Proposal Ring - Part 3

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anyone getting a diamond ring from JannPaul? if the diamond u selected is more than $11.3k do pm me, I can trade in my existing JP diamond ring for your selected diamond. pm me to discuss on the discount you expected. Thanks!
 
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Decided not to go JP as I was quoted $4,200 for .51, E, VVS2, whereas i found another place that's selling me $2,800 for .51, D, VVS2.

Care to share where's another place? The price difference so big. Did you consider other qualities and characteristics of the diamond from the other place?
 

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Of cos every retailer will spend time with their potential buyer. But why is it so many forumers highly recommend Jann Paul here? Surely they are doing something right that other retailers are not.

And just because someone say something good about a company doesn’t mean that they work for that company. Just like NAS Daily. He say good things about Singapore and everyone accused him of taking money from the Govt. Come on lah. Time to get your head out of the mud. Not everyone have a hidden agenda here. Some people say good things about other company because they really experienced good service and want to share with others. I would expect someone like you to understand this.

Recommend is one thing, shoving your own 2 cents into the mouths of others like what you are doing now is another that i don't understand.
 

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0.57 VVS1 G is Naked eye clean. If your gf is looking for size then sure get the bigger carat. But if possible, compare both side by side and see if the 0.07c makes such a big face up difference. I suspect not.

Do you have details about their Cuts? Their light performance?

Visually both look similar, hardly tell which is 0.5 and which is 0.57.
Cuts and light performance also similar.

Boils down to to the GIA cert when she is looking at it.
Does 0.5 IF or 0.57 VVS1 appear better? hahaha
 

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Visually both look similar, hardly tell which is 0.5 and which is 0.57.
Cuts and light performance also similar.

Boils down to to the GIA cert when she is looking at it.
Does 0.5 IF or 0.57 VVS1 appear better? hahaha

What are the VVS1 inclusions listed on the GIA?
If it's minor and even under magnification hard to spot those inclusions. Naked eye, definitely can't tell IF or VVS1 and won't affect it's brilliance and sparkle. Take the 0.57 VVS1. ;)

F and G colour also not such a big difference. Personally I could tell the difference between DEF vs GHI. But that's when you put them side by side.
 
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Hi anyone know if i have 4.8k$ for diamond exclude setting.
How many carat i can aim for? For super ideal cut

I bought my gf's engagement ring from Fonder Diamond.
I took a quick browse on their online database and I think you can aim for a 0.6ct F VVS2.

The engagement ring I got for your reference.
Pardon video quality, no magnification with iPhone only. ;)
 
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What are the VVS1 inclusions listed on the GIA?
If it's minor and even under magnification hard to spot those inclusions. Naked eye, definitely can't tell IF or VVS1 and won't affect it's brilliance and sparkle. Take the 0.57 VVS1. ;)

F and G colour also not such a big difference. Personally I could tell the difference between DEF vs GHI. But that's when you put them side by side.

VVS1 inclusion has a spot somewhere in the middle.

My point is, the cert doesn't lie, we're all buying the GIA cert actually, hahaha...

My sales person did recommend that i get the 0.5 IF, on paper it is the top of the scale next to being totally flawless.
 

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VVS1 inclusion has a spot somewhere in the middle.

My point is, the cert doesn't lie, we're all buying the GIA cert actually, hahaha...

My sales person did recommend that i get the 0.5 IF, on paper it is the top of the scale next to being totally flawless.

IF is indeed second in the scale. FLawless being top.
VVS1 is just 1 grade lower than IF but a spot in the middle could very very slightly affect how the diamond looks.

GIA cert definitely won't lie. But more of whether is it worth to get IF for a 0.5ct. It's ultimately your call on value and balance between colour, clarity, carat. ;)
 
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Hello smileedee12, wondering if you have collected the your end-product? Saw the 3D render images you shared, does the final product look exactly the same?
Feel that the colour of the render images look more ‘darker/greying ’, would like to ask if the final product look more ‘fair’. Thanks for your advice!

Hi there. I beg to differ, though I didn't pop by many stores. Bf and I walked around stores looking at both their diamond rings and wedding rings. We started off with Tiff&Co and Cartier. Tiff&Co made me feel like I was at a factory store. Sorry, lacking of words on how to explain better. Cartier only cared about how much budget you could set aside. If I asked to see something of a bigger carat or obviously more expensive, they were reluctant to take it out. Pity though as I thought there was a pair of wedding bands which we liked but due to service not being there, we won't be ever heading back.
Goldheart.. Just couldn't care less..? "I'll take out whatever you want to see." At least can answer when I had question..
Love&Co was really friendly and I felt good atmosphere throughout :) They allowed to view the diamond's arrows but couldn't see the hearts as the diamonds were already set. The arrows weren't that fantastic but I thought as long as the diamond sparkles, that's all that matters. Sadly, I couldn't compare the diamond rings even outside the store.. They have nice wedding pillow then! Haha
There was a wedding band I saw online from SK jewelry which I thought was really lovely so we visited the shop. Indeed, I really loved the whole outlook of it. However, the guy who attended to us was jst very unwelcoming especially after we told him we weren't engaged yet but soon.. And then, the whole time was black face. I stayed long because I really wanted to keep looking at the ring as if to drop hint hahahahha but I really couldn't lol.. And bf said we're not gonna consider to buy from them because the customer service really wasn't there..
Meyson was friendly up till the point when they ask what other shops we've visited. Then they like to bash these shops and sing praises for the ones sold in meyson lol. Pity though as their rings are nice but I don't like bashings.
Common thing among all these shops are that they don't allow pics to be taken (except for cartier) but at least they'll write the model number and price for us.. But I can't picture it when I bring it home that day lol and they also don't allow to bring the diamond/ring outside the shop to view under natural lighting, which I felt was really a pity. And really, their focus is just in the 4Cs. And they'll add on that their diamonds have perfect cut/hearts & arrows but they don't let you verify.?
Then we went to JP and the customer service was just amazing that even bf could not refuse. We only got ideal range though as we felt no need to be "so perfect" and in any case, need to keep within budget :p bf wanted to settle wedding ring then also but our salesperson said to do it after our engagement ring was done, in case I wanted to find a matching ring with it or one which can flush tgt..
Oh we also went to venus tears.. Service was excellent, I believe I could even view 80% of the rings on display HAHAHAHA but none of the diamond rings spoke to me. Their wedding rings were lovely though :) bf eyed one but I liked another one so hoping he would change his mind over the next few months xD

Anyway, don't keep thinking the people here are staffs from JP. You should try go JP, at least get the free diamond education. Really, they won't force you to buy anything. You can even leave after having the education and buy from one of the b&m stores.. But make it your last diamond shop bah

You can check YouTube and maybe even articles. Try to avoid flat carat weights like 0.5 CT. Paying premium for a D colour and IF clarity is not worth especially if the difference between D vs F or even G colour and IF vs VS2 clarity are unnoticeable to the naked eye. For VS1 and 2, probably need to check if eye clean and if there are durability issues eg feather across the girdle. Best bang for buck would be a F VS2 or G VS2 if you aren't colour sensitive. Then just up the carat to one you're comfortable with within your budget :)
 

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VVS1 inclusion has a spot somewhere in the middle.

My point is, the cert doesn't lie, we're all buying the GIA cert actually, hahaha...

My sales person did recommend that i get the 0.5 IF, on paper it is the top of the scale next to being totally flawless.

If buying cert then ya, probably don’t bother go JP. Their theory is that the cert doesn’t show everything, so their target is ppl who subscribe to that. Not for everyone la.
 

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If buying cert then ya, probably don’t bother go JP. Their theory is that the cert doesn’t show everything, so their target is ppl who subscribe to that. Not for everyone la.

Well, exactly what i meant.
No matter where we get the diamond from, the only way to authenticate what we buy is through the cert :(

The woman who wears the ring can't tell anything about the 4Cs without the cert.

Online discussion is just banter for us to make or justify our decision on which cert to buy... lol..
 

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VVS1 inclusion has a spot somewhere in the middle.

My point is, the cert doesn't lie, we're all buying the GIA cert actually, hahaha...

My sales person did recommend that i get the 0.5 IF, on paper it is the top of the scale next to being totally flawless.

GIA cert doesn’t lie. It’s just that it doesn’t reveal everything. The info on GIA is very very basic. It says nothing about how the light performance, etc. I give you an example. Say you buy a 0.5ct D IF, everything all top grades. If the diamond have a weak light return, a 0.5 G VS2 that have better light performance will still look better and brighter, and might even cost cheaper since the grades are lower.

It’s just see you want it to be certificate look good or diamond look good.
 

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Recommend is one thing, shoving your own 2 cents into the mouths of others like what you are doing now is another that i don't understand.

Where did I shove my 2 cents into the mouth of others? (If I want to shove my 2 cents, I’ll shove it up your *that thing that I cannot mention in this forum*)

Tell you nicely, you become defensive and anyhowly accuse people. Don’t understand how the heck did HWZ Forum get Senior Mod like you.
 

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Care to share where's another place? The price difference so big. Did you consider other qualities and characteristics of the diamond from the other place?

It's actually a Thai shop. I'm heading down to see the actual diamond before purchasing.

But I did all the necessary checks similar to JP such as HCA scoring, triple excellent in GIA cert, symmetrical hearts and arrows.
 

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GIA cert doesn’t lie. It’s just that it doesn’t reveal everything. The info on GIA is very very basic. It says nothing about how the light performance, etc. I give you an example. Say you buy a 0.5ct D IF, everything all top grades. If the diamond have a weak light return, a 0.5 G VS2 that have better light performance will still look better and brighter, and might even cost cheaper since the grades are lower.

It’s just see you want it to be certificate look good or diamond look good.

I check GIA info first, then HCA scores.
That should give an indication of how good the stone is.
Its all about balance between these and pricing, haha...
 

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Where did I shove my 2 cents into the mouth of others? (If I want to shove my 2 cents, I’ll shove it up your *that thing that I cannot mention in this forum*)

Tell you nicely, you become defensive and anyhowly accuse people. Don’t understand how the heck did HWZ Forum get Senior Mod like you.

From start till now my topic has been about the diamond itself, you are the one to bring in retailer names down everyone's *that thing that cannot mention in this forum*

Say some more lah...
 

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You come this thread ask for advice then so stuck up, act like you know everything.

So Mr. Jedi Master, why not just go through all the online sites set 0.50, D color, FL and buy the cheapest? Ask for advice for what?

I personally went to almost every jewelry shop in Singapore (yes, even Tiffany and co, Cartier) and I still went back to JP. Not because they are the only one that spent time with me, but they provide the most value for money diamond in my budget.

(If you need me to show you my staff pass to prove I’m not working in JP, kindly pm me)

From start till now my topic has been about the diamond itself, you are the one to bring in retailer names down everyone's *that thing that cannot mention in this forum*

Say some more lah...
 

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You come this thread ask for advice then so stuck up, act like you know everything.

So Mr. Jedi Master, why not just go through all the online sites set 0.50, D color, FL and buy the cheapest? Ask for advice for what?

I personally went to almost every jewelry shop in Singapore (yes, even Tiffany and co, Cartier) and I still went back to JP. Not because they are the only one that spent time with me, but they provide the most value for money diamond in my budget.

(If you need me to show you my staff pass to prove I’m not working in JP, kindly pm me)

Another one...

I did my own research, came in and asked for opinion on my 2 choices of stone and getting it finished by a private jeweller but you fellas keep asking me to get an education at JP?

Everyone has their rights where to buy, this is not a JP ONLY discussion, let's get this clear.
 

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From start till now my topic has been about the diamond itself, you are the one to bring in retailer names down everyone's *that thing that cannot mention in this forum*

Say some more lah...

You go read back what you post. When someone said something good about JP, you accuse that person for working at that company. Then when I say JP is doing something right that why got so much fans here, you come say I shove 2 cents into others mouth.

You got problem reading is it?
 
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