Proposal Ring - Part 3

[Kkeell]

Then i think best is to walk into a shop together, let her realise how much a 1 ct ring would cost and let her decide if its worth to spend that much money. With 10k, you're probably only looking at low 0.5x CT diamond ring (assuming you're buying from the high end stores). Those other stores can probably give you 0.6x/low 0.7x. if branding not important to her, your budget should be able to get high 0.8x CT diamond ring I think.

if you don't wanna do that but still wanna make her happy then your only option is to up your budget lo. But if you up your budget, what's the point of having it

Ultimately I feel best is to spend within your means and as a couple, decide on where is best to channel your money.

I didn't mind a diamond simulant as I felt better to spend money on our house haha but well, my partner was insistent on a real diamond for engagement ring at least. Initially his budget was $10k. Then he dropped it to $8k and to be honest I felt sad? HAHAHA cuz I couldn't get my 1ct diamond, or even anywhere near it lol.. Bt eventually our chosen diamond has a good meaning behind it, though not super ideal but we're both satisfied with it

So yes, see what you're comfortable with, to involve her or not and decide from there!

She doesn’t want to walk in with me and not open with the idea at all.
Haha have u thought of getting yourself a stimulant than?
I also do Thnk that getting a diamond at more than 10k is not jutisfiable bcuz it has no value.but she has told me from the start of our relationship she wants a 1 carat.
She is even willing to pay for more thing eg, Mayb things for our future home. And she is not even a branded or materialistic person. But I Thnk I the ring ,1 carat is something she wants a lot.

Would you rather up the specs and get the best specs but not 1 carat.
Or get sumthing bigger Mayb still less den 1 carat but specs not as good

 

[Kkeell]

Anybody knows if halo cn still be added on to after the ring is already completely done. Or anybody have your other half not liking the ring and Wan to make upgrades or changes?

 

[havcove]

She doesn’t want to walk in with me and not open with the idea at all.
Haha have u thought of getting yourself a stimulant than?
I also do Thnk that getting a diamond at more than 10k is not jutisfiable bcuz it has no value.but she has told me from the start of our relationship she wants a 1 carat.
She is even willing to pay for more thing eg, Mayb things for our future home. And she is not even a branded or materialistic person. But I Thnk I the ring ,1 carat is something she wants a lot.

Would you rather up the specs and get the best specs but not 1 carat.
Or get sumthing bigger Mayb still less den 1 carat but specs not as good

10k can get 1 carat with side diamonds,.. f color, 3x cut.. maybe not as bling as the jp ones, but then again, she would not know unless she go for diamond lesson..

and if she is so insistent on the >1 carat.. even if you get good specs, you will disappoint her.. so make that a minimum requirement..

 

[smileedee12]

10k can get 1 carat with side diamonds,.. f color, 3x cut.. maybe not as bling as the jp ones, but then again, she would not know unless she go for diamond lesson..

and if she is so insistent on the >1 carat.. even if you get good specs, you will disappoint her.. so make that a minimum requirement..

She might know also if she compares with others' diamond rings!

Maybe can drop to a G if can't find F within 10k.. And yeah agree with this. Since she's insistent on 1ct thn that's the minimum requirement le.. Your ring box buy led box kind or propose at area with lots of light.. Sure bling!

 

[smileedee12]

She doesn’t want to walk in with me and not open with the idea at all.
Haha have u thought of getting yourself a stimulant than?
I also do Thnk that getting a diamond at more than 10k is not jutisfiable bcuz it has no value.but she has told me from the start of our relationship she wants a 1 carat.
She is even willing to pay for more thing eg, Mayb things for our future home. And she is not even a branded or materialistic person. But I Thnk I the ring ,1 carat is something she wants a lot.

Would you rather up the specs and get the best specs but not 1 carat.
Or get sumthing bigger Mayb still less den 1 carat but specs not as good

I wanted to but my SO insists on real diamond.. I suppose it's for his feel good factor

 

[smileedee12]

Anybody knows if halo cn still be added on to after the ring is already completely done. Or anybody have your other half not liking the ring and Wan to make upgrades or changes?

I would think it's possible. Read before where someone upgraded the diamond then old settings can't fit new diamond so need to make changes to the settings. I believe just need to pay for additional materials and diamonds. Best is to check with the seller you're buying from!

 

[Ga Li Kong]

hi all! wanna check the market quote for a 1 carat diamond ring. it can be synthetic or nonsynthetic. thanks!

 

[havcove]

She might know also if she compares with others' diamond rings!

Maybe can drop to a G if can't find F within 10k.. And yeah agree with this. Since she's insistent on 1ct thn that's the minimum requirement le.. Your ring box buy led box kind or propose at area with lots of light.. Sure bling!

good idea!

 

[misstt]

hi all! wanna check the market quote for a 1 carat diamond ring. it can be synthetic or nonsynthetic. thanks!

End June-
JP SIC

1.02 G VS1

$14,100 ( Including 7% GST )

 

[misstt]

Not enough.my 10k Budget is including side diamond setting and gst.

had the same budget.

end June 2018 quote from JP-
Super Ideal Cut:
0.84 G VS1
$8,900

0.82 G VS2
$8,400

both including GST plus your side diamond is agar 10k

i tried asking for a 0.9x cos i want a simple setting but hard to find 0.9x

 

[Kkeell]

had the same budget.

end June 2018 quote from JP-
Super Ideal Cut:
0.84 G VS1
$8,900

0.82 G VS2
$8,400

both including GST plus your side diamond is agar 10k

i tried asking for a 0.9x cos i want a simple setting but hard to find 0.9x

Actually right, if ur partner not diamond expert will
U guys Thnk they really can tell how ideal it is? I honestly don’t think it can be seen from the naked eye from d-g unless u go down and compare or u or other ppl stares at it like go 5-10mins or I don’t Thnk by even staring at it can tell the difference.
Like the biggest and most obvious thing to me is still the carat.
Is like you type a fullstop no matter how much you bold it it is still a fullstop. If you have a jy hao。 u don’t need to bold it it will also look bigger and be more obvious then the fullstop.


And are there really people who would pay for a D bcuz I Thnk it’s not visible that it’s a D and since so white look more like stimulant.
Just my thoughts.

Which did u choose in the end?

 

[Kkeell]

10k can get 1 carat with side diamonds,.. f color, 3x cut.. maybe not as bling as the jp ones, but then again, she would not know unless she go for diamond lesson..

and if she is so insistent on the >1 carat.. even if you get good specs, you will disappoint her.. so make that a minimum requirement..

Fully agree. But will u Thnk u rather get the best for her and Wan the best ? But not 1 carat.cuz u feel it’s too big. And would
U rather up the specs and down the carat bcuz ur frenz Wife actually compare it with their frenz side by side and see which is more bling. despite the fact that your partner told u she don’t it she will compare with her friends?

 

[Kkeell]

I wanted to but my SO insists on real diamond.. I suppose it's for his feel good factor

Do you feel like u cannot accept it. Bcuz it’s not something you Wan and always wanted. Do you feel like u need to buy a 1carat even thou u ordy have a smaller carat bought by ur Husband?
If he stick to the 10k Budget would u buy the 1 carat?

And now that you r not wearing a 1 carat that u wanted have u thought of buying a stimulant for urself and wear that instead of the one ur hubby bought u?

It might sound hurtful but how to do deal with not being able to get what u Wan

 

[havcove]

Fully agree. But will u Thnk u rather get the best for her and Wan the best ? But not 1 carat.cuz u feel it’s too big. And would
U rather up the specs and down the carat bcuz ur frenz Wife actually compare it with their frenz side by side and see which is more bling. despite the fact that your partner told u she don’t it she will compare with her friends?

well one thing i can tell you for sure is that she will definitely compare or her girlfriends will ask to look at it and compare it regardless of whether she initiate the comparison...

if she is so insistent on the carat and you are unable to convince her otherwise or up your budget, you need to sacrifice the other 3c, it is like she ask or insist for a lv, even if you get her a birkin, she would still be unhappy since it is not a lv..

been there, want the best for my wtb as well, best advise i can tell you would be to go for something between 3x cut and JP so called ideal cut. i shortlisted 5 diamonds when i brought it for my wtb, i also want at least 1carat although she does not have this requirement,

all (except for 5) are for above 1carat, f color an up and with pave cathedral setting and certs from aig or ags, price are all in..

1) JP SIC ~ close to 17k
2) JP IC ~ around 13k
3) 3x cut HCA score of 1.2 ~ around 10.5k, decent bling i remember..
4) 3x cut HCA cui (forgot) ~ around 8k
5) JP SIC (G color) ~ around 15k..

i sacrifice my budget for #1 just fyi instead of #5, as mentioned, been in your shoes before so that she will not get the comment your htb only got you a near colorless diamond instead of a colorless...

 

[misstt]

Actually right, if ur partner not diamond expert will
U guys Thnk they really can tell how ideal it is? I honestly don’t think it can be seen from the naked eye from d-g unless u go down and compare or u or other ppl stares at it like go 5-10mins or I don’t Thnk by even staring at it can tell the difference.
Like the biggest and most obvious thing to me is still the carat.
Is like you type a fullstop no matter how much you bold it it is still a fullstop. If you have a jy hao。 u don’t need to bold it it will also look bigger and be more obvious then the fullstop.


And are there really people who would pay for a D bcuz I Thnk it’s not visible that it’s a D and since so white look more like stimulant.
Just my thoughts.

Which did u choose in the end?

Personally I can only tell the colour diff when I look from the bottom but i think that once the diamond is set, a G colour and a D colour will look extremely similar (esp once you leave the shop/ over time diamond collect dirt/ not comparing side by side)

For cut, iirc the diff between a super ideal and ideal cut from JP is only few hundred (max 1k) and for that cost, i'd much rather get a better cut since it affects the overall 'bling'.

I definitely agree that carat is the most important but cannot be too easy on the other Cs also. i have seen a poor 0.5x D VS1 that my friend bought for 2.7k from some no-name shop.... the carat, clarity and colour is decent but the bling worse than 77 street. So yea you must balance carat and cut.

based on your few posts, i think im in a similar situation as you. I want a bigger stone (and still within budget) but my partner thinks it is 'too big/ loud' for my finger. End up we both unhappy and decided to hold on choosing a ring since we dont want either one to be unhappy about such a purchase.

at the end of the day, the ring is not worn by you. what you feel about it (too big, looks fake, too white, too small, etc) all really doesnt matter very much. the person wearing it should have more say- do you want your partner to always feel sian for not getting what she wants?

if your partner so bent on getting a big rock to the point of wanting to buy a stimulant instead of wearing the smaller one you got her, then its obvious you dont have much room to nego about the carat already... just drop the other 3 all the way and buy from no-name shops

 

[theblueark]

Gotta list down your priorities and see what’s possible. What’s a must have and what’s good to have. From what I see from what you’ve said so far, your SO’s priorities are:

MUST have
1. 1ct or more
2. Below $10k

Good to have
3. Diamond
4. Colour
5. Cut
6. Clarity
7. Brand

Then you try to find out or sit down and discuss with her what she’s willing to cut down on in order to hit the MUST have.

The biggest price cut is if you willing to go for another material. Moissanite is an excellent option. If she’s ok with moissanite you can easily get 1ct below 10k.

Next biggest is probably colour. Someone here got a grey diamond. Since its perceived value is lower, should be much cheaper.

Play around a bit with the balance on each item, compromise a bit on each, colour reduce a bit, cut a bit lousier, got some occlusions, etc.

But if her MUST is everything is good. Then no choice la the price sure go up mah.

Girls maybe will compare but got so many things to compare. Mine bigger but yellower, yours smaller but more sparkle. Hers very small but Tiffany and co. Ok mah each person got their own good point.

 

[Kkeell]

well one thing i can tell you for sure is that she will definitely compare or her girlfriends will ask to look at it and compare it regardless of whether she initiate the comparison...

if she is so insistent on the carat and you are unable to convince her otherwise or up your budget, you need to sacrifice the other 3c, it is like she ask or insist for a lv, even if you get her a birkin, she would still be unhappy since it is not a lv..

been there, want the best for my wtb as well, best advise i can tell you would be to go for something between 3x cut and JP so called ideal cut. i shortlisted 5 diamonds when i brought it for my wtb, i also want at least 1carat although she does not have this requirement,

all (except for 5) are for above 1carat, f color an up and with pave cathedral setting and certs from aig or ags, price are all in..

1) JP SIC ~ close to 17k
2) JP IC ~ around 13k
3) 3x cut HCA score of 1.2 ~ around 10.5k, decent bling i remember..
4) 3x cut HCA cui (forgot) ~ around 8k
5) JP SIC (G color) ~ around 15k..

i sacrifice my budget for #1 just fyi instead of #5, as mentioned, been in your shoes before so that she will not get the comment your htb only got you a near colorless diamond instead of a colorless...

Woah sounds like u sacrifice a lot more then your Budget. During the process have u ever thought is not justifiable bcuz it has got no value. Or it did occur to you but she wasn’t gg to trade it off anyway.
She never mentioned about all the specs and she is not diamond expert in anyways. Only mentioned Bling and 1 carat.
But I thought of giving her the best and 1 carat might b too big and I’m not a high income earner so I do have the concern of ppl thnking it’s fake. However I do want the best for her.

 

[Kkeell]

well one thing i can tell you for sure is that she will definitely compare or her girlfriends will ask to look at it and compare it regardless of whether she initiate the comparison...

if she is so insistent on the carat and you are unable to convince her otherwise or up your budget, you need to sacrifice the other 3c, it is like she ask or insist for a lv, even if you get her a birkin, she would still be unhappy since it is not a lv..

been there, want the best for my wtb as well, best advise i can tell you would be to go for something between 3x cut and JP so called ideal cut. i shortlisted 5 diamonds when i brought it for my wtb, i also want at least 1carat although she does not have this requirement,

all (except for 5) are for above 1carat, f color an up and with pave cathedral setting and certs from aig or ags, price are all in..

1) JP SIC ~ close to 17k
2) JP IC ~ around 13k
3) 3x cut HCA score of 1.2 ~ around 10.5k, decent bling i remember..
4) 3x cut HCA cui (forgot) ~ around 8k
5) JP SIC (G color) ~ around 15k..

i sacrifice my budget for #1 just fyi instead of #5, as mentioned, been in your shoes before so that she will not get the comment your htb only got you a near colorless diamond instead of a colorless...

Fully agree with ur lv and birkin description really totally.

 

[Kkeell]

Personally I can only tell the colour diff when I look from the bottom but i think that once the diamond is set, a G colour and a D colour will look extremely similar (esp once you leave the shop/ over time diamond collect dirt/ not comparing side by side)

For cut, iirc the diff between a super ideal and ideal cut from JP is only few hundred (max 1k) and for that cost, i'd much rather get a better cut since it affects the overall 'bling'.

I definitely agree that carat is the most important but cannot be too easy on the other Cs also. i have seen a poor 0.5x D VS1 that my friend bought for 2.7k from some no-name shop.... the carat, clarity and colour is decent but the bling worse than 77 street. So yea you must balance carat and cut.

based on your few posts, i think im in a similar situation as you. I want a bigger stone (and still within budget) but my partner thinks it is 'too big/ loud' for my finger. End up we both unhappy and decided to hold on choosing a ring since we dont want either one to be unhappy about such a purchase.

at the end of the day, the ring is not worn by you. what you feel about it (too big, looks fake, too white, too small, etc) all really doesnt matter very much. the person wearing it should have more say- do you want your partner to always feel sian for not getting what she wants?

if your partner so bent on getting a big rock to the point of wanting to buy a stimulant instead of wearing the smaller one you got her, then its obvious you dont have much room to nego about the carat already... just drop the other 3 all the way and buy from no-name shops

Fully agree with u. Really.
I really don’t understnd the huge price jump between the clrs when they r not even prominent of obvious.
For the price diff between D -G rather up the carat den pay for a D.
How about saying are ppl even really interested in the scopes.bcuz I don’t Thnk is neccasary it is like as Long as under normal light is bling and not very yellow is ok I feel.
Like u mentioned it’s set on the band also cannot really see.feel like buy D is paying money for sumthing on paper that I won’t be carried out and kept in drawer and the thing worn on the finger 24/7 that you r gg to look at will Juz b like any DEFG so the extra 1k diff pay for paper no offence to others. Is just my personal opinion.
Since they do have it ppl do buy them

 

[Kkeell]

Personally I can only tell the colour diff when I look from the bottom but i think that once the diamond is set, a G colour and a D colour will look extremely similar (esp once you leave the shop/ over time diamond collect dirt/ not comparing side by side)

For cut, iirc the diff between a super ideal and ideal cut from JP is only few hundred (max 1k) and for that cost, i'd much rather get a better cut since it affects the overall 'bling'.

I definitely agree that carat is the most important but cannot be too easy on the other Cs also. i have seen a poor 0.5x D VS1 that my friend bought for 2.7k from some no-name shop.... the carat, clarity and colour is decent but the bling worse than 77 street. So yea you must balance carat and cut.

based on your few posts, i think im in a similar situation as you. I want a bigger stone (and still within budget) but my partner thinks it is 'too big/ loud' for my finger. End up we both unhappy and decided to hold on choosing a ring since we dont want either one to be unhappy about such a purchase.

at the end of the day, the ring is not worn by you. what you feel about it (too big, looks fake, too white, too small, etc) all really doesnt matter very much. the person wearing it should have more say- do you want your partner to always feel sian for not getting what she wants?

if your partner so bent on getting a big rock to the point of wanting to buy a stimulant instead of wearing the smaller one you got her, then its obvious you dont have much room to nego about the carat already... just drop the other 3 all the way and buy from no-name shops

Ya and really I feel is just what she likes that matters hahaha.she gg to c it Everyday not me. And no she didn’t ask for branded.