Proposal Ring - Part 3

[Miltah]

My budget is about S$3-3.5 for the diamond. I believe in size(carat) and sparkle(cut) matters more than anything else. So colour and clarity will be my least concern.
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Sure, I could have a look. But assuming u want to stick to at least 0.7c, u will note that the options I suggested are already H and I, hitting at least $4k with enough budget to set the ring locally.

$3.5k is not really do-able unless u willing to accept J and K. These colors are more noticeable and u might only be able to get away with it if you plan on using yellow gold. Those colors are below my own tolerance so I can’t speak for u

This is where color is subjective. I suggest u pop into any jewellery store and ask to see those colors to guage your tolerance level.

 

[lance88]

@Miltah

I am very inclined about getting the stone from an online retailer i.e, whiteflash.com as you recommended.

My budget is about S$3-3.5 for the diamond. I believe in size(carat) and sparkle(cut) matters more than anything else. So colour and clarity will be my least concern.

There are just too many in that range when i did a search on the website and I am not sure which one will be the best choice.

Perhaps you can share your suggestion for my requirement?

I think this budget is around 0.65 3ex or 0.45 SIC? assuming colorless range D-F, clarity vs2

 

[BuaySaiHippo]

Sure, I could have a look. But assuming u want to stick to at least 0.7c, u will note that the options I suggested are already H and I, hitting at least $4k with enough budget to set the ring locally.

$3.5k is not really do-able unless u willing to accept J and K. These colors are more noticeable and u might only be able to get away with it if you plan on using yellow gold. Those colors are below my own tolerance so I can’t speak for u

This is where color is subjective. I suggest u pop into any jewellery store and ask to see those colors to guage your tolerance level.

I think lowest I can go will be I for the color. Will color of the diamond affect its sparkle?
Not sure how big the carat can go if we look into the I color range for the same mentioned budget.

You are right. Perhaps I should take a physical look on those color range to make a better judgement.

 

[KinoChoco]

I think lowest I can go will be I for the color. Will color of the diamond affect its sparkle?
Not sure how big the carat can go if we look into the I color range for the same mentioned budget.

You are right. Perhaps I should take a physical look on those color range to make a better judgement.

I'll suggest u take a look at the color first, IMO, having a yellow sparking diamond doesnt really look appealing. You can already notice tint of yellowness at G color, I is really very noticeable yellow. (do double confirm with your partner on this)

Can try this - H color tho. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4089734.htm

 

[DriftKing]

Unless you can find it at HOH.
If not, your only option is the online route with G, H, I color with clarity VS2 and SI1. And ring setting done locally. I can find u cheaper but u will sacrifice cut

0.71 I VS2 $4100 (gst added, delivered)
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4081336.htm

0.72 H SI1 $4280 (gst added, delivered)
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4089751.htm

0.7 G SI1 $4500 (gst added, delivered)
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4063417.htm

Hello sensei, for these 3 rocks are they sacrificed in cutting in anyway? I'm look at those scope images it seems they are pretty close to those JP's super ideal? With local setting how much would it adds up ? Much appreciated!

 

[KinoChoco]

Hello sensei, for these 3 rocks are they sacrificed in cutting in anyway? I'm look at those scope images it seems they are pretty close to those JP's super ideal? With local setting how much would it adds up ? Much appreciated!

Setting depends on design (amount of material used), the simplest without side diamond should be around 500-600, with side melee diamonds about 1100-1500 depends on the thickness of the side diamonds.

They are close to super ideal, but not the exactly the same, maybe just 5-10% differences in real life performance which might not be noticeable in real life situation, however beware of the color, not many people can endure H/I color, it's safer to stay within D-F and G (upon partner approved haha)

 

[Miltah]

They are not the same. This is the ASET of the first stone. Its the cheapest but I would rule it out due to the painting/digging. Would u see it in real live? Maybe yes, maybe no.

The second and last stone would be a toss up, but as the ASET is on a black background, it’s harder to tell. But the performance difference would be less noticeable. However, on paper it’s not as perfect as a JP SIC

Hello sensei, for these 3 rocks are they sacrificed in cutting in anyway? I'm look at those scope images it seems they are pretty close to those JP's super ideal? With local setting how much would it adds up ? Much appreciated!

 

[DriftKing]

They are not the same. This is the ASET of the first stone. Its the cheapest but I would rule it due to the painting/digging. Would u see it in real live? Maybe yes, maybe no.

The second and last stone would be a toss up, but as the ASET is on a black background, it’s harder to tell. But the performance difference would be less noticeable. However, on paper it’s not as perfect as a JP SIC

Thanks! In comparison, for a comparable JP SIC, how much would it cost from JP?

I'm thinking 0.7ish, at least with that quality of cut that you've shown, color wise I'll need to look at how different are E-H (especially G and H).. in layman terms, any other factors to lookout for?

 

[KinoChoco]

Thanks! In comparison, for a comparable JP SIC, how much would it cost from JP?

I'm thinking 0.7ish, at least with that quality of cut that you've shown, color wise I'll need to look at how different are E-H (especially G and H).. in layman terms, any other factors to lookout for?

You should actually compare WF's ACA to JP (HOH)'s ideal cut.

They are probably closer in terms of quality, pricing wise it's best u head down or shoot an email in to check for the latest pricing.

 

[Miltah]

Thanks! In comparison, for a comparable JP SIC, how much would it cost from JP?

I'm thinking 0.7ish, at least with that quality of cut that you've shown, color wise I'll need to look at how different are E-H (especially G and H).. in layman terms, any other factors to lookout for?

If you getting a JP SIC, there is no need to bother abt factors. It’s all vetted for u.
Someone posted earlier in jan, 0.77 G VVS2 (SIC) for $7.7k

 

[Miltah]

You should actually compare WF's ACA to JP (HOH)'s ideal.

I would disagree.
If you look at past threads, there will be scope images of HOH ideal cuts that look worse than WF ACA and some that are better.
I will agree that there is variation in WF ACA whereby some are closer to HOH ideals but you will also find some that are closer to a JP SIC. You just need the time and effort to look for it (that’s also assuming u enjoy looking)

 

[KinoChoco]

I would disagree.
If you look at past threads, there will be scope images of HOH ideal cuts that look worse than WF ACA and some that are better.
I will agree that there is variation in WF ACA whereby some are closer to HOH ideals but you will also find some that are closer to a JP SIC. You just need the time and effort to look for it (that’s also assuming u enjoy looking)

basically range of high ideal or average ideal lor, i mentioned ideal is also because being able get below G color and SI 1 for easier comparison haha. Anyway JP's SIC are all better than ACA, but as for ideal vs ACA, some win, some lose, this is also why i think it's a better comparison

 

[Miltah]

, i mentioned ideal is also because being able get below G color and SI 1 for easier comparison haha. Anyway JP's SIC are all better than ACA, but as for ideal vs ACA, some win, some lose, this is also why i think it's a better comparison

Getting below G and SI1 is a preference for color and clarity but it has nothing to do with cut, would u not agree.

If we are talking about cut, then it should be a comparison of ASET (for light performance ) n idealscope (for symmetry). In a blinded test, would u be able to pick out a non JP SIC ASET?

 

[Sushilicious]

Finally got the time to upload my ring photos. Its a Super Ideal Cut from JP, 0.54 G V1. Been playing around with the camera and torchlight to capture the bling. Tried to capture the reflection of the diamonds. haha

Thumbs up for Avery in making the whole process smooth and easy.
I shall say it is indeed technical but she made me understand it in a way that was easy. She even suggested to me some potential proposal spots in Korea when I casually mentioned my plan to do it overseas. Didn't expect that from her at all. Their customer services is another level.

 

[Maccabi]

Can help grade? Thanks

 

[gingerhoney]

I'll suggest u take a look at the color first, IMO, having a yellow sparking diamond doesnt really look appealing. You can already notice tint of yellowness at G color, I is really very noticeable yellow. (do double confirm with your partner on this)

Hmm.. my diamond is an I colour but many commented totally cannot tell is an I colour in real life..

Spoiler

 

[Miltah]

Hmm.. my diamond is an I colour but many commented totally cannot tell is an I colour in real life..

Spoiler

I’m with you there.
Just gotta count ourselves lucky for not being color sensitive

 

[Miltah]

Can help grade? Thanks

It’s top of the line.

 

[KinoChoco]

I’m with you there.
Just gotta count ourselves lucky for not being color sensitive

Damn, I can even see tintness on F color even on a SIC. But it really depends on the lighting. Am too color sensitive

 

[Miltah]

Finally got the time to upload my ring photos. Its a Super Ideal Cut from JP, 0.54 G V1. Been playing around with the camera and torchlight to capture the bling. Tried to capture the reflection of the diamonds. haha

Nice photos. Well taken