

[dearmisterj]

can't decide between the brellia and solitaire! both are so pretty.

They are quite different diamonds in my opinion, have you looked at photos where the diamonds are worn on the fingers? Its a matter of personal preference but my girlfriend prefers round cuts, more classic look. The Brellia gives me a more vintage feel, and will look good with a halo setting imo

 

[Lavendar520]

Here you go, they look fine don't worry. How much did this cost? I would say... around 5.5k?

Thanks a lot^^ price $5450

 

[Alwaysthatshort]

the brellia and super ideal are very different diamonds in my opinion. do you prefer a square or round diamond?

Hi dearmister
I personally prefer brellia, but based on the two diamonds specs, I'm not sure which is better. Any advice?

 

[dearmisterj]

Hi dearmister
I personally prefer brellia, but based on the two diamonds specs, I'm not sure which is better. Any advice?

Are you referring to this two? You can refer to specs, but at the end of the day the most important is still how it looks to you. If you prefer the Brellia and you think the flaws are not acceptable, how about checking with JP if they have another Brellia of a better clarity, albeit a little smaller? You can't really compare a Brellia with the round brilliant since the way it is cut is different, and so is the scintillation and fire.. Personally I wouldn't choose a diamond cut that I like less as compared to one I like more just because the specs look better. My two cents

 

[Alwaysthatshort]

Are you referring to this two? You can refer to specs, but at the end of the day the most important is still how it looks to you. If you prefer the Brellia and you think the flaws are not acceptable, how about checking with JP if they have another Brellia of a better clarity, albeit a little smaller? You can't really compare a Brellia with the round brilliant since the way it is cut is different, and so is the scintillation and fire.. Personally I wouldn't choose a diamond cut that I like less as compared to one I like more just because the specs look better. My two cents

Thanks dearmister, I guess I shall take a closer look at the brellia again once the wax model is done. As from the scope seems like there's quite a bit of light leakage. Correct me if I'm wrong

 

[dearmisterj]

Are you referring to this two? You can refer to specs, but at the end of the day the most important is still how it looks to you. If you prefer the Brellia and you think the flaws are not acceptable, how about checking with JP if they have another Brellia of a better clarity, albeit a little smaller? You can't really compare a Brellia with the round brilliant since the way it is cut is different, and so is the scintillation and fire.. Personally I wouldn't choose a diamond cut that I like less as compared to one I like more just because the specs look better. My two cents

Thanks dearmister, I guess I shall take a closer look at the brellia again once the wax model is done. As from the scope seems like there's quite a bit of light leakage. Correct me if I'm wrong

personally i dont see any problems with either scopes, both look to have ideal light returns.. light leakage is indicated by white areas, and both diamonds are bound to have a little around the edges ( you can see these with all the previous users' scopes too).. what i mean is that if you feel that the flaws ( i.e the cloud, feather, crystal incursions) are too visible for your preference, you may want to select another brellia of higher clarity. does the brellia diamond look less shiny to the naked eye? anw i dont think the wax model has anything to do with the diamond performance it is purely to show you an example of the setting.

 

[fir3bon3]

Thanks for the help! Haha.. Is there anything else I should look for in the diamond?

Nth much alrdy. These scopes are use to analyze light performance and symmetry of the diamond.
They look good so there shouldn't be any worries.
Color and Clarity maybe? That's more like personal preference.

You decided on your ring design?

 

[fir3bon3]

Summary of all their diamond cuts. They really do shine man...

Damn~~ they all look super duper blingbling la! Swee!

 

[Scylla]

Proposal was a success! It's been so rainy in Melbourne, but managed to propose on a good-weather day.

Sent from the dark side of the moon using GAGT

gxgx. i proposed in melbourne too (last year)

 

[fir3bon3]

Personally I do prefer the brellia cut. But I'm just worried that on the specs. Like it will not be sparkly. I saw some crystal, cloud and needle on the report and it look pretty much. Does it affect the appearance of the diamond?

personally i dont see any problems with either scopes, both look to have ideal light returns.. light leakage is indicated by white areas, and both diamonds are bound to have a little around the edges ( you can see these with all the previous users' scopes too).. what i mean is that if you feel that the flaws ( i.e the cloud, feather, crystal incursions) are too visible for your preference, you may want to select another brellia of higher clarity. does the brellia diamond look less shiny to the naked eye? anw i dont think the wax model has anything to do with the diamond performance it is purely to show you an example of the setting.

Agree with bro dearmisterj;

Scopes
Light return ✓
Hearts ✓
inclusions are normal (unless you're going for Internally Flawless or Flawless diamond) furthermore they won't be visible to the naked eye.

Go for the Brellia if you like that. I don't see any reason the inclusion should affect your decision. But still decision lies with you!