Proposal Ring - Part 3

[damagpie]

Thanks Miltah, the Whiteflash salesperson actually claimed that the diamonds were hearts and arrows...

Do you mind doing a comparison for these BG stones? Perhaps give me your views on the ranking you would place on these 4. The first one would probably be my preferred stone in terms of price and spec (H is my minimum colour requirement, would have preferred G but the G is SI1...)

briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.057-h-vs1-cushion-diamond-ags-c-104105165003

briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104105165007

briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104103128002

briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104104700006

 

[Miltah]

Thanks Miltah, the Whiteflash salesperson actually claimed that the diamonds were hearts and arrows...

Do you mind doing a comparison for these BG stones?

That’s BS from whiteflash. They dun even have the stone, how can they confirm it’s a H&Arrow.

BG stones. Other than the first one, the rest of the links are all cut short. Perhaps u put the ct/color/clarity and I’ll go look for it on their site.
Or u can PM me, whichever

 

[damagpie]

Hi Miltah,

For the benefit of public (and since there is little postings on cushions on this forum) maybe put it on forum first

Below the 3 other links!

briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.015-g-si1-cushion-diamond-ags-c-104105165007

briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.073-h-vs2-cushion-diamond-ags-c-104103128002

briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.075-h-vs1-cushion-diamond-ags-c-104104700006

 

[damagpie]

Oh btw Miltah,

Based on the AGS number in Whiteflash, the diamond appears to be hearts and arrows?

agslab.com/ym-vdgr/diamonds/104099343011/grading-report

agslab.com/ym-vdgr/diamonds/104099343019/grading-report

For the second link, it seems like the Aset scope is very good?

 

[Miltah]

Oh btw Miltah,

Based on the AGS number in Whiteflash, the diamond appears to be hearts and arrows?

agslab.com/ym-vdgr/diamonds/104099343011/grading-report

agslab.com/ym-vdgr/diamonds/104099343019/grading-report

For the second link, it seems like the Aset scope is very good?

A computer generated image does not equate to very good ASET.
Of cos that’s still better than none. At least it’s a triple 0

I did also say it’s cut deep which is normal for cushion with the whiteflash at 67-68% depth.
As compared to the BGD cushion cut, the whiteflash ones will be smaller for a comparative weight/caret

 

[damagpie]

Yeah, I am also doubtful of the computer generated ASET.

I think i prefer to stick to BG stones, looking forward to your analysis!

Btw is the BG signature cut able to match the Brellia by JP? Or the Black series is the one equal to Brellia?

 

[damagpie]

@Miltah - tried to PM you re the free delivery but I was not able to as I did not have enough posts!

 

[Miltah]

For the benefit of public (and since there is little postings on cushions on this forum) maybe put it on forum first

Prices exclude 10% discount code n gst

1. 1.057 H VS1 sg$7886, most consistent

2. 1.015 G SI1 $7935.
Basically trade color for clarity. Very small ?needle/feather near the edge but most inclusions are on the table. If eye clean could be good. But if I can live with H, I’ll take the lower color in this instance.

3. 1.075 H VS1 $8493 table 54.5 Depth 61.1
4. 1.073 H VS2 $8357 table 50.2 Depth 62.8

These 2 stones comes down to preference. The last stone has slight asymmetry but it’s probably one with the most fire of the 4. Some would even pick the last or fourth stone over all the other 3

The Blacks are more consistent.

Same as JP? Hmm, if u can’t tell the difference between a normal cushion vs a H&A, chances are u won’t know the difference.
JP vs BG cushion - the difference is in the girdle. Edge to JP

 

[jonleelk]

bro

Black by BG is better than their H&A Round, correct?

Prices exclude 10% discount code n gst

1. 1.057 H VS1 sg$7886, most consistent

2. 1.015 G SI1 $7935.
Basically trade color for clarity. Very small ?needle/feather near the edge but most inclusions are on the table. If eye clean could be good. But if I can live with H, I’ll take the lower color in this instance.

3. 1.075 H VS1 $8493 table 54.5 Depth 61.1
4. 1.073 H VS2 $8357 table 50.2 Depth 62.8

These 2 stones comes down to preference. The last stone has slight asymmetry but it’s probably one with the most fire of the 4. Some would even pick the last or fourth stone over all the other 3

The Blacks are more consistent.

Same as JP? Hmm, if u can’t tell the difference between a normal cushion vs a H&A, chances are u won’t know the difference.
JP vs BG cushion - the difference is in the girdle. Edge to JP

 

[Miltah]

bro

Black by BG is better than their H&A Round, correct?

Theoretically yes. Factually not always

Their signature H&A presents very good value when there’s a discount (like now till end June).

 

[flickerooni]

Can I ask which jeweller is this so I never go.
Both stones are horrible. Bad proportions, cut deep, non complementary angles.

HCA only got 3 tries. N they might be doing some upgrading or maintenance works on the site

Thanks Miltah, it's a store at Delfi Orchard ground floor. Will pm you once I hit post count.
Currently looking at GIA 5326777650

 

[chrisleenoodle]

Thanks Miltah, will pm you.
Currently looking at GIA 5326777650

You can try checking the GIA number with JP. They might have access to it too and do a price check. Ive been liaising with Joy with some diamond numbers from James Allen and White Flash. They got those same diamonds too and priced it cheaper. Though dont expect them to be Super Ideals.

I can ask for you if u want

 

[flickerooni]

You can try checking the GIA number with JP. They might have access to it too and do a price check. Ive been liaising with Joy with some diamond numbers from James Allen and White Flash. They got those same diamonds too and priced it cheaper. Though dont expect them to be Super Ideals.

I can ask for you if u want

Thanks, that will be great.
Didn't realise JP sells anything besides SICs.

Unfortunately when you're playing with a budget, you need to compromise on something.

 

[Miltah]

Thanks, that will be great.
Didn't realise JP sells anything besides SICs.

Unfortunately when you're playing with a budget, you need to compromise on something.

They dun. Taking it in for u does not equate to the same thing.

Vetting a stone takes time. Taking scope images takes time and money. Even JP can’t take in vetted in-house stones by whiteflash but they have access to likely the virtual inventory which is like any other dropshippers

You stone has potential but again u understand that u will be compromising something if u just base it on numbers.

 

[damagpie]

Thanks Miltah. My first choice in line with yours and trying to get the real ASET scope from BG first.

Are there anything else I need to ask BG for? How do I check HCA and Sarin?

 

[damagpie]

You can try checking the GIA number with JP. They might have access to it too and do a price check. Ive been liaising with Joy with some diamond numbers from James Allen and White Flash. They got those same diamonds too and priced it cheaper. Though dont expect them to be Super Ideals.

I can ask for you if u want

Wow, how much lower does JP bring in instead of going through Whiteflash?

 

[KinoChoco]

Wow, how much lower does JP bring in instead of going through Whiteflash?

Enough for you to purchase it locally instead of online, even if it’s the same price, at least u get to see the stone locally, cheaper setting, free aftercare services without shipping back to US.

However these only applies to certain stock where it’s virtual inventory that’s open to most diamond sellers, JP simply mark up lesser than WF to get your business

 

[chrisleenoodle]

You can try checking the GIA number with JP. They might have access to it too and do a price check. Ive been liaising with Joy with some diamond numbers from James Allen and White Flash. They got those same diamonds too and priced it cheaper. Though dont expect them to be Super Ideals.

I can ask for you if u want

Thanks Miltah, it's a store at Delfi Orchard ground floor. Will pm you once I hit post count.
Currently looking at GIA 5326777650

I asked for you liao.

Hi -----,

Thank you for sharing this diamond with us.

This diamond has better proportions compared to the last diamond you shared with me. It has a HCA score of 0.5, which is a good start! However, do remember that the HCA tool should only be used as a filtration tool to weed out poor proportioned diamonds. It only takes into account 17 out of a diamonds 57 facets, and ignores symmetry.

I've managed to obtain more information about this diamond, and summarized it below, for your easy reference.

0.90 G VS1 (GIA 5326777650)
We have access to this diamond. It is being listed for $8,200 (Including 7% GST).
I managed to obtain the scope images and attached it for your reference.
- In the ASET scope image, it shows that the 12, 5, 7 and 9 o'clock arrows are tilted.
- In addition, this diamond has painted girdles.
- From the Hearts scope image, there are some in-symmetry in the hearts, with some fusion in the hearts.

Overall, this diamond does have ideal proportions, but is not a Super Ideal Cut due to its light performance and symmetry.

If you have any questions or need further help, feel free to let me know.

Cheers,
Joy

 

[chrisleenoodle]

Wow, how much lower does JP bring in instead of going through Whiteflash?

So far the diamonds I got ranges abt 400-800 cheaper. I use them as my price checker

 

[Miltah]

So far the diamonds I got ranges abt 400-800 cheaper. I use them as my price checker

Not sure abt you but I would gladly trade clarity (but eye clean) for better cutting n symmetry

Left. BGD 0.91G SI1 $7000 (after gst)
Right. WF ACA 0.91 G SI1 $8650 (after gst)

There was a cheaper WF aca but alas aset not as good