Proposal Ring - Part 3

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mero_cwj

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That's what i've been thinking as well, no girl will find it too big right. ;)

Put it this way, 9/10 girls will not mind getting a larger diamond for their engagement ring, and if your gf happens to be the 1 rare one who would rather you save your money and get a smaller diamond, then I would say by virtue of that, she thoroughly deserves a nice big diamond!

No lose situation with going with a larger diamond. Well aside from the hole in your pocket that is :s13:
 

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Hey guys, thanks for the recommendation! JP really has good service and placed a deposit after seeing the diamonds there! Can help me take a look at the photos? Thanks! :)

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I assume your budget is around $3000? If you take an Ideal cut, I think the most you can get is around a low 0.5X diamond. Probably more worthwhile to get the super ideal.

Hey thanks man. Alright, I'll most probably go with the 0.44ct then. You mind taking a look at the scopes if you can see any flaws? They look pretty symmetrical to me, JP super ideal really is good quality.

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Hey thanks man. Alright, I'll most probably go with the 0.44ct then. You mind taking a look at the scopes if you can see any flaws? They look pretty symmetrical to me, JP super ideal really is good quality.

May i give you some alternate suggestion? Try find a ideal within the same budget somewhere along G VS2, see what's the size you can get (I'm guessing 0.55~)

Request the associate to place both the diamonds (0.44 super ideal and your new ideal) in the ring clip and go out to have a walk at few nearby places for lighting and sparkles comparison. If there isn't noticeable differences between the 2...I'll rather you picking the 0.5+, at least it's bigger and it's 'half a carat' and not '0.4', easier for her to tell her friends too when being questioned. haha.
 

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Hey thanks man. Alright, I'll most probably go with the 0.44ct then. You mind taking a look at the scopes if you can see any flaws? They look pretty symmetrical to me, JP super ideal really is good quality.

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The scope looks good! Not too worry if its their super ideal. Their quality is consistent
 

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Guys, I got quoted for $3382.00 from Meyson.

0.51 carat, G, VS2 and GIA certified.
3E/EX heart and arrows.

Comes with the settings already.

any comment on this?


I see that most bros here get from JP. How is Meyson as compared to JP? what are the few reasons where people more oftenly go for JP?
 

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Guys, I got quoted for $3382.00 from Meyson.

0.51 carat, G, VS2 and GIA certified.
3E/EX heart and arrows.

Comes with the settings already.

any comment on this?


I see that most bros here get from JP. How is Meyson as compared to JP? what are the few reasons where people more oftenly go for JP?

Had a not that pleasant experience with Meyson, they kept putting JP down and says their Super ideal are just the same as Meyson hearts and arrow but priced higher. This is not true, I requested for ASET scope to justify their claims of hearts and arrow of Meyson = Super ideal but they declined and said the GIA and sigma cert are enough to justify because 'GIA' is an international lab bla bla bla.

Well to be honest, Meyson is under JP's ideal category but claims to be Super ideal without any prove except talking **** about JP's Super ideal and after sales / upgrade policy.

If you compare JP's ideal price against Meyson's H&A, I believe JP is cheaper with better upgrade policy and free customisation of setting.
 

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Had a not that pleasant experience with Meyson, they kept putting JP down and says their Super ideal are just the same as Meyson hearts and arrow but priced higher. This is not true, I requested for ASET scope to justify their claims of hearts and arrow of Meyson = Super ideal but they declined and said the GIA and sigma cert are enough to justify because 'GIA' is an international lab bla bla bla.

Well to be honest, Meyson is under JP's ideal category but claims to be Super ideal without any prove except talking **** about JP's Super ideal and after sales / upgrade policy.

If you compare JP's ideal price against Meyson's H&A, I believe JP is cheaper with better upgrade policy and free customisation of setting.

I have not yet understand how to read ASET scope. Do you have any good website that explain ASET scope clearly?
 

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Collected my ring yesterday:s12:
Took 7 weeks for the crafting to be completed.
Quality of the ring was excellent!!

Highly recommended JP and Joy for her service=:p
 

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I have not yet understand how to read ASET scope. Do you have any good website that explain ASET scope clearly?

You can watch JP youtube..they got videos explaining it. You can also read online
http://www.pricescope.com/journal/what-aset-reveals-ideal-scope-does-not
http://jannpaul-diamonds-paul.blogspot.dk/2012/07/diamond-buying-aset-or-hca.html
http://yourdiamondteacher.com/diamond-4cs/cut/aset-images-evaluation/

Meyson doesnt sell super ideal cuts. Like kinochoco said, the most is under the ideal category cos they don't use the aset scope. For comparison, my friend got quoted an ideal cut 0.51 G VS1 for $3,000 from jp/hoh. But he bought their super ideal cut category for the better quality.



 

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Collected my ring yesterday:s12:
Took 7 weeks for the crafting to be completed.
Quality of the ring was excellent!!

Highly recommended JP and Joy for her service=:p

Do share pictures of your ring! Haha I just got the pictures for mine too :D:D
Very impressed with how this turned out :o

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Hi guys, have been reading this thread for the past few days.

I have decided to buy online instead. Would like to know your thoughts for these diamonds:

"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.518-e-si1-round-diamond-ags-c-104077891020#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.510-f-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104084591008#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.573-e-si1-round-diamond-ags-c-104073670137#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.510-f-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104084591008#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3710279.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3710279.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3686389.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3686388.htm"

I would greatly appreciate if you could tell me your first and second choice for the above diamonds. Thanks guys!!
 

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Hi guys, have been reading this thread for the past few days.

I have decided to buy online instead. Would like to know your thoughts for these diamonds:

"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.518-e-si1-round-diamond-ags-c-104077891020#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.510-f-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104084591008#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.573-e-si1-round-diamond-ags-c-104073670137#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.510-f-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104084591008#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3710279.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3710279.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3686389.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3686388.htm"

I would greatly appreciate if you could tell me your first and second choice for the above diamonds. Thanks guys!!

Here are my comments regarding your selected diamonds. I have not calculated the HCA scores for any one of them, generally a HCA score of less than 1.5 would indicate a more optimal light return.


Diamond 1 - SI1, would not consider this as may have structural integrity.
Diamond 2 - This has blue florescence, may result in the diamond appearing cloudy. If you want that special effect, this diamond actually looks quite okay.
Diamond 3 - Sold
Diamond 4 - Same link as diamond 2
Diamond 5 - F VS1, no major issues. Would be my 1st choice among this lot
Diamond 6 - Same link as diamond 5
Diamond 7 - F VS1 Multiple incursions on the edges of the diamond, while not big, may affect the structural integrity. If diamond chips it may fall below 0.5 carat weight since it is very close to 0.5, hence significant reduction in value.
Diamond 8 - F VS2 Quite alot of incursions on the face of the diamond, not sure if this will be eye clean. Though if I had to choose this will be second choice.
 

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:eek:Wow 8 prongs!!! Even with 8 prongs the centre diamond still look very big! V unique ring design u have got:D

Haha yea I was quite surprised they were able to come out with this despite the 8 prong setting :s13: What setting did you go for? side diamonds I presume?
 

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88 facets, 8 hearts, 8 arrows, 8 prongs, HUAT AH. Time to buy 4D and toto using the numbers on the AGS cert :s13:
 

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Hi guys, have been reading this thread for the past few days.

I have decided to buy online instead. Would like to know your thoughts for these diamonds:

"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.518-e-si1-round-diamond-ags-c-104077891020#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.510-f-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104084591008#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.573-e-si1-round-diamond-ags-c-104073670137#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.510-f-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104084591008#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3710279.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3710279.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3686389.htm"
"whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3686388.htm"

I would greatly appreciate if you could tell me your first and second choice for the above diamonds. Thanks guys!!

My 2 cents:

Preliminary comments - Brian Gavin Diamonds' Signature Blues all have some degree of blue fluorescence, that's their selling point. They say that all their SB diamonds are specially selected so that the fluorescence does not manifest in any milkiness or haziness though. The advantage is that if you can accept a diamond with blue fluorescence, and pick a H-J color diamond, that exhibits no milkiness/haziness, the fluorescence may cause the diamond to look several color grades higher. The reason why the BGD SB diamonds are popular amongst some buyers is because you can save a lot of money and maximise carat weight for a smaller budget if you pick the right one.

(1) HCA - 1.5. I wouldn't pick this because the cost savings vis-a-vis the other Whiteflash ACA diamonds is not big - around 300 USD.
(2) Not available. Also I would be averse to buying an SI2 online sight unseen. Would be less of an issue if you were a US buyer because of ease of return, but it is too much of a hassle here to gamble on an SI2 unless the dealer can attest that it is eye-clean and is very trustworthy. BGD has a good rep, but I would not want to deal with the hassle on the off chance that their eye-clean is a different definition to mine.
(3) Same diamond as (1)
(4) HCA - 1.2. VS1, inclusion-wise very clean.
(5) Same as (4)
(6) HCA - 0.9. VS1, inclusion-wise very clean.
(7) HCA - 1.2. VS2, visible inclusions and price not much lower than (4) and (6).

Between (4) and (6), not much difference in carat weight, optical symmetry is a bit better on (4), but I doubt anyone can tell the difference with the naked eye. USD 300 cost savings for (6), I'd take (6) personally.
 
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