Redmi Note 9

[GoodBetterBest]

There is actually no confusion... it's just that Singaporeans are an impatient lot and want to get their hands on the latest phones before they are released in our market... so they want to buy whatever is out there, whether it an India or China launched phone... then complain it's confusing... if you stick to buying the phones from Singapore official Xiaomi retailers, then the naming is pretty standard... and that's the global international model...

China & India are huge markets... prioritizing these markets with exclusive models makes economic sense since they cater for the specific demographics of those huge billion people market... Singapore's marketing so tiny, what we buy probably doesn't even make a dent in Xiaomi's figures for one state or province in India or China... so we just got to take whatever is thrown at us lor... that's the reality...

Xiaomi won't be as successful as it is today if they don't know what they're doing... they know what they're doing and they're very good at it...

May be not to you. Let me share.. last time Redmi (no Note) range are the smaller size phone. At least, that's to me. Now it's as big as the Redmi Note.

I see Samsung is more consistent and even their note and then their plus... somehow, I still find it easier to follow their range.

Last time, I can't remember which model now... when I get the case for my xiaomi, I must be very sure what to order and double check for pro or something. Even the seller online must clearly state so that we don't make mistake. Cause the size is different.

Oh yes, then there was the picophone (which I wanted to buy for my next phone when they have a new one coming) which don't know what happen to it.

And they have so many other "sub brand" like Roidmi, etc. I first thought it was XiaoMi, then it wasn't. Then Xiaomi sells vacuum cleaner made by them ? Today, somebody just asked me the Deerma... thought it was XiaoMi, then not sure. May be you don't think it's fair to include this... but these are the things that make the XiaoMi brand confusing.

Ok, just to name a few.

If Xiaomi wants to build a brand that we can stick to, then they have to do more long term marketing planning. Focus on the marketing side as well and not just the technology side of things.

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

Redmi K30 4G does support micro SD card up to 256GB, though not too sure if Xiaomi intends to bring it in to Singapore.

I will only buy with Singapore ROM... too troublesome to jump through all the hoops lor...

 

[Teo Ming Ern]

May be not to you. Let me share.. last time Redmi (no Note) range are the smaller size phone. At least, that's to me. Now it's as big as the Redmi Note.

I see Samsung is more consistent and even their note and then their plus... somehow, I still find it easier to follow their range.

Last time, I can't remember which model now... when I get the case for my xiaomi, I must be very sure what to order and double check for pro or something. Even the seller online must clearly state so that we don't make mistake. Cause the size is different.

Oh yes, then there was the picophone (which I wanted to buy for my next phone when they have a new one coming) which don't know what happen to it.

And they have so many other "sub brand" like Roidmi, etc. I first thought it was XiaoMi, then it wasn't. Then Xiaomi sells vacuum cleaner made by them ? Today, somebody just asked me the Deerma... thought it was XiaoMi, then not sure. May be you don't think it's fair to include this... but these are the things that make the XiaoMi brand confusing.

Ok, just to name a few.

If Xiaomi wants to build a brand that we can stick to, then they have to do more long term marketing planning. Focus on the marketing side as well and not just the technology side of things.

Agree... there's a lot of fragmentation of the market due to many sub-categories... even Samsung does it... look at their A range... crazy number of phones... from A10 to A90 with some available only in India market, some only in China, some only in Eastern Europe, and others in SEA... just the A50 model is confusing enough - there's A50 (old model), then there's A50s which is the upgraded version and now there's a A51 model... not to mention the M line, the C line and the J line... equally confusing... but they're meant for different markets...

The confusion arises partly also because of the internet... we can watch product launches for different markets, we can read about models from all market segments, and online shopping means we can get our hands on models from different market segments as well... hence we have to check carefully what we're buying... in the first place, these companies never meant for cross-selling in different markets hence similar sounding names and slight differentiation...

For Xiaomi, the global Redmi series is quite logical, there's always a base model, a mid-range model, and top-end series... the same applies for the Redmi and the Redmi Note series... each market has their own naming convention for each of these segments... buying cross-market causes the confusion... then when we buy an India model, we say how come don't have this or that feature - well the market for this model in India probably doesn't need it - like NFC, etc... and so on and so forth - sometimes it's just a marketing decision to move buyers to a higher value model for better profit margins...

In marketing in the past, clear segmentation between categories make it easy for consumers to differentiate between products and decide which suits their pockets and needs... but the world has changed... clear segmentation doesn't work since a rival will one-up you with a model that has some of your flagship features and sell it just a little above your mid-range model... this constant upgrading and pushing new models is a result of the constant need to claw back market share and lead in each market segment, leading to overlapping models and sub-brands and subtle differences in models. Either take a focused marketing model like Apple (even they succumb to fragmentation of model lines), or take a scattergun approach and cover all your bases. Xiaomi has decided on the latter to corner the budget to mid-range segment and leave the ultra-high end to the big boys for now...

But as we all can observe in almost every product line, the ultra-high end is very lucrative, and everyone wants to muscle in on it... and so you spin off sub-brands in order not to spoil the brand image of the ultra-luxe brands... think Hyundai & Genesis... Huawei - they spun off the Honor brand as the value brand name and left Huawei branding to take in only the top end... this was a successful split... one more brand, one more range of models... confusing of course... but if we stick to our region's models, the marketing is generally sensible... no company will deliberately try to confuse consumers... not companies as large as Xiaomi or Huawei or Samsung...

So if you like to be first or like to buy cheaper, then just have to live with the confusion lor... ha ha... that's the price of being first to own it or get it cheaper... peace...

 

[GoodBetterBest]

I just stating a point from my point of view. If XiaoMi listens, understand the frustration of their buyers and try to improve things, won't that be good ? We don't have to agree. We are different people. You don't know me.
You can don't agree. You can give reasons. But you shouldn't tell people how they should view things and don't characterise people. You don't know me.
Thanks. My last on this.

Agree... there's a lot of fragmentation of the market due to many sub-categories... even Samsung does it... look at their A range... crazy number of phones... from A10 to A90 with some available only in India market, some only in China, some only in Eastern Europe, and others in SEA... just the A50 model is confusing enough - there's A50 (old model), then there's A50s which is the upgraded version and now there's a A51 model... not to mention the M line, the C line and the J line... equally confusing... but they're meant for different markets...

The confusion arises partly also because of the internet... we can watch product launches for different markets, we can read about models from all market segments, and online shopping means we can get our hands on models from different market segments as well... hence we have to check carefully what we're buying... in the first place, these companies never meant for cross-selling in different markets hence similar sounding names and slight differentiation...

For Xiaomi, the global Redmi series is quite logical, there's always a base model, a mid-range model, and top-end series... the same applies for the Redmi and the Redmi Note series... each market has their own naming convention for each of these segments... buying cross-market causes the confusion... then when we buy an India model, we say how come don't have this or that feature - well the market for this model in India probably doesn't need it - like NFC, etc... and so on and so forth - sometimes it's just a marketing decision to move buyers to a higher value model for better profit margins...

In marketing in the past, clear segmentation between categories make it easy for consumers to differentiate between products and decide which suits their pockets and needs... but the world has changed... clear segmentation doesn't work since a rival will one-up you with a model that has some of your flagship features and sell it just a little above your mid-range model... this constant upgrading and pushing new models is a result of the constant need to claw back market share and lead in each market segment, leading to overlapping models and sub-brands and subtle differences in models. Either take a focused marketing model like Apple (even they succumb to fragmentation of model lines), or take a scattergun approach and cover all your bases. Xiaomi has decided on the latter to corner the budget to mid-range segment and leave the ultra-high end to the big boys for now...

But as we all can observe in almost every product line, the ultra-high end is very lucrative, and everyone wants to muscle in on it... and so you spin off sub-brands in order not to spoil the brand image of the ultra-luxe brands... think Hyundai & Genesis... Huawei - they spun off the Honor brand as the value brand name and left Huawei branding to take in only the top end... this was a successful split... one more brand, one more range of models... confusing of course... but if we stick to our region's models, the marketing is generally sensible... no company will deliberately try to confuse consumers... not companies as large as Xiaomi or Huawei or Samsung...

So if you like to be first or like to buy cheaper, then just have to live with the confusion lor... ha ha... that's the price of being first to own it or get it cheaper... peace...

 

[foxer77]

anyone using this phone having software issue?

 

[human_shieldz]

anyone using this phone having software issue?

Like? I feel their battery drain is quite fast, especially during phone in standby. Even when I off data will drain at least 1% an hour. The battery life is still great though due to the large battery, I get like 8-9hrs SOT in between 30hrs charge on average use so I shouldn't be complaining about this lol but the unusual drain feels unsettling

 

[lewissac]

Like? I feel their battery drain is quite fast, especially during phone in standby. Even when I off data will drain at least 1% an hour. The battery life is still great though due to the large battery, I get like 8-9hrs SOT in between 30hrs charge on average use so I shouldn't be complaining about this lol but the unusual drain feels unsettling

Hmm... I have data, wifi, bluetooth, GPS turn-on let it run overnight. only 3% drain for 7 hours.

Maybe depends on the app you're running on background? I'm only having my Fitbit running 24/7.

 

[ZhuTou!]

Like? I feel their battery drain is quite fast, especially during phone in standby. Even when I off data will drain at least 1% an hour. The battery life is still great though due to the large battery, I get like 8-9hrs SOT in between 30hrs charge on average use so I shouldn't be complaining about this lol but the unusual drain feels unsettling

Likely due to new battery ba
After charge few times will be ok

 

[human_shieldz]

Likely due to new battery ba
After charge few times will be ok

2 weeks already. Just as I'm typing this after I unplugged from full charge 5mins and 2% gone.

 

[human_shieldz]

Hmm... I have data, wifi, bluetooth, GPS turn-on let it run overnight. only 3% drain for 7 hours.

Maybe depends on the app you're running on background? I'm only having my Fitbit running 24/7.

I'm in 4G all the time though and except BT, the rest are all. I specially go into each so to ensure they are closed in the background if I don't use them and some apps I even restrict data if they are apps that don't require network.

Now as I'm looking at it 10mins drop from 100% to 97%. That's why I have been feeling unsettled. It's strange how I still manage 10hrs SOT before this charge

 

[lewissac]

2 weeks already. Just as I'm typing this after I unplugged from full charge 5mins and 2% gone.

Do you left it charging after full charge?

 

[lewissac]

I'm in 4G all the time though and except BT, the rest are all. I specially go into each so to ensure they are closed in the background if I don't use them and some apps I even restrict data if they are apps that don't require network.

Now as I'm looking at it 10mins drop from 100% to 97%. That's why I have been feeling unsettled. It's strange how I still manage 10hrs SOT before this charge

Hmm... seems like ur battery dying off, due to unable to hold charges. Exactly the same thing happens on my RMN3 previously before I decided to buy this RMN9S.

 

[mankind66]

I'm in 4G all the time though and except BT, the rest are all. I specially go into each so to ensure they are closed in the background if I don't use them and some apps I even restrict data if they are apps that don't require network.

Now as I'm looking at it 10mins drop from 100% to 97%. That's why I have been feeling unsettled. It's strange how I still manage 10hrs SOT before this charge

Do your phone has a lemon smell?

 

[teoph04]

Hi all, may I know when the pro variant will be put?

Sent from Samsung SM-N975F using GAGT

 

[stylechap]

I'm in 4G all the time though and except BT, the rest are all. I specially go into each so to ensure they are closed in the background if I don't use them and some apps I even restrict data if they are apps that don't require network.

Now as I'm looking at it 10mins drop from 100% to 97%. That's why I have been feeling unsettled. It's strange how I still manage 10hrs SOT before this charge

Try switch off your phone then charge to 100% from maybe 10-20%
Anyway battery won't sustain long at 100% due to wear and tear. I know this is quite a new model but sometimes xiaomi qc is not so good

 

[Anything_Whatever]

Hi all, may I know when the pro variant will be put?

Sent from Samsung SM-N975F using GAGT

According to HWZ article.... mid-May for global sale
For Singapore.... check siao mee faceboob

 

[teoph04]

According to HWZ article.... mid-May for global sale
For Singapore.... check siao mee faceboob

Ok thank you.

Sent from Samsung SM-N975F using GAGT

 

[ronnie]

Mine left overnight depreciates 4%. Try restarting your phone and if that does not work, check using battery optimization whether any app draining your battery excessively.

 

[human_shieldz]

Do you left it charging after full charge?

Not for long. I'm not the kind that charge phone overnight. Anyway, I use until 0 then charge and power on it seems better now. Funny, I did that before twice and it didn't change anything.

 

[human_shieldz]

Mine left overnight depreciates 4%. Try restarting your phone and if that does not work, check using battery optimization whether any app draining your battery excessively.

Seems fine now after I use until 0 then with power off I do full charge, dunno why it work now when it didn't before. But it still seems like it doesn't have good standby time.