Proposal Ring - Part 4

[jamwithyou]

yup it's in soft launch under their white series collection
i requested the scopes and videos it's a H&A for reference below.

ASET image


Brightness


Hearts Image


Arrows image


it looks really really good. i'm super torn between their new radiant and the elongated cushion, not sure which fits my finger better, ive been around looking for fancies but nothing even comes close to jannpauls cuts
they all look leaky mushy dull

omg swee, that looks damn chio man. what's the timeline JP gave u if custom cut? im on fence at the moment with decagon or their new elongated Cushion , fancy shapes seem damn popular now

 

[emptyrecycle1990]

Hi experts here, I've placed a deposit for this diamond at 16k from JP, any thoughts on it?
AGS 104110854020
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104110854020/grading-report

 

[LWZ]

Hi experts here, I've placed a deposit for this diamond at 16k from JP, any thoughts on it?
AGS 104110854020
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104110854020/grading-report

just curious, what made you decide on JP ?

 

[chesterchew]

Hi experts here, I've placed a deposit for this diamond at 16k from JP, any thoughts on it?
AGS 104110854020
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104110854020/grading-report

proportions are all great , natural right? the ags scope is a scan, do you have the scopes from JP? also why not go for decagon or round 10 ?

 

[mandycandy]

omg swee, that looks damn chio man. what's the timeline JP gave u if custom cut? im on fence at the moment with decagon or their new elongated Cushion , fancy shapes seem damn popular now

Hmm i have made the order for the CushionX recently. I mean i really like the Decagon for its edge to edge fire but it still looks too classic and elongated shapes suits me much better. i cannot pass on this very nice CushionX diamond that have perfect 8 Hearts & Arrows compared to normal cushions its a killer. Its elongated which covers more of my fingers, and looks super bright outdoors compared to the normal ones u seen that looks leaky lol.

time line given to me is 4- 5 months

 

[princelester]

hi i saw some of you guys mentioning jp new radiant cuts.
I was actually looking for a round brilliant for my partner but she really mentioned that she really wants a radiant cut instead..
I'm quite lost as I have been researching alot on brilliant cuts and I know they definitely look better than fancy shapes in general?

I chanced upon janpaul radiant here and on their instagram, although it does look much better than all the radiant i;ve seen, Im not really sure how i check for them
as alot of my research tells me that fancy shapes dont have a cut grade, any senpais there can guide me how to check and compare jannpaul radiant and the normal ones?

Thanks so much guys!

 

[mandycandy]

hi i saw some of you guys mentioning jp new radiant cuts.
I was actually looking for a round brilliant for my partner but she really mentioned that she really wants a radiant cut instead..
I'm quite lost as I have been researching alot on brilliant cuts and I know they definitely look better than fancy shapes in general?

I chanced upon janpaul radiant here and on their instagram, although it does look much better than all the radiant i;ve seen, Im not really sure how i check for them
as alot of my research tells me that fancy shapes dont have a cut grade, any senpais there can guide me how to check and compare jannpaul radiant and the normal ones?

Thanks so much guys!

I completely agree on this, I’m not really technical but my bf is, so he was more of the one asking questions. I hope I can help you more on this, I will be heading down to JP again this weekend to try out the rings and will see if I can get some answers for you! But you can consider making an appt with JP as they share with you the side by side comparison so it really helps layman like me understand better, although I didn’t ask so much questions in depth, just more of making sure my CushionX is brighter and looks good for my fingers haha!! Jp also has very nice custom designs, did your partner mention any? Best to check with her, what I learnt from my SA is that the diamond choice will also affect the ring design..

 

[mandycandy]

hi i saw some of you guys mentioning jp new radiant cuts.
I was actually looking for a round brilliant for my partner but she really mentioned that she really wants a radiant cut instead..
I'm quite lost as I have been researching alot on brilliant cuts and I know they definitely look better than fancy shapes in general?

I chanced upon janpaul radiant here and on their instagram, although it does look much better than all the radiant i;ve seen, Im not really sure how i check for them
as alot of my research tells me that fancy shapes dont have a cut grade, any senpais there can guide me how to check and compare jannpaul radiant and the normal ones?

Thanks so much guys!

Hey @princelester i managed to request for scopes of the radiant. What i understand from my SA is that the most most accurate way to check for your radiant light performance is to check their aset scopes. But i think shops outside dont really provide them, but i cant say much for sure cox we only went to 2 shops other than jp la

I got avery to explain earlier, she mentioned that the radiantX they have, still features a crushed ice look but without the leaky/mushy appearance, I looked at alot of radiants they are generally very leaky and dull, idk a better word to describe lol

But i eventually chose the long cushion it was a really hard choice cox its soft sides suits my finger better whereas the radiant is much bolder and edgy!

This was from my visit today, i cant really rmb much technical stuff so this is the best i can do! If any senpais wanna chime in pls do haha

ASET scope analysis of the Radiant X


Brightness scope analysis of Radiant X


Ideal scope analysis

 

[mandycandy]

Here are videos of the RadiantX at tilts

RadiantX ASET Tilt analysis


RadiantX fire Tilt analysis


RadiantX brightness Tilt analysis

 

[BoringStuff]

edidtddfdd

 

[BuiBuiLumber1]

Hi all. Need some advice.
I just paid $3k for the following lab grown diamond from JP. Yay or nay?
GCAL Graded/ JP Super Ideal Cut
Carat: 0.7 carat
Color: F
Clarity: VVS1
Cut 8x

 

[chesterchew]

Hi all. Need some advice.
I just paid $3k for the following lab grown diamond from JP. Yay or nay?
GCAL Graded/ JP Super Ideal Cut
Carat: 0.7 carat
Color: F
Clarity: VVS1
Cut 8x

Hi bro, you have a certificate to show? JP carries many gcal 8x cuts in different shapes

 

[freewilly5000]

Here are videos of the RadiantX at tilts

RadiantX ASET Tilt analysis


RadiantX fire Tilt analysis


RadiantX brightness Tilt analysis

wow this is amazing, I had to call my current SA to confirm what i am seeing.
What i learnt from Eugene was that JP Radiant X was designed by paul to suit
designs styles too, if you look at a normal radiant aset i jus took these off from google,
and compare it with jp one.


You'll noticed that the edges are a full red = extreme bright
areas in the diamond.
Eugene was saying that there are a lot of ppl who wanted to do a nsew prong style for
their radiant these days.

so the redesigning of the edges for their new radiantX was specially catered to that
Basically for normal radiants , if you prong it in the NSEW style , it would likes the edges were cut off totally and under outdoors or indoors white light type of settings , your gf cannot really make out a nice radiant shape tbh

On the left is a Normal Radiant cut vs JP Radiant X on the right
Imagine that how much of a difference between and the entire coverage of how much the diamond scintillates compared to the Normal Radiant s

 

[bochup84]

Finally jp has high light performance elongated they just released a cushion elongated hearts and arrows I really like all of them and can’t decide. Any opinions vote which suits my finger the best?

Outdoor


Sunlight


RadiantX


CushionX


Emerald 2.0

Wah, you took such detailed videos! Thank you for uploading them cos I really enjoyed reminiscing the 3 different cuts. I was deciding among them also but in the end I got emerald 2.0. So you got cushion in the end?

The diamonds all look so nice. Even now while waiting for my rock to be ready, I am already thinking of getting the decagon next. I just need to cook up a good reason why I need another ring lol.

 

[emptyrecycle1990]

proportions are all great , natural right? the ags scope is a scan, do you have the scopes from JP? also why not go for decagon or round 10 ?

Yup it is natural. I do have the scope photos from JP. Let me attach them here. I didn't go for the Decagon or Round 10 because they don't have the Caret + Color grade I am looking for. I do compare with a few of their Decagon and Round 10 but I don't see much difference with naked eye so I decided to save a few bucks by choosing the SIC.

Ideal scope analysis

AGS ASET Scope

H&A

Actual Diamond

 

[emptyrecycle1990]

just curious, what made you decide on JP ?

I would say mainly because of the good review from this HWZ, multiple payment methods. I do take a look at a few other shops like Poh Heng, and Michael Trio. Poh Heng diamonds are pricey and for the Michael Trio, they don't have the stock that I am looking for. So, I ended up choosing JP.

 

[princelester]

I completely agree on this, I’m not really technical but my bf is, so he was more of the one asking questions. I hope I can help you more on this, I will be heading down to JP again this weekend to try out the rings and will see if I can get some answers for you! But you can consider making an appt with JP as they share with you the side by side comparison so it really helps layman like me understand better, although I didn’t ask so much questions in depth, just more of making sure my CushionX is brighter and looks good for my fingers haha!! Jp also has very nice custom designs, did your partner mention any? Best to check with her, what I learnt from my SA is that the diamond choice will also affect the ring design..

Hi @mandycandy thanks for all the images you have provided. Its really helpful in my research, and I hae already booked an appointment with JP in the coming weeks.

 

[noobzpro]

Gcal 8x certification ok? Compared to GIA

 

[Mister_Cool]

Hi Senpais , i went down to JP a few days ago and initially was looking at just round diamonds.
My SA showed me their white series diamonds , one of them is Decagon, and also a new cutting style called Octagon Nova.

Has anyone seen it before? I don’t see anybody mentioning it here but they told me it was only launched last week. My SA did a video of it to show me, should I go for Decagon or the Octagon nova?

My SO told me to get something unique for her, i think this is something i never seen before and pricing i was told the same eh . I’m leaning more towards the Octagon Nova if you ask me haha

 

[freewilly5000]

Gcal 8x certification ok? Compared to GIA

Hi @noobzpro

If you're looking for lab grown, GIA doesn't talk about growth method or even report type2a/b for lab growns. But either way for lab/natural they don't talk about light performance at all so you can't see light leakages, can't see if there's any milkiness/graining/brown/green hue cause GIA doesn't show any video or photos of the diamond at all.

They only go by proportion which is honestly not enough to go about since you still need the ASET to accurately see the light performance of the diamond of the whole 57 facet (if you're looking at normal round brilliants)

here some more details of what GCAL 8x certification provides

- 360 view of your diamond




Top and Bottom view , Fire video and Scintillation video




Brilliance , Symmetry along with hearts and arrows




for a GIA certificate , i feel that not a lot of information is being revealed haha


the only shop that i know of which uses Gcal 8x certificate in SG is jp.

I feel GCAL8x is far more transparent and detailed for consumer.
The reason why you see more GIA certs than GCAL 8x reports is just cause most retailers won't want to spend that extra USD$100-150+ compared to GIA/IGI to go and certify with GCAL 8x when most of their inventory probably wont even pass Gcal 8x. From what i know its extremely difficult to get a 8x grading. GIA not stating the differences between those, would just make all of them look equally good on paper as 3 EXC, since most consumers don't know what to look out for anyways which is how most of us end up here when we deep dive into more research haha.

Thanks for sharing, wow the new certs are an overload of information, D VVS1 Lab grown is 100% a pickup. And the rave over their white series diamonds are no no joke now I see.

I saw jannpaul collaborated with GCAL:

https://www.jewellerybusiness.com/news/8x-diamond-cut-lab-launches-proprietary-grading-certificates/
https://instoremag.com/gcal-launches-8x-proprietary-cut-grades-with-retail-jeweler-jannpaul/

I almost missed out, GCAL now grades IIA for HPHT. So they're probably going the extra mile to root out blue nuance diamonds and going for the highest material HPHT materials only using a FTIR checker to check boron levels. Cause it's extremely rare to have HPHT in IIA.

Using their example on gcal website; of a super ideal 8x just to compare

https://www.gcalusa.com/certificate-search.html?certificate_id=310650000

That's a crazy scintillation difference lol


The Reflector GCAL uses is much more comprehensive than the ASET, this is how it works


It's easy to see how much light is being returned in the round 10 compared to a normal round. Those familiar to the ASET, RED is prety much RED + Green on the GCAL scope, white is the same, leakage. Now I know why everyone claims their decagons and round10's from JP is so much brighter. Insane cutting precision for 111 facets


I think this is simpler to see to the layman, blue and dark greys are leakages or reflection of low angled light, so yeah pretty much speaks about the brightness of the round 10


The live video fire was very interesting to see, I've seen JP showcase in similar lighting tools of their fire videos but at a more extreme tilt , I think some of the technological tools they use are the same.


You should play the video yourself, The fire and scintillation spectacular in your round 10. I think what's interesting here also you can see not only the superior fire scintillation but even the brightness is unmatched
it's very promising to see much more transparency and the abundance of useful information now
GIA and IGI are sticking to extreme basic information, there's pretty nothing much you can tell from their certifications. GIA even doubled down and pulled away data now:

https://nationaljeweler.com/article...-less-expensive-report-for-lab-grown-diamonds

no more growth type identification etc... you don't even know what to look out for. There's such a huge disparity in quality of the material of labgrowns, or even naturals. Not to mention almost no cut evaluation now that GIA absorbed AGS but don't even utilize them properly



Hope this was helpful, very beautiful stone expected from JP