Proposal Ring - Part 3

[adrianh4rt]

They dun let u take photos of the scope unless u buying. So it’s up to u to assess. Im sure they have some good stones, just depends on how perfect u want it to be.

Frankly I think that HOH posted earlier is much ‘better’ than JP SIC

Yeah. Cos they quoted me.

Ling
0.75 F VS1 6200
0.65 E VS1 4700

JP
0.72 F VS1 6800 (SIC)
0.61 F VS1 5100 (SIC)

Of cos i do understand that JP quality is almost as assured as it can be without even checking.

 

[skizzer]

They dun let u take photos of the scope unless u buying. So it’s up to u to assess. Im sure they have some good stones, just depends on how perfect u want it to be.

Frankly I think that HOH posted earlier is much ‘better’ than JP SIC

The one I posted? Better as in value wise?

@Miltah, can I check if the 10 over percent discount of Overseas stones such as the WF one u posted vs the HOH I posted is common? I presume the stones we r comparing in this case r comparable? Thx

 

[Miltah]

The one I posted? Better as in value wise?

@Miltah, can I check if the 10 over percent discount of Overseas stones such as the WF one u posted vs the HOH I posted is common? I presume the stones we r comparing in this case r comparable? Thx

Better in variety, characteristics n value. JP stones can get boring as they lack variety.

The stone u posted have a perfect aset with a 55% table. The only thing is that it is not perfect in symmetry (not that u will see it IRL).

Overseas stone operate on an online model so likely less overheads than JP. But a brick n mortar shop makes it back up in service.. your call.

The BGD Black is comparable to the HOH. The whiteflash posted is lower (for this stone).

 

[Miltah]

Prices for diamond are dropping with some knock on effects from lab grown.

https://www.diamonds.net/News/NewsItem.aspx?ArticleID=63898&ArticleTitle=Stop+Buying+Rough

Typical “American” goods — 0.60- to 1.50-carat, G to J, SI to I1 — are moving. The problem is in the bookends of the market — the smaller and larger categories

There is more supply than demand for 0.25- to 0.50-carat polished. Buyers of these diamonds are offering low prices because they’re afraid to lose money if prices continue to fall.

 

[new_bie]

Guess JP service level has drop a little as well.

 

[Miltah]

Guess JP service level has drop a little as well.

Care to elaborate?

 

[new_bie]

For wedding band, they don't ever tell you if your ring is ready.

Furthermore, went back to do resizing & they can place my FULLY PAID ring back to the retail shelving & min later ask where is it.

Maybe they know everyone will do at most 2 purchase only ~ so maybe not keen?

 

[adrianh4rt]

Yeah. Cos they quoted me.

Ling
0.75 F VS1 6200
0.65 E VS1 4700

JP
0.72 F VS1 6800 (SIC)
0.61 F VS1 5100 (SIC)

Of cos i do understand that JP quality is almost as assured as it can be without even checking.

I've got the aset scope images from Ling. I dont know how to upload it here. Anyone care to advise how to do it? It does seems to lose out to JP SIC definitely. But just thinking if its worth the price quoted by Ling

 

[jubeelant]

A Cut Above vs. Solasfera

Hi All,

May I get your opinions to help me make an informed choice?

I'm comparing these two diamonds:

A Cut Above, AGS-104106177005, 0.766, VS2, G
Link to ASET etc. - https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut-loose-diamond-4128826.htm

Solasfera, GIA-2155960933, 0.81, VS2, E
Link to ASET etc. - https://imgur.com/a/dNzU9kr

My questions are:

1. Is the Solasfera going to sparkle significantly more than the A Cut Above to justify a difference of about SGD$1,500 (about 32% difference)?

2. Will a AGS certified Solasfera be better than a GIA certified Solasfera on paper?

I figure a good way will be to purchase the A Cut Above diamond and bring it to do a physical comparison with the Solasfera, but I'd rather not go down this route if possible.

Both diamonds are within my budget but I would rather not be suckered by marketing hahaha.

Thanks in advance guys!

 

[Miltah]

I've got the aset scope images from Ling. I dont know how to upload it here. Anyone care to advise how to do it? It does seems to lose out to JP SIC definitely. But just thinking if its worth the price quoted by Ling

U can post a link to the images. Someone can upload for u.
Yeah depends on the aset, it does not seem that much cheaper.

 

[Miltah]

I'm comparing these two diamonds:

A Cut Above, AGS-104106177005, 0.766, VS2, G
Link to ASET etc. - https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut-loose-diamond-4128826.htm

Solasfera, GIA-2155960933, 0.81, VS2, E
Link to ASET etc. - https://imgur.com/a/dNzU9kr

My questions are:

1. Is the Solasfera going to sparkle significantly more than the A Cut Above to justify a difference of about SGD$1,500 (about 32% difference)?

2. Will a AGS certified Solasfera be better than a GIA certified Solasfera on paper?

I figure a good way will be to purchase the A Cut Above diamond and bring it to do a physical comparison with the Solasfera, but I'd rather not go down this route if possible.

Both diamonds are within my budget but I would rather not be suckered by marketing hahaha.

Thanks in advance guys!

1. Yes. But smaller more splintery sparkles. They are 2 different cuts. Depends which u prefer. It’s like asking me if I like roast pork or char siew png, both nice but different.

2. If it’s a solasfera, it’s a solasfera. No difference which lab it is sent to for grading.

You can ship in the ACA, even though return postage is paid for but to claim the gst back is a hassle

 

[adrianh4rt]

U can post a link to the images. Someone can upload for u.
Yeah depends on the aset, it does not seem that much cheaper.

Not sure if i do it correctly.

https://m.imgur.com/a/eKWKkCC

It sure looks more comparable to HOH Ideal cuts

 

[CutiePie84]

Not sure if i do it correctly.

https://m.imgur.com/a/eKWKkCC

It sure looks more comparable to HOH Ideal cuts

I dont think they are that comparable to the HOH Ideals.

The black line points out the unsymmetrical arrows.
Green line is where there is light leakages or lighter whitish patches, there may be parts that have weaker light return.

This one got 3 arrows that are abit off and a number of whitesh patches.

This one has better light return and less white patches. The bottom arrow is totally disconnected.
I kept staring at it and find that something was abit off and realise that the arrows at the top portion half of the diamond is longer and the bottom half arrows are shorter.

 

[Miltah]

Not sure if i do it correctly.

https://m.imgur.com/a/eKWKkCC

It sure looks more comparable to HOH Ideal cuts

U got your answer.

Someone posted Canary prices n specs earlier. Without scope images, they were pretty close to ideal specs.
For the price savings between Ling n Canary, I think Canary is cheaper

 

[adrianh4rt]

I dont think they are that comparable to the HOH Ideals.

The black line points out the unsymmetrical arrows.
Green line is where there is light leakages or lighter whitish patches, there may be parts that have weaker light return.

This one got 3 arrows that are abit off and a number of whitesh patches.

This one has better light return and less white patches. The bottom arrow is totally disconnected.
I kept staring at it and find that something was abit off and realise that the arrows at the top portion half of the diamond is longer and the bottom half arrows are shorter.

Thanks for the detailed explanations!

 

[adrianh4rt]

U got your answer.

Someone posted Canary prices n specs earlier. Without scope images, they were pretty close to ideal specs.
For the price savings between Ling n Canary, I think Canary is cheaper

True. Think with cutiepie analysis I'll probably take a look at HOH Ideal cuts too then.

 

[skizzer]

Want to check sth with everyone here.

So far I have only visited JP/HOH, but it seems to me that despite me saying that i want to assess all the stones they have at a certain price range/budget, it seems to me that... initially they only show me 4~5. then over next few weeks, as I reject the few and ask for more info on next batch of stones. Then suddenly, a few more stones that fit my specs will pop up...

Am i right to say that retailers like JP/HOH (and probably all of the other local shops) tend not to show ALL the stones that fit that client's specs/requirement at once?

 

[adrianh4rt]

Any comments on the following two HOH Ideal diamonds? To me, they both have their pros and flaws in terms of light return from their aset scope. I have yet to see the physical diamond thou. May i ask experts here which is of a better deal?

0.75 E VS1 $6150
https://imgur.com/a/UJ8EVbE

0.77 F VS1 $5950
https://imgur.com/a/L2iEy5m

 

[Miltah]

Am i right to say that retailers like JP/HOH (and probably all of the other local shops) tend not to show ALL the stones that fit that client's specs/requirement at once?

If it’s the same cut, showing u 4-5 is already out of the ordinary. Usually it’s only 2-3.
U only need one n they might lose track especially when they all look alike

 

[Miltah]

Any comments on the following two HOH Ideal diamonds? To me, they both have their pros and flaws in terms of light return from their aset scope. I have yet to see the physical diamond thou. May i ask experts here which is of a better deal?

0.75 E VS1 $6150
https://imgur.com/a/UJ8EVbE

0.77 F VS1 $5950
https://imgur.com/a/L2iEy5m

Both would be identical to the eye. See if u can pick it.
The 0.77 F has JPs preferred spec n likely just miss SIC
The 0.75 E has more character but more uneven girdle