Proposal Ring - Part 4

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I have seen it myself. I think its a very beautiful piece. Its from Jann Paul. I managed to get some images from the sales person. However, one issue I have is that the diamond was certified in 2020, not sure why its not sold till now

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I concur your sentiments. I also just bought a 0.72 carat round 8 diamond recently that was dated in 2020. I was also very concerned with why is it available since it is 2023 now. But I still cannot get an answer. Most senpais here say to trust your eyes so I guess that’s the most important ba.
 

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I have seen it myself. I think its a very beautiful piece. Its from Jann Paul. I managed to get some images from the sales person. However, one issue I have is that the diamond was certified in 2020, not sure why its not sold till now

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oh its JP round brilliant that you were sharing .

I think ever since the JP white Series 2-3 years ago it has been a very very popular.
So much so that their Round 8 sic would not be part of most consumer option. have you seen the difference between their Decagon and SIC ?



Is time an issue for you too? I know most of their white series are sold out and wait time is 3-4 months, you can try asking to compare if you have time.
Perhaps you can consider if your ring isnt crafted yet, i think you can still swap to their white series diamond.
 

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oh its JP round brilliant that you were sharing .

I think ever since the JP white Series 2-3 years ago it has been a very very popular.
So much so that their Round 8 sic would not be part of most consumer option. have you seen the difference between their Decagon and SIC ?



Is time an issue for you too? I know most of their white series are sold out and wait time is 3-4 months, you can try asking to compare if you have time.
Perhaps you can consider if your ring isnt crafted yet, i think you can still swap to their white series diamond.

Unfortunately I dont have the luxury of time because I am planning to propose in end Jun. I went down few months back and I was shown the difference between Decagon and the SIC diamond I paid a deposit for. Apparently from afar, my diamond seems to be brighter compared to Decagon not sure if its the white series or just a normal decagon SIC.
 

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yeap their decagon's or all their white series are cut to extremely strict proportions set for each cut. The AGS aset image is a scan, you can request the ASET photo taken( it's more accurate, the ags scans are always off) then share here again. upload into imagr and do spacing if you cant upload images
OK managed to obtain the ASET photos. Comments would be greatly appreciated from anyone. Thanks!





 

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18k excluding ring etc. Yes I know, natural is really expensive.

The reason why pricing of diamonds have increased sharply is due to worldwide shortage of diamond roughs :

https://www.diamonds.net/News/NewsI...gh+Shortages+Could+Last+10+Years%2c+Bain+Says
The article posted was in February last year. I doubt the price will go down anytime soon with further shortage due to the ongoing War between Russia and Ukraine.
Russia is the largest producer of diamond roughs in the world, but because of sanctions placed on them. I doubt any rough will come out of there.
Prices will either remain constant or continue to go up due to this.
 

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Finally jp has high light performance elongated they just released a cushion elongated hearts and arrows I really like all of them and can’t decide. Any opinions vote which suits my finger the best?

Outdoor


Sunlight


RadiantX


CushionX


Emerald 2.0
 

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Finally jp has high light performance elongated they just released a cushion elongated hearts and arrows I really like all of them and can’t decide. Any opinions vote which suits my finger the best?

Outdoor


Sunlight


RadiantX


CushionX


Emerald 2.0



that elongated cushion is a hearts and arrows?
 

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Hi senpais here, I have been looking for a lab grown diamond ring and so far have been to a number (Ling Jewellery, Novita, eClarity/BA.SG etc.). Budget 1.5k, 1k if possible. 0.5-0.7ct is ideal with a reasonably "white" looking sparkle and not too dull.

Gf specifically request for lab grown diamond, single gem, white gold, and to keep to a low budget as she wishes to spend more on other things. She does not want diamond simulants and moissanite etc.

Will JP be possible or is the budget too low for them to bother with me?
 

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Hi senpais here, I have been looking for a lab grown diamond ring and so far have been to a number (Ling Jewellery, Novita, eClarity/BA.SG etc.). Budget 1.5k, 1k if possible. 0.5-0.7ct is ideal with a reasonably "white" looking sparkle and not too dull.

Gf specifically request for lab grown diamond, single gem, white gold, and to keep to a low budget as she wishes to spend more on other things. She does not want diamond simulants and moissanite etc.

Will JP be possible or is the budget too low for them to bother with me?
JP lab grown diamond as follows
0.71 to 0.79 $2,800-$3,000
0.80 -0.89 $3,000-$3,200
0.90-0.99 $$3,200-$3,500
these are excluding ring setting. roughly 600 and above?

you can try authica. but i not sure if the price is lower.
 

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JP lab grown diamond as follows
0.71 to 0.79 $2,800-$3,000
0.80 -0.89 $3,000-$3,200
0.90-0.99 $$3,200-$3,500
these are excluding ring setting. roughly 600 and above?

you can try authica. but i not sure if the price is lower.
Thanks for the info. I have visited Authica but I don't think they provide the value that their high pricing commands. If I had more budget JP would be a better value than Authica.
 

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Thanks for the info. I have visited Authica but I don't think they provide the value that their high pricing commands. If I had more budget JP would be a better value than Authica.
been to most lab grown vendors including authica, quality of labgrown is by far superior at JP. if you know what to look out for you can see immediately alot of stria and brown/grey tones, jp's quality is top tier even with pricescopers standards. combine that if you're going for their white series cuts then it's a no brainer.
 

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been to most lab grown vendors including authica, quality of labgrown is by far superior at JP. if you know what to look out for you can see immediately alot of stria and brown/grey tones, jp's quality is top tier even with pricescopers standards. combine that if you're going for their white series cuts then it's a no brainer.
Agree. However what I want is under JP's budget right now. But might consider them for future jewellery needs.
 

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that elongated cushion is a hearts and arrows?

yup it's in soft launch under their white series collection
i requested the scopes and videos it's a H&A for reference below.

ASET image


Brightness


Hearts Image


Arrows image


it looks really really good. i'm super torn between their new radiant and the elongated cushion, not sure which fits my finger better, ive been around looking for fancies but nothing even comes close to jannpauls cuts
they all look leaky mushy dull
 
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yup it's in soft launch under their white series collection
i requested the scopes and videos it's a H&A for reference below.

ASET image


Brightness


Hearts Image


Arrows image


it looks really really good. i'm super torn between their new radiant and the elongated cushion, not sure which fits my finger better, ive been around looking for fancies but nothing even comes close to jannpauls cuts
they all look leaky mushy dull



it's not only their cuts, labgrown cvd or hpht goes from **** quality to the highest. So much low quality lab grown sellers, even chain stores or the so called "lab grown" speciality jewelers all sell very low quality labgrown
materials. if ure using as engagement ring go to JP cause their lab grown quality is guaranteed on their site:

White Series (Lab Grown Diamonds)
The White Series range is available in Lab Grown Diamonds. All of our lab grown diamonds are slow growth (no catalyst is used), using the top quality carbon seeds. Over 99% of lab grown diamonds suffers from Stria issues, causing birefringence in the diamond, which is viewable under polarized lights. In addition, many growers uses inferior catalyst or re-use carbon seeds, causing unnatural off hues (Eg. Brown, blue or metallic gray) in the diamond. In JANNPAUL, all of our lab grown diamonds are guaranteed to be free from stria or off hues. Our diamonds are all Type IIa, the chemically purest makes and are AGS or GIA certified only. We do not carry IGI certified diamonds for various reasons.

Due to our strict and slow growth methods, most of our lab grown diamonds are sold out. However, we do accept custom orders, and able to grow and cut a diamond in your preference. We sincerely apologize for our lack of stock. Our lab grown diamonds are available in D-F Colors, VVS1-VS1 Clarity.

Our Quality (Lab Grown Diamonds)
Our Lab Grown diamond quality follows the same criteria as our Natural Earth Mined Diamond as mentioned above, with the following additional points:

AGS or GIA Certified only (strictly no IGI certificate)

All Type IIa only

No Stria issues (commonly found in Lab Grown diamonds)

No birefringence

No unnatural metallic or blueish hue

No brownish or off color hue

No fluorescence

In the lab Grown Diamond industry, majority of growers try to grow as many diamonds as possible at the shortest duration. The common trend is to grow as much as possible at the lowest cost and time. However, this has led to unnatural looking lab grown diamonds with birefringence and stria issues (viewable under polarized lights), and off-color hues. In our growing process, we ensure all of our lab grown diamonds are grown in the purest chemical form and adopt an ethically responsible process.

We use the highest quality carbon seeds

We never reuse our carbon seeds

We do not add catalysts (eg. Boron) to speed up the growth process

Our chambers are contaminant free

Constant electricity supply (no restart during growth process)

Our Lab Grown Diamonds are from the same grower to ensure quality and ethical practices

TLDR: if you don't follow pricescope:

HPHT: very common to have blue / metallic nuance, greyish. this is because of poor use of seeds or too much boron, or nitrogen. the only way to guarantee it has luster is for HPHT to go through lab testing for type IIA. which is damn rare
and jannpaul seems like the only one in the world who can produce them and is tested iia in gcal.

CVD: this one is much much more problematic, and irl if u know what ure looking for, i've been around many different lab grown shops, if they set in ring which has a open crown turn the ring upside down and look at the body color,
most shops you'll see very very common brownish tint.(on pricescope i've seen other off hue like green grey pink brown etc, but Singapore tends to be always brown or grey from what ive seen from most shops)
striation: vary from shop to shop depends on the lighting. some shops its very easy to see cause they use LED you can see alot of straining lines, and this heavily affects fire(refraction) and the diamond appears fuzzy
The most dangerous is this: phosphorescence, i dont see much people talking about this at all, low quality cvd that exhibits phosphorescence can cause the diamond to change color over time if exposed years to sunlight, idk why no one
ever talks about this. bring a uv torch if u have one, if it glows, then forget about it.

if you're looking for quality guaranteed go to JP, not only does the cut matter, but the material of the lab grown is equally as important if you really want a beautiful rock
im a chem engineer, theres so many lab grown companies in Singapore who don't know a thing, all they talk about it is it's more "ethical".
 

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it's not only their cuts, labgrown cvd or hpht goes from **** quality to the highest. So much low quality lab grown sellers, even chain stores or the so called "lab grown" speciality jewelers all sell very low quality labgrown
materials. if ure using as engagement ring go to JP cause their lab grown quality is guaranteed on their site:

White Series (Lab Grown Diamonds)
The White Series range is available in Lab Grown Diamonds. All of our lab grown diamonds are slow growth (no catalyst is used), using the top quality carbon seeds. Over 99% of lab grown diamonds suffers from Stria issues, causing birefringence in the diamond, which is viewable under polarized lights. In addition, many growers uses inferior catalyst or re-use carbon seeds, causing unnatural off hues (Eg. Brown, blue or metallic gray) in the diamond. In JANNPAUL, all of our lab grown diamonds are guaranteed to be free from stria or off hues. Our diamonds are all Type IIa, the chemically purest makes and are AGS or GIA certified only. We do not carry IGI certified diamonds for various reasons.

Due to our strict and slow growth methods, most of our lab grown diamonds are sold out. However, we do accept custom orders, and able to grow and cut a diamond in your preference. We sincerely apologize for our lack of stock. Our lab grown diamonds are available in D-F Colors, VVS1-VS1 Clarity.

Our Quality (Lab Grown Diamonds)
Our Lab Grown diamond quality follows the same criteria as our Natural Earth Mined Diamond as mentioned above, with the following additional points:

AGS or GIA Certified only (strictly no IGI certificate)

All Type IIa only

No Stria issues (commonly found in Lab Grown diamonds)

No birefringence

No unnatural metallic or blueish hue

No brownish or off color hue

No fluorescence

In the lab Grown Diamond industry, majority of growers try to grow as many diamonds as possible at the shortest duration. The common trend is to grow as much as possible at the lowest cost and time. However, this has led to unnatural looking lab grown diamonds with birefringence and stria issues (viewable under polarized lights), and off-color hues. In our growing process, we ensure all of our lab grown diamonds are grown in the purest chemical form and adopt an ethically responsible process.

We use the highest quality carbon seeds

We never reuse our carbon seeds

We do not add catalysts (eg. Boron) to speed up the growth process

Our chambers are contaminant free

Constant electricity supply (no restart during growth process)

Our Lab Grown Diamonds are from the same grower to ensure quality and ethical practices

TLDR: if you don't follow pricescope:

HPHT: very common to have blue / metallic nuance, greyish. this is because of poor use of seeds or too much boron, or nitrogen. the only way to guarantee it has luster is for HPHT to go through lab testing for type IIA. which is damn rare
and jannpaul seems like the only one in the world who can produce them and is tested iia in gcal.

CVD: this one is much much more problematic, and irl if u know what ure looking for, i've been around many different lab grown shops, if they set in ring which has a open crown turn the ring upside down and look at the body color,
most shops you'll see very very common brownish tint.(on pricescope i've seen other off hue like green grey pink brown etc, but Singapore tends to be always brown or grey from what ive seen from most shops)
striation: vary from shop to shop depends on the lighting. some shops its very easy to see cause they use LED you can see alot of straining lines, and this heavily affects fire(refraction) and the diamond appears fuzzy
The most dangerous is this: phosphorescence, i dont see much people talking about this at all, low quality cvd that exhibits phosphorescence can cause the diamond to change color over time if exposed years to sunlight, idk why no one
ever talks about this. bring a uv torch if u have one, if it glows, then forget about it.

if you're looking for quality guaranteed go to JP, not only does the cut matter, but the material of the lab grown is equally as important if you really want a beautiful rock
im a chem engineer, theres so many lab grown companies in Singapore who don't know a thing, all they talk about it is it's more "ethical".

I follow pricescope as well, even people in the US go for JP cause of their cuts and swear by their lab grown quality, not much discussion here in this forum about labgrowns.
for bro's interested more this is a very good example he's talking about:

from ADA diamonds, explaining all the problems with low quality lab growns flooding the market.
 

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yup it's in soft launch under their white series collection
i requested the scopes and videos it's a H&A for reference below.

ASET image


Brightness


Hearts Image


Arrows image


it looks really really good. i'm super torn between their new radiant and the elongated cushion, not sure which fits my finger better, ive been around looking for fancies but nothing even comes close to jannpauls cuts
they all look leaky mushy dull


Woa swee leh
 

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Hi senpais here, I have been looking for a lab grown diamond ring and so far have been to a number (Ling Jewellery, Novita, eClarity/BA.SG etc.). Budget 1.5k, 1k if possible. 0.5-0.7ct is ideal with a reasonably "white" looking sparkle and not too dull.
Gf specifically request for lab grown diamond, single gem, white gold, and to keep to a low budget as she wishes to spend more on other things. She does not want diamond simulants and moissanite etc.
Will JP be possible or is the budget too low for them to bother with me?

Have u heard of Le Caine? Not sure about their quality as I'm not an expert but i got a moissanite ring from them. They have lab grown too and maybe able to fit into your budget altho I think it's very hard for diamond at 0.5-0.7 ct..


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