Proposal Ring - Part 4

[chesterchew]

Found a JP video of what to see for ring inspection. I was using their hearts/arrows scope's magnification lens to see my ring. The craftmanship is really superb man. Anyway, for those collecting their diamond rings, this is useful to see what to QC for.




I can keep watching their crafting videos on their insta. Its quite calming and additive

This is very useful!

 

[clemiboi]

I got a moissanite ring for the wedding. The a heart shape pattern. The fire and the refractions is pretty awesome!

Hello. I am also looking for a lab grown diamond. Could you share: 1) Where did you get yours (i saw Love & Co having lots of good reviews) and 2) where other places did you consider and 3) anything i should know before buying them?
Thanks a lot

 

[freewilly5000]

Hello. I am also looking for a lab grown diamond. Could you share: 1) Where did you get yours (i saw Love & Co having lots of good reviews) and 2) where other places did you consider and 3) anything i should know before buying them?
Thanks a lot

I'm surprised ppl are buying lab growns from Love & Co. Their 1cts are $7-8k,literally double of what JP is selling. And theirs are all IGI certified while JP ones are white series and AGS cert. I suggest you attend JP's diamond lesson and then you go around to compare. There's alot about lab growns that jewellers don't tell you.

Not all lab grown diamonds are the same though. From what I read online, main problems with lab growns right now is that many new diamond growers are rushing into growing them and shortcuts in the process. This creates bad quality lab diamonds and can many issues like off hues and stria. I think the more common problem is stria. It makes the diamond look fuzzy from the many ''growth lines?''. It won't be obvious in jewelry shop lights btw. It's only when you see it in softer light settings. This is a good read on problems of lab grown diamonds to avoid - https://www.diamondscreener.com/edu...o-look-for-when-buying-a-lab-created-diamond/

That's also why all these sellers are certifying these lab growns in IGI certificate, which is a really crap lab. I would only stick to GIA or AGS. I hope yours is not IGI. Like I see the ones from Micheal Trio are all IGI.

Another point to consider is the difference in the Cut. JP's ovals are the oval hearts and arrows. The other ovals you're comparing against is the normal oval which looks very different (you see the oval video from the earlier post). Normal ovals have alot of light leakages (no hearts & arrows). I think you're might be confusing that all oval cuts are the same.

 

[clemiboi]

I'm surprised ppl are buying lab growns from Love & Co. Their 1cts are $7-8k,literally double of what JP is selling. And theirs are all IGI certified while JP ones are white series and AGS cert. I suggest you attend JP's diamond lesson and then you go around to compare. There's alot about lab growns that jewellers don't tell you.

Thanks freewilly. I am very new to this and learnt that lab grown diamonds are at least 30-50% cheaper than real diamonds from online education. Hence, I just casually saw reviews of Love&Co and they were mostly good - so i thought they would be priced modestly - but does not seem to be the case. I also read through some 20+pages of thread and found that Love&Co are overpriced than JP.

There is no ready information on JP's white series - it appears they don't offer any lab grown diamonds.

Do JP offer lab-grown diamonds? I'll attend their lesson. & if there are any other vendors worth considering, please let me know

 

[musingsofserene]

Hello! I just got my Decagon AGS certificate today. Can the gurus here help me to see if it's good? Should I be worried about the feather inclusion?

 

[clemiboi]

Does anyone have experience or knowledge with gemstone engagement rings?

I found a blog post
https://shopee.sg/blog/design-gemstone-engagement-ring-singapore/
It'll be nice to narrow down with people's comments here on which ones are recommended please - thanks

 

[FroztSpectre]

Whoa now JP also got into Lab-grown diamonds ah? Too long nvr follow JP already.
Interesting, how much, or what is the price difference between their lab-grown diamonds and their other natural diamonds.

 

[freewilly5000]

Thanks freewilly. I am very new to this and learnt that lab grown diamonds are at least 30-50% cheaper than real diamonds from online education. Hence, I just casually saw reviews of Love&Co and they were mostly good - so i thought they would be priced modestly - but does not seem to be the case. I also read through some 20+pages of thread and found that Love&Co are overpriced than JP.

There is no ready information on JP's white series - it appears they don't offer any lab grown diamonds.

Do JP offer lab-grown diamonds? I'll attend their lesson. & if there are any other vendors worth considering, please let me know

I think it can be more than 50% less. Just that alot of places might be overpricing it. JP's White Series have lab growns. Best bet is to go for JP's education first. They're the most comprehensive and transparent ones. Other places usually just go through the basic 4Cs without explaining much about Cut. After getting the knowledge from JP, you can do your own due diligence and compare else where. Then you'll find out why everyone ends up getting theirs in JP. lol

 

[freewilly5000]

Hello! I just got my Decagon AGS certificate today. Can the gurus here help me to see if it's good? Should I be worried about the feather inclusion?

Yours VVS2 feather is ok la. No risks over there. That's a nice decagon with a rare 0.68ct size.

 

[Miltah]

Whoa now JP also got into Lab-grown diamonds ah? Too long nvr follow JP already.
Interesting, how much, or what is the price difference between their lab-grown diamonds and their other natural diamonds.

About $4k for a 1caret lab grown.
A mined option is easily double…

 

[FroztSpectre]

About $4k for a 1caret lab grown.
A mined option is easily double…

Fiancee doesn't like big diamonds.
Was thinking max of 0.5 or 0.6 carat for her. Don't know if JP has that kind of lab-grown diamonds.
Maybe can upgrade her current JP's ring to a 0.5 or 0.6carat lab-grown diamond in the future lol.

 

[Moomoofed]

Dear gurus, I need some help though. I cannot decide quality or carat. Any advice which one to go for?

I have a white series round 10
0.724 F VVS2 - $7.8k with setting.
AGS 104112813064

or


0.85 F VS2 - $6944k with setting
(non JP)
GIA - 2367830323

Is the non JP stone even good?

 

[musingsofserene]

Dear gurus, I need some help though. I cannot decide quality or carat. Any advice which one to go for?

I have a white series round 10
0.724 F VVS2 - $7.8k with setting.
AGS 104112813064

or


0.85 F VS2 - $6944k with setting
(non JP)
GIA - 2367830323

Is the non JP stone even good?

I would definitely go with JP. They are very strict when it comes to the quality of their diamonds. The non JP diamond's clarity is VS2 only, whereas JP's one is VVS2. There is crystal and cloud inclusions which may result in the diamond not looking as bright as the JP's one. After awhile you will probably find that the diamond looks "cloudy".

 

[1000smiles]

Dear gurus, I need some help though. I cannot decide quality or carat. Any advice which one to go for?

I have a white series round 10
0.724 F VVS2 - $7.8k with setting.
AGS 104112813064

or


0.85 F VS2 - $6944k with setting
(non JP)
GIA - 2367830323

Is the non JP stone even good?

The 0.85ct is a very steep deep cut. It’s gonna look smaller for its carat weight and will in fact look darker. I don’t see the value in getting a poorer cut just for the size as the better cut 0.72ct will be much more eye catching. And it’s the white series cut too which is even better than a SIC. My vote is with JP.

 

[yoongcy421]

Fiancee doesn't like big diamonds.
Was thinking max of 0.5 or 0.6 carat for her. Don't know if JP has that kind of lab-grown diamonds.
Maybe can upgrade her current JP's ring to a 0.5 or 0.6carat lab-grown diamond in the future lol.

Yes JP got this size lab grown for white series: round or decagon etc . Will be less than $3k last i checked

 

[Moomoofed]

The 0.85ct is a very steep deep cut. It’s gonna look smaller for its carat weight and will in fact look darker. I don’t see the value in getting a poorer cut just for the size as the better cut 0.72ct will be much more eye catching. And it’s the white series cut too which is even better than a SIC. My vote is with JP.

Yes, it is smaller than a regular 0.85 though. Seems like a 0.8 size. Thanks for sharing your opinion!!

 

[Moomoofed]

I would definitely go with JP. They are very strict when it comes to the quality of their diamonds. The non JP diamond's clarity is VS2 only, whereas JP's one is VVS2. There is crystal and cloud inclusions which may result in the diamond not looking as bright as the JP's one. After awhile you will probably find that the diamond looks "cloudy".

Hello serene! Yes you are right, it doesn’t look as bright as JP one. But, I didn’t know that a lower clarity will cause the diamond to look “cloudy” over time. Can share further on this? I thought the inclusions in a diamond will remain as they were from the very first day of purchase. Of course there might dirt / dust over time!

 

[musingsofserene]

Yours VVS2 feather is ok la. No risks over there. That's a nice decagon with a rare 0.68ct size.

Thank you! It's a custom cut decagon!

 

[musingsofserene]

Hello serene! Yes you are right, it doesn’t look as bright as JP one. But, I didn’t know that a lower clarity will cause the diamond to look “cloudy” over time. Can share further on this? I thought the inclusions in a diamond will remain as they were from the very first day of purchase. Of course there might dirt / dust over time!

You can check out this video by JP. 6 min mark onwards will be on inclusions. Their diamond education is really good. I like how they are transparent and you know what you are getting unlike some other places which can be quite shady.

 

[Miltah]

Hello serene! Yes you are right, it doesn’t look as bright as JP one. But, I didn’t know that a lower clarity will cause the diamond to look “cloudy” over time. Can share further on this? I thought the inclusions in a diamond will remain as they were from the very first day of purchase. Of course there might dirt / dust over time!

If that were true of all inclusions then we would only be buying internally flawless stones
Not all inclusions reduce Brightness and it’s certainly the skill of the cutter in ‘hiding’ those inclusions during cutting