Proposal Ring - Part 4

[Miltah]

I asked the experts on this thread some time back (thanks HansenDeHardwarezone, chrislenoodle, KingKenny and Son-Y-noS), and I eventually got Jann Paul's Decagon Round 10 White Series. The process was really really fast for me, apparently I'm one of the lucky ones: the digital renders took one week, the plastic cast arrived in one week, and the custom cut diamond (which I was told would take two to three months) arrived in the following week...surprise surprise. They said that most likely, they had enough leftover rough diamond to cut my Decagon, hence it came so quickly. The ring setting wasn't even ready at this point - gonna be another four to six weeks from now, although they've already ordered it.

Sharing the images here (taken using my handphone, S10+ doesn't have the best camera) for reference, in case any of you are still undecided! The cut is really on another level. Of course, you won't be looking through the scope when your partner's wearing it, so let them show you the diamond's performance in normal daylight / office light. I suppose the scope images let you sleep a little better when you know that your money is well-spent (guess this is subjective).

ASET Scope:
Diamond Magnifier (top) - this is your "starburst" 10 arrows:
Diamond Magnifier (bot) - this is your 10 Hearts & Arrows:

camera alignment issues but I dun think u have anything to worry about

 

[beermachine]

Guys, sharing a video of my Decagon and welcome any opinion. Their diamond specialist Avery did a video a decagon I shortlisted which I did not expect. Was pleasantly surprised she took the effort to do this for me. I actually first went to JP last year and due to some life changes, had to delay my purchase until this year. Diamond is a 0.49 G VVS1, and from my understanding, 0.49ct is a rare size? I'm thinking if I should wait it out for a lower clarity as I'm not fuss over the clarity since their VS1-VS2 will be eye clean. Diamond choice will definitely be the Decagon. I saw it outdoors like some of you suggested and its damn bright. I thought it actually looks even better outdoors than indoors. lol

Did you custom cut yours to 0.49ct? Or was it ready stock?

 

[ttmaxx]

Did you custom cut yours to 0.49ct? Or was it ready stock?

It's a ready stock. They told me just nice there was a new shipment that just arrived the day before my visit.

 

[ttmaxx]

Guys, sharing a video of my Decagon and welcome any opinion. Their diamond specialist Avery did a video a decagon I shortlisted which I did not expect. Was pleasantly surprised she took the effort to do this for me. I actually first went to JP last year and due to some life changes, had to delay my purchase until this year. Diamond is a 0.49 G VVS1, and from my understanding, 0.49ct is a rare size? I'm thinking if I should wait it out for a lower clarity as I'm not fuss over the clarity since their VS1-VS2 will be eye clean. Diamond choice will definitely be the Decagon. I saw it outdoors like some of you suggested and its damn bright. I thought it actually looks even better outdoors than indoors. lol

Guys, pls stop pming me.. I already placed a deposit for the 0.49ct decagon to reserve it. It's not available

 

[diamond_noob]

Mind sharing more info of your diamond?

It is a JannPaul Labgrown 0.946ct decagon diamond, Grade D, VVS. AGS certified

 

[Forbidd3n]

Went to JP recently to start on the proposal journey. Originally wanted to get a custom cut Decagon for a specific size. But they advised that there were no guarantees in getting what I wanted since it depended on the incoming stock of rough diamonds + the outcome after cutting. Wonder if any bros here have such requests too?

Was offered this Decagon instead from their remaining stock. Still looks amazing though! Can the experts advise if this can pass? From what I've been reading here abt diamonds, should be ok i guess? Thanks in advance!

 

[youngmummyemily]

Went to JP recently to start on the proposal journey. Originally wanted to get a custom cut Decagon for a specific size. But they advised that there were no guarantees in getting what I wanted since it depended on the incoming stock of rough diamonds + the outcome after cutting. Wonder if any bros here have such requests too?

Was offered this Decagon instead from their remaining stock. Still looks amazing though! Can the experts advise if this can pass? From what I've been reading here abt diamonds, should be ok i guess? Thanks in advance!

I know for their custom cuts, it would be a range like D-F, VVS1-VS1, etc. and they will give a price range with the final price depending on what grades the diamond fall under. If you ok with the possible range and ok to wait, then can custom cut. If you already found one in the specs you want, then no point custom cutting also cos it can vary. Their white series are all tip top in the realm of diamond cuts, so either one, you cant go wrong. Just that which option takes longer and more to your preference.

 

[Nachos23]

Hi bros,

Was wondering if u think such a stone 'specification' for SGD4k including plain gold setting seems reasonable?

0.56 carat
flurocence: none
Color: D
clarity: vs1
Polish: excellent
(GIA cert)

Thank you bros.

 

[Exclusive10]

Advice needed... Budget 2k , will u go for moissanite / lab grown / real diamond ?

i heard the trend now is gem stone? those color ones?

from this thread, understand if real diamond can give JP a shot.
any recommendation for lab grown or moissanite? or even cz , are cz worth for consideration ?

 

[freewilly5000]

Hi bros,

Was wondering if u think such a stone 'specification' for SGD4k including plain gold setting seems reasonable?

0.56 carat
flurocence: none
Color: D
clarity: vs1
Polish: excellent
(GIA cert)

Thank you bros.

Can't tell just from those specs bro. It can vary hugely. Is it a Super Ideal Cut? There are many types of different cuts. What's the proportions? Got the scope images? You can post the cert and scope images. Then can have a better idea.

 

[freewilly5000]

Advice needed... Budget 2k , will u go for moissanite / lab grown / real diamond ?

i heard the trend now is gem stone? those color ones?

from this thread, understand if real diamond can give JP a shot.
any recommendation for lab grown or moissanite? or even cz , are cz worth for consideration ?

For $2k, I think it can either get you a real diamond ring in 0.3ct range. For lab growns, it can definitely get you a bigger size. Lab growns have good and bad quality ones too. If size is a concern, I would consider lab grown but would check with your partner first. Not all girls might be accepting of lab growns.

I'll give Moissanite and CZ. They're ''suppose'' to look like diamonds, but dont look like diamonds. I've seen them before and it looks very fake. Then when people see it, they will just think its a fake diamond ring even though you explain its moissanite or CZ, the perception is still a ''fake''. At least lab grown you can say its still a diamond.

Gemstone colors are hard to wear daily when the color is too strong. Unless you know your gf really loves that color. I feel color stones are more like anniversary gift rings or presents rather than a proposal ring. Haha. But that's just my view la.

 

[Exclusive10]

For $2k, I think it can either get you a real diamond ring in 0.3ct range. For lab growns, it can definitely get you a bigger size. Lab growns have good and bad quality ones too. If size is a concern, I would consider lab grown but would check with your partner first. Not all girls might be accepting of lab growns.

I'll give Moissanite and CZ. They're ''suppose'' to look like diamonds, but dont look like diamonds. I've seen them before and it looks very fake. Then when people see it, they will just think its a fake diamond ring even though you explain its moissanite or CZ, the perception is still a ''fake''. At least lab grown you can say its still a diamond.

Gemstone colors are hard to wear daily when the color is too strong. Unless you know your gf really loves that color. I feel color stones are more like anniversary gift rings or presents rather than a proposal ring. Haha. But that's just my view la.

any recommendation for online for lab grown store?

 

[raylite]

Hi bros,

Was wondering if u think such a stone 'specification' for SGD4k including plain gold setting seems reasonable?

0.56 carat
flurocence: none
Color: D
clarity: vs1
Polish: excellent
(GIA cert)

Thank you bros.

my lab grown diamond engagement ring specs as follows, for your reference

Price: S$4,200
size: 1.03 carat
fluorescence: none
Colour: E
Clarity: VVS1
Polish/Cut/Symmetry: Excellent
Cert: IGI

 

[freewilly5000]

any recommendation for online for lab grown store?

Online you can try Jamesallen. Their 1ct D-F VVS is about SGD 3.8k onwards after factoring taxes. But they are all IGI certs. JP's lab growns 1ct same range start from 3.9k and is a stricter AGS cert. Plus it's a better white series cut. So JP still offers better value for quality, cut and price. Btw, i suggest you do more research about stria and birefringence in lab growns. Or read ong.brendan's post. There are different lab grown types.

For a sensing of price on different certs, I saw JP had lab growns in IGI cert that they use for the education sessions. A IGI cert 1ct same range will cost about $3.1k. But be prepared for their looser gradings.

Not all lab grown diamonds are the same though. From what I read online, main problems with lab growns right now is that many new diamond growers are rushing into growing them and shortcuts in the process. This creates bad quality lab diamonds and can many issues like off hues and stria. I think the more common problem is stria. It makes the diamond look fuzzy from the many ''growth lines?''. It won't be obvious in jewelry shop lights btw. It's only when you see it in softer light settings. This is a good read on problems of lab grown diamonds to avoid - https://www.diamondscreener.com/edu...o-look-for-when-buying-a-lab-created-diamond/

That's also why all these sellers are certifying these lab growns in IGI certificate, which is a really crap lab. I would only stick to GIA or AGS. I hope yours is not IGI. Like I see the ones from Micheal Trio are all IGI.

Another point to consider is the difference in the Cut. JP's ovals are the oval hearts and arrows. The other ovals you're comparing against is the normal oval which looks very different (you see the oval video from the earlier post). Normal ovals have alot of light leakages (no hearts & arrows). I think you're might be confusing that all oval cuts are the same.

 

[Nachos23]

Can't tell just from those specs bro. It can vary hugely. Is it a Super Ideal Cut? There are many types of different cuts. What's the proportions? Got the scope images? You can post the cert and scope images. Then can have a better idea.

Haha it's a princess cut (brilliant). This is all the info there is for non-round stones.

Just need an estimate.

Thanks in advanced bros

 

[Nachos23]

Advice needed... Budget 2k , will u go for moissanite / lab grown / real diamond ?

i heard the trend now is gem stone? those color ones?

from this thread, understand if real diamond can give JP a shot.
any recommendation for lab grown or moissanite? or even cz , are cz worth for consideration ?

2k can try Meyson jewellery inside Bugis Junction mall. Can get real diamonds. you will find they can be surprisingly cheap, and they got some halo setting which makes the stone looks much bigger. Their 2k range looks dam decent if u ask me

 

[Nachos23]

any recommendation for online for lab grown store?

If u got time to wait for delivery, I find James Allen has a dam good selection and price is definitely cheaper compared to sg shops that provide u service and have rental overhead

 

[1000smiles]

Hi bros,

Was wondering if u think such a stone 'specification' for SGD4k including plain gold setting seems reasonable?

0.56 carat
flurocence: none
Color: D
clarity: vs1
Polish: excellent
(GIA cert)

Thank you bros.

Hmmm.. from princess cuts, that’s very expensive le. For the specs, it should be $2k+. Princess cuts are priced significantly lower than rounds. For $4k, you can get those Hearts & Arrows cut already.

 

[1000smiles]

If u got time to wait for delivery, I find James Allen has a dam good selection and price is definitely cheaper compared to sg shops that provide u service and have rental overhead

James Allen is a drop shipper. Some sg shops do drop shipping too but there are reasons why certain diamonds are being sold on the floating market.

 

[Nachos23]

Hmmm.. from princess cuts, that’s very expensive le. For the specs, it should be $2k+. Princess cuts are priced significantly lower than rounds. For $4k, you can get those Hearts & Arrows cut already.

Wow thanks for the info bro.

btw do you mean hearts and arrow of same carat and spec? Or better spec?