Recommendations for Gaming Desktop

[DestinyDreamer]

I do not understand the waiting game sometimes. There is always something that will be better than what you will wait for. Say tomorrow AMD releases the 3000 series only to be met with a counter by Intel a few months down the road decimating the 3000 series. I say just buy what is available now. CPU's are hardly a bottleneck for gaming unless you are playing in 1080p. At 1440p or greater, you are not going to notice anything substantial at all. Invest in a competent GPU instead of waiting for the latest and the best. You stand to save some $$$.

Most CPU's for the last few iterations only offered minor performance changes especially Intel; looking strictly from the IPC perspective. And for gaming, I think 6-8 cores will last a while. After moving to the 9700k, I realized that hyperthreading or SMT as what some of you might come to know of it, really offers minor performance improvements for the majority of game titles. If you look strictly from the gaming standpoint and seen reviews, the 9700k has outperformed ever so slightly the more expensive and hotter 9900k across majority of the game titles and running cooler. 5Ghz pretty much is a piece of cake on the 9600k/9700k. 9900k is a nightmare even with a slight overclock where you hit the thermal wall almost instantly. Physical Cores > Thread Cores.

I would also rather invest in a proven platform like the Z390 / AM4 platform as this has been out for a while and you will not have to bother much with stuff like RAM incompatibilities and so forth. The upcoming AMD and Intel CPU's and it's respective platforms would have isolated issues on their own at launch and that may detract your computing experience which is why sometimes newer is not always the best.

Just my 2c...

I mostly agree with what you said except for the highlighted portion. You obviously have no issues on budget since you bought a top of the line model of 2080 ti. Ordinary folks wanna get the best value for what they paid for. We all know what happened during the release of GTX 10 series card. The leap in performancerice ratio, features, efficiency absolutely destroyed the previous generation. Amd's response was mediocre at best, churning cheap low end cards that runs at sky high temperature and power comsumption. I seriously don't think intel can properly response to AMD's current threat to match their price for the performance it offers, not EVEN close.

And for as CPU not being a bottleneck.... that would be true if you are talking about the past. Last time, 4 cores/ 4 threads was deemed more than enough for gaming. Forward to the present. You would see the same cpu peaking at 100% utilization vs an i5 9600k when playing BF V, resulting on huge fps dips on 1440p. And we are talking about the present only. Only god knows how much is deemed sufficient when you play AAA games 3 years down the road.

I'm not saying u should spend too much on CPU. But I'm saying AMD upcoming release, offers the solution (more physical cores, higher clock speeds) at an insane low price.

If money is not a factor, I would agree with you, completely.

 

[elmariachi]

I mostly agree with what you said except for the highlighted portion. You obviously have no issues on budget since you bought a top of the line model of 2080 ti. Ordinary folks wanna get the best value for what they paid for. We all know what happened during the release of GTX 10 series card. The leap in performancerice ratio, features, efficiency absolutely destroyed the previous generation. Amd's response was mediocre at best, churning cheap low end cards that runs at sky high temperature and power comsumption. I seriously don't think intel can properly response to AMD's current threat to match their price for the performance it offers, not EVEN close.

And for as CPU not being a bottleneck.... that would be true if you are talking about the past. Last time, 4 cores/ 4 threads was deemed more than enough for gaming. Forward to the present. You would see the same cpu peaking at 100% utilization vs an i5 9600k when playing BF V, resulting on huge fps dips on 1440p. And we are talking about the present only. Only god knows how much is deemed sufficient when you play AAA games 3 years down the road.

I'm not saying u should spend too much on CPU. But I'm saying AMD upcoming release, offers the solution (more physical cores, higher clock speeds) at an insane low price.

If money is not a factor, I would agree with you, completely.

Point well noted and accepted Bro.
I wasn't mentioning anything about GPU. What I am trying to say is that CPUs today are fast enough that is doesn't really matter whether you choose the current one or wait for a newer one. I mean if 3000 series is out shortly, then might as well wait for that. But if you hop into the 3000 series then Intel launches a new model to counter the 3000 series totally decimating it, then it's a neverending game. Sure Intel is gonna be pricey over the AMD but really if you're gaming at 1440p, either processor isn't going to flinch. One of the reasons I changed out even my 6700k is because of BF5 that had my CPU running more than 80% consistently and GPU dropped to 70-80% usage.

Now it's sitting at 99% GPU usage with CPU sitting around 60-70% across all my cores. So 4 cores 4 threads even today is inadequate for new titles.

 

[aCuria]

Point well noted and accepted Bro.
I wasn't mentioning anything about GPU. What I am trying to say is that CPUs today are fast enough that is doesn't really matter whether you choose the current one or wait for a newer one.

It depends what you do, games like Monster hunter, civilization, ... are very CPU intensive

 

[elmariachi]

It depends what you do, games like Monster hunter, civilization, ... are very CPU intensive

Agreed. BFV is also very CPU intensive compared to other games I've played. Yes my games are a small library but I can say newer games are definitely going to put the higher core count to use but there is probably a limit to the number of cores game developers would want to code at optimally.

 

[charliebrown]

get a 9600k and overclocked to 5ghz. damn good gaming performance. almost quite similar to 9700k

was eyeing on i5-9600k as well for my new build until i came across this >>>

ht_tps://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3407-intel-i5-9600k-cpu-review-vs-2700-2600-8700k

i gave up on intel i5 series and got e i7-9700k.

 

[jnashville]

was eyeing on i5-9600k as well for my new build until i came across this >>>

ht_tps://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3407-intel-i5-9600k-cpu-review-vs-2700-2600-8700k

i gave up on intel i5 series and got e i7-9700k.

Seems like only 1 inconsistency of frame rates in far cry, other than that, it faired well in gaming.

But of course, I will take i7 9700k anytime.

 

[dormito]

Hi all,
I'm back after waiting til July 2019 for the Ryzen 3000 series. Is it out in Singapore now?

My current build for my PC is :
Main Processor
AMD Ryzen 3000 series - Is it out yet ?
Mainboard
X470 Motherboard
Graphics Card
RTX 2080
Memory RAM
8GB x2
Display
Prism X340
Storage
2TB couple with a 256ssd
Casing
NXZT H500 chassis
PSU
550w - 650w
Audio
Onboard Realtek ALC audio
Cooler
Not sure if needed
OS
Windows 10 64bit

Just a refresher Mainly using my rig for gaming My budget will be 3K plus Any recommendations are appreciated

 

[PM Checklist]

Hi all,
I'm back after waiting til July 2019 for the Ryzen 3000 series. Is it out in Singapore now?

My current build for my PC is :
Main Processor
AMD Ryzen 3000 series - Is it out yet ?
Mainboard
X470 Motherboard
Graphics Card
RTX 2080
Memory RAM
8GB x2
Display
Prism X340
Storage
2TB couple with a 256ssd
Casing
NXZT H500 chassis
PSU
550w - 650w
Audio
Onboard Realtek ALC audio
Cooler
Not sure if needed
OS
Windows 10 64bit

Just a refresher Mainly using my rig for gaming My budget will be 3K plus Any recommendations are appreciated

Try to contact this person in Carousell (link below)..SGD $780 for a Ryzen 3600+MSI B450 Tomahawk Max+Klev 16Gb 3200+Adata 512Gb SX8200pro+240mm AIO seems like a very good deal. Its brand new and comes with local warranty. You just need a power supply, a case and a GPU. I think he also sells those things too. And maybe can ask him to build for you.

https://sg.carousell.com/p/see-desc...dle-amd-msi-klevv-adata-id-cooling-241887893/

 

[dormito]

Try to contact this person in Carousell (link below)..SGD $780 for a Ryzen 3600+MSI B450 Tomahawk Max+Klev 16Gb 3200+Adata 512Gb SX8200pro+240mm AIO seems like a very good deal. Its brand new and comes with local warranty. You just need a power supply, a case and a GPU. I think he also sells those things too. And maybe can ask him to build for you.

https://sg.carousell.com/p/see-desc...dle-amd-msi-klevv-adata-id-cooling-241887893/

Thanks for your reply
Planning to buy from PC Themes at Sim Lim Square as recommended by some here. Will the price difference be very big?

 

[MagixuserII]

Thanks for your reply
Planning to buy from PC Themes at Sim Lim Square as recommended by some here. Will the price difference be very big?

You can download the pricelist from HWZ, but based from the pricelist of PCT:
Ryzen 3600 + B450 Tomahawk mobo $476
Adata 512Gb SX8200 pro $133
ID cooling Auraflow 240 $73
Klevv DDR4 3200 Cras X should be around $140-150

you saved about $50...

 

[stanley_home]

Try to contact this person in Carousell (link below)..SGD $780 for a Ryzen 3600+MSI B450 Tomahawk Max+Klev 16Gb 3200+Adata 512Gb SX8200pro+240mm AIO seems like a very good deal. Its brand new and comes with local warranty. You just need a power supply, a case and a GPU. I think he also sells those things too. And maybe can ask him to build for you.

https://sg.carousell.com/p/see-desc...dle-amd-msi-klevv-adata-id-cooling-241887893/

wah... good deal.

sianz.. buy liao then see this.

 

[dormito]

You can download the pricelist from HWZ, but based from the pricelist of PCT:
Ryzen 3600 + B450 Tomahawk mobo $476
Adata 512Gb SX8200 pro $133
ID cooling Auraflow 240 $73
Klevv DDR4 3200 Cras X should be around $140-150

you saved about $50...

Hmmm in that case might be worth it to just get from PC themes? Simpler to do everything at one place and if any problems can go back to them

Will need help in recommendations for my build though (from previous recommendations)

Main Processor - AMD Ryzen 3600+MSI B450 Tomahawk
Graphics Card - GALAX RTX 2080 8GB BLACK O.C or GALAX RTX 2070 8GB EX WHITE
Memory RAM - CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 3200MHZ CL16 ( 8GBx2pcs )
Display - Prism X340
Storage - SAMSUNG EVO 860 250GB M.2 SSD + TOSHIBA 2TB 7200RPM 2YRS P300 RED
Casing - NXZT H500 chassis or C.M MASTER CASE MB520 RGB T-GLASS with 3 RGB fan
PSU - 550w - 650w EVGA G+ 650W 80+ GOLD 10YRS
Audio - Onboard Realtek ALC audio
Cooler – Heard Ryzen 3000 series will be very hot and will need a cooler Any recommendations?
OS - Windows 10 64bit

Sorry but really noob in this so will appreciate any guidance !

 

[kenzi87]

Hmmm in that case might be worth it to just get from PC themes? Simpler to do everything at one place and if any problems can go back to them

Will need help in recommendations for my build though (from previous recommendations)

Main Processor - AMD Ryzen 3600+MSI B450 Tomahawk
Graphics Card - GALAX RTX 2080 8GB BLACK O.C or GALAX RTX 2070 8GB EX WHITE
Memory RAM - CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 3200MHZ CL16 ( 8GBx2pcs )
Display - Prism X340
Storage - SAMSUNG EVO 860 250GB M.2 SSD + TOSHIBA 2TB 7200RPM 2YRS P300 RED
Casing - NXZT H500 chassis or C.M MASTER CASE MB520 RGB T-GLASS with 3 RGB fan
PSU - 550w - 650w EVGA G+ 650W 80+ GOLD 10YRS
Audio - Onboard Realtek ALC audio
Cooler – Heard Ryzen 3000 series will be very hot and will need a cooler Any recommendations?
OS - Windows 10 64bit

Sorry but really noob in this so will appreciate any guidance !

The Max series for tomahawk is out

 

[dormito]

The Max series for tomahawk is out

So I should get the Tomahawk max series? Which one?
Is it available in SG already?