Proposal Ring - Part 4

Butterscotch28

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Hi all experts, would like to seek your opinion on this diamond.

Any issues with the proportion? I know this is a cushion diamond, so I can't compare it to the most ideal round proportion. Like, is the table % too narrow? Is the girdle too thick?

Should I be worried about the feather inclusion? I read up that they are a small internal crack and if they are present from top to bottom, it could compromise the durability of the diamond.

https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104114149044/grading-report
I am currently waiting for scope images, will update again once I receive them.

Appreciate your views.
 

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Hi all experts, would like to seek your opinion on this diamond.

Any issues with the proportion? I know this is a cushion diamond, so I can't compare it to the most ideal round proportion. Like, is the table % too narrow? Is the girdle too thick?

Should I be worried about the feather inclusion? I read up that they are a small internal crack and if they are present from top to bottom, it could compromise the durability of the diamond.

https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104114149044/grading-report
I am currently waiting for scope images, will update again once I receive them.

Appreciate your views.

Cushions usually have thicker girdles becos of the shape so that's ok. It took me quite awhile to find where the feather was on the cert.. It's so small. Haha. Feather will be a durability problem if it cuts through the girdle, but from what I see on the plot diagram, the feather is not cutting through. Plus cushions have thicker girdle and yours is a VVS2. I'm sure JP would have done the qc already since they are the ones that keeps telling others to avoid durability risks in their videos. Would love to see photos or videos of your diamond :)
 

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Saw this on Paul's instagram,

JP's white series is gonna have a new cut in their collection soon! An emerald!


Did they say when it will be out? Emerald cut was actually my first diamond choice last time but I always felt it looked dark and not as sparkly as the rounds. So I had to give up that choice. Now they have an emerald white series :love: I'm trying to to see their website, insta and fb but can't find more info about it le.
 

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Did they say when it will be out? Emerald cut was actually my first diamond choice last time but I always felt it looked dark and not as sparkly as the rounds. So I had to give up that choice. Now they have an emerald white series :love: I'm trying to to see their website, insta and fb but can't find more info about it le.

I dont think its officially out yet. It's only on Paul's instagram. He just posted a new video of it.

 

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Proposed to my gf liao :D Sharing my ring pics!
Special thanks to Avery for being very patient with us. There were just too many choices and all their White Series cuts have their own unique points. We changed our deposit afew times and chose their White Series Round 10. We visited their store 6 times in total to discuss about our diamond and design. Throughout the whole process, Avery was very accommodating and giving us good advice. She was even replying our whatsapp msges at 3am.. Didn't expect this at all, but am amazed by her dedication.

My diamond is a 1.05 G VVS2 White Series Round 10. It's a custom cut order that was suppose to be a F-G, VS1-VS2. The clarity turned out higher than expected so we got a free clarity upgrade =:p If you can wait to custom cut your diamond, it's worth the wait.

Our initial concern was the rose gold crown head. Cos we read that rosegold rings can affect the diamond color. My gf wanted some rose gold elements, while keeping the base white. Avery assured us that the rose gold crown has been done before on other white series cut and it was fine. Their white series light return is much higher than even the SICs. So it won't see through the diamond to the rose gold.

Here's a pic from the front. Diamond still look very white :) In fact, some of her friend's even thought it was a ''D'' Color. Glad we followed Avery's suggestions.

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This is with some morning sun shining on the diamond. Can see the sparkles of the diamond reflecting on the table. I think because the diamond is so bright and sparkly, it makes it look bigger than expected. I've seen my other friends 1ct rings before but don't rem them looking this big. Or maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see :s13:

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Hello, I am actually looking for something around this for a ring. mind sharing what's the ct range and the price you was quoted in addition to the F-G, VS1-VS2? Thanks alot!
 

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I dont think its officially out yet. It's only on Paul's instagram. He just posted a new video of it.



Wow. That's like day and night. I'm not a big fan of step cut diamonds because I always thought out of all the different cuts, the step cut style is the least brilliant. But now this has changed my mind. I noticed the 4 corners edges are abit different too. The normal emerald has 1 chamfer and their new emerald has 2 chamfer. I think that might be one of the reason why the corners are also much brighter.
 

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Can any kindsoul help to comment if this is a good spec? Also, i am unable to find out the HCA score. Any idea how to do so?

AGS 104114228022
4.74 - 4.76 X 2.91mm
0.395 cts E IF
Table Width: 53.9%
Crown Height: 15.4%
Pavillion Depth: 43.5%
 

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Hi,

Can any kindsoul help me see this diamond and comment please

AGS 104112814009
0.702 E VS1

Proportions are good. Only thing I'm uncomfortable with is the flat carat weight. Usually ppl will avoid these round numbers like ''0.70'' for various reasons. Also, from the AGS Cert's ASET, it seems like it's a painted girdle, but I might be wrong. The AGS ASET is a computer generated image so it might not be accurate. Do you have the Actual ASET image of the diamond? If it has painted girdles, it wouldn't be classified as a Super Ideal Cut liao.
 

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Can any kindsoul help to comment if this is a good spec? Also, i am unable to find out the HCA score. Any idea how to do so?

AGS 104114228022
4.74 - 4.76 X 2.91mm
0.395 cts E IF
Table Width: 53.9%
Crown Height: 15.4%
Pavillion Depth: 43.5%

You can get the HCA score here, https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
But yours is a modified round brilliant, and JP's white series round. The HCA only works on those normal round brilliants with 57 facets. It doesn't work on other shapes or modified rounds. JP's white series round is 111 facets if im not mistaken. So the facet structure is completely different and the HCA won't be applicable already. The scopes would be more important in this case.

Nice rare size on the 0.39ct. Just before it touches the next 0.40 mark. The Color and Clarity grade is very high. Personally, I think no need to do for such high grades for the white series as they are already superior in the brightness and can save money on a lower color/clarity without affecting the visual appearance by too much. But in the 0.3ct range, I don't think it might make much of a cost difference.
 

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Hi cutiepie, thanks for your input. Appreciated. Any idea if $2.5k is considered too high? I saw that james allen could buy the same diamond for $1.6k.
 

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Hi cutiepie, thanks for your input. Appreciated. Any idea if $2.5k is considered too high? I saw that james allen could buy the same diamond for $1.6k.

James allen's ACA(their best diamond) is probably equivilant to JP's Super ideal cut 8H&A only. The AGS cert you uploaded is a Round10 hearts and arrows, so to say "same diamond" is not accurate, as JP's 10H&A is the superior cut.

Some things to consider, did you include GST for your James allen pricing? Also, if you dont plan on buying the ring setting from James allen, do note JP wont help you make the ring unless you buy the diamond from them, you will need to approach another craftsman to craft your ring if you buy the diamond from James allen.

As for the price, the price you quoted reflects the superior cut of JP, the Color of E grade(2nd highest), and IF Clarity. If say you feel you dont need such a high clarity and color grade, can always trade for a lower grade but larger carat weight. End of the day , "high" is really a matter of perspective, and what's important to you in your diamond.
 
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Hi cutiepie, thanks for your input. Appreciated. Any idea if $2.5k is considered too high? I saw that james allen could buy the same diamond for $1.6k.

James Allen diamonds are not the same as JP's SIC or their white series. Their best cuts are their ''True Hearts'' series and even that is not equivalent to JP's SIC. Their business model is by drop shipment so they don't actually own the diamonds they sell but do JIT goods. Plus they dont even let you see the certificate on the website so you cant see the proportions of the diamond you're buying. lol. I would rank them JA's True Hearts > JP's SIC > JP's White Series.
 

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Proportions are good. Only thing I'm uncomfortable with is the flat carat weight. Usually ppl will avoid these round numbers like ''0.70'' for various reasons. Also, from the AGS Cert's ASET, it seems like it's a painted girdle, but I might be wrong. The AGS ASET is a computer generated image so it might not be accurate. Do you have the Actual ASET image of the diamond? If it has painted girdles, it wouldn't be classified as a Super Ideal Cut liao.
James allen's ACA(their best diamond) is probably equivilant to JP's Super ideal cut 8H&A only. The AGS cert you uploaded is a Round10 hearts and arrows, so to say "same diamond" is not accurate, as JP's 10H&A is the superior cut.

Some things to consider, did you include GST for your James allen pricing? Also, if you dont plan on buying the ring setting from James allen, do note JP wont help you make the ring unless you buy the diamond from them, you will need to approach another craftsman to craft your ring if you buy the diamond from James allen.

As for the price, the price you quoted reflects the superior cut of JP, the Color of E grade(2nd highest), and IF Clarity. If say you feel you dont need such a high clarity and color grade, can always trade for a lower grade but larger carat weight. End of the day , "high" is really a matter of perspective, and what's important to you in your diamond.

Proportions are good. Only thing I'm uncomfortable with is the flat carat weight. Usually ppl will avoid these round numbers like ''0.70'' for various reasons. Also, from the AGS Cert's ASET, it seems like it's a painted girdle, but I might be wrong. The AGS ASET is a computer generated image so it might not be accurate. Do you have the Actual ASET image of the diamond? If it has painted girdles, it wouldn't be classified as a Super Ideal Cut liao.
Hi,

I do have the link. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4359564.htm.

Kindly advise and teach me.
Finally collected my decagon ring!! Preordered my decagon diamond from Jannpaul afew months back. It took almost 2 months for them to custom cut it out and another month to craft the ring. Diamond is a 0.52 G VVS2 (originally meant to be F-G, VS1-VS2 range). I benefitted for the higher clarity as they capped the cost to a VS1 clarity. So I kinda got a free clarity upgrade :D

Thank you all for the recommendations, the wait was worthwhile, their service has been excellent but I think everyone knows that already from the past threads. At least my proposal plan now will work with phase 3 opening up so decided to finally collect my ring; heres my review thus far:

Their white series collection are all significantly brighter and firey than even their SIC. Price wise IMO is extremely worth the trade-off. It's damn sparkly at all angles man. I brought the ring to different places with different types of lights. The decagon lives up to its name and sparkles away. Whenever I move the diamond ring abit or my head angle, it will have alot of those on/off bling effect. I don't have a creative mind and chose one of JP's ring design I found on their instagram in their petite series. The small diamonds on the bands are decagon cuts too and they're all cut like wins as well (I have an ASET without the backing if anyone wishes to borrow). You need to face up towards the light or use your handphone as the backlight.

I've brought my ring around to various jewelry shops, mostly all around in Ion and in each shop it really just outshines everything I walked past. The decagon small diamonds were a big surpriser compared to what shops have as small diamonds. They sparkle as much as my main piece and completes the ring well

Another thing I noticed is the workmanship as my eyes can tell is extremely symmetrical vs even big brands. Big thumbs up to JP! Was serviced by 3 people from JP; Chloe, Eugene and Avery.Anyway, here's a video of my ring under sunlight taken from a camera phone. Good luck to everyone else there and my findings to help you out.



P.S. My decagon is a G color and like the rest of the other bros said, their white series G Color still looks very white. For those who are thinking of the G color too, you can see my video for ref.
How much it cost with settings?
 
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