Reliable Private Driving Instructor?

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hey guys,
just wanna check. I've enrolled in BBDC since the month of July. And passed my FTT & BTT and have my PDL already. But the problem is I've spent on $700 on 1x lessons in school but only covered till stage 2.3 and I feel that I'm a slow learner. Even my friend agrees on. I actually want to quit on Monday and change to a private instructor because its cheaper and they do not follow lesson by lesson (eg. today learn what, if not cannot pass) Any good Instructors to recommend? I'm taking a manual liecense. Ps, Can I book for TP straight if I apply for private Instructor? In BBDC you need to be in stage 5 to book for. & I have learnt abit of driving, so when I change do I still need to learn from the start?
Thanks:)
10 plus lesson up to 2.3 is the norm, when the instructor feels you are good, they will clear more stage in a lesson. And since you say you are a slow learn, you take private instructor and rush and you fail first time how? You will waste more money in the end. At least school they make sure you know and clear before they clear the stage. Even thou school is more expensive, they teach better and you will more time to learn the hardest part, circuit course (which private candidates doesn't have this privilege. They only can enter the circuit 4 times for each tp.)
 

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Hi. I also faced the same problem for BBDC. I spent $1400 already and I haven't even clear Stage 2. They liked to pass one module per lesson, which means it is almost 33 lessons. Sometimes, I didn't even make any mistakes and they just passed one module only. I was very frustrated, and I have the same feeling as you that I am a really slow and a poor driver. I am considering changing to private. I think it seriously saves money, provide a standard car and consistent advices. I am very unhappy with the school system, when I have to learn various driving techniques, only to be contradicted by subsequent instructors. The result is that I have to learn all over again for many lessons. Sometimes, I don't even get my fixed instructor even though I paid money for it.

Why don't you take up fixed instructor scheme in BBDC?
This time of the year is most of the instructors go for leave and as far as i know before i grad, they are planning to restructure some of the groupings as there are some instructors resigning. So ya, it could be hard to get a fixed instructor at the moment. Slow learners take up to 30 to 40 lessons before TP. Fast ones takes 20-25. And you have to think carefully, if you are slow learner and change to private, means lesser circuit lesson, results in easy failure in circuit during TP. Means more money and time wasted to wait for TP again.
 

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Why don't you take up fixed instructor scheme in BBDC?
This time of the year is most of the instructors go for leave and as far as i know before i grad, they are planning to restructure some of the groupings as there are some instructors resigning. So ya, it could be hard to get a fixed instructor at the moment. Slow learners take up to 30 to 40 lessons before TP. Fast ones takes 20-25. And you have to think carefully, if you are slow learner and change to private, means lesser circuit lesson, results in easy failure in circuit during TP. Means more money and time wasted to wait for TP again.

Yes...private a bit hard to pass circuit, main road no problem....


but sch also no 100% will pass.....not forget that school is much more exp
 

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u can book TP straight when u engage a PDI but u have to think carefully first
school instructors are trained on how to teach step by step
u will learn the correct way in detail when u are at school
private might be harder to learn/pass for ur case as not all PDI teach well enough
yes u can book TP earlier but if u keep failing, end up u spend even more money

usually i see people from private then go school
i think u are the first one from school to private :s13:

I from school go private...:(
 

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Yep I took the fixed instructor scheme. I never got the one I wanted. Yes, they refunded my money that they charged to fix the instructor, but I still have to pay for the fixed group. I am aware of the problem with regards to having lesson circuit lesson. Well. It is pointless also to learn circuit in school as well when the instructors do not teach me well.

Which group you are in? Maybe you should change to G6007. Get instructor 2346, 2343 or 2140, they don't take that much leave anyways, and they are quite patient :)
 

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Which group you are in? Maybe you should change to G6007. Get instructor 2346, 2343 or 2140, they don't take that much leave anyways, and they are quite patient :)

G6007 is a Gold group. So if I fixed the group and fixed the instructor in addition to the gold group surcharge, that is an extra total of $11 per lesson!!! That's too expensive for me since I am only a NSF.

Anyway, thanks so much for your recommendation!
 
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I was in G6004. G6007 is a Gold group. So if I fixed the group and fixed the instructor in addition to the gold group surcharge, that is an extra total of $11 per lesson!!! That's too expensive for me since I am only a NSF.

Anyway, thanks so much for your recommendation!
I only paid extra $8.56/lesson with fixed instructor wo. $3.21 for fixed group, $5.35 for fixed instructor.
 

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I only paid extra $8.56/lesson with fixed instructor wo. $3.21 for fixed group, $5.35 for fixed instructor.

Yep but since G6007 is a Gold group, one has to pay extra $3.21 more per lesson. You are lucky lo, that time they are not a Gold Group
 

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Yep but since G6007 is a Gold group, one has to pay extra $3.21 more per lesson. You are lucky lo, that time they are not a Gold Group

When I join it's already gold group le lo... I only grad last month leh.. That was the amount charged to me.
 

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hey guys,
just wanna check. I've enrolled in BBDC since the month of July. And passed my FTT & BTT and have my PDL already. But the problem is I've spent on $700 on 1x lessons in school but only covered till stage 2.3 and I feel that I'm a slow learner. Even my friend agrees on. I actually want to quit on Monday and change to a private instructor because its cheaper and they do not follow lesson by lesson (eg. today learn what, if not cannot pass) Any good Instructors to recommend? I'm taking a manual liecense. Ps, Can I book for TP straight if I apply for private Instructor? In BBDC you need to be in stage 5 to book for. & I have learnt abit of driving, so when I change do I still need to learn from the start?
Thanks:)

u can book TP straight when u engage a PDI but u have to think carefully first
school instructors are trained on how to teach step by step
u will learn the correct way in detail when u are at school
private might be harder to learn/pass for ur case as not all PDI teach well enough
yes u can book TP earlier but if u keep failing, end up u spend even more money

usually i see people from private then go school
i think u are the first one from school to private :s13:

i feel u already gotten the necessary road experience while in stage 2 already, are you confident in lane change, right turn and U turn?

if so, i recommend u bite the bullet and continue ur learning in BBDC, stage 3 is all circuit related (parking/directional change/slope/ebrake/S course/crank course).

Depending on ur slow speed control and fast hand movement in steering the wheel, this is the stage which is worth learning in school compared to PDI. u get ample of practise time for circuit courses in this stage and during revision prior to TP.

booking of TP at stage 5 is kinda nonsense actually, but school wanna maintain a decent passing rate, that is why they implement such condition. anyway, it is cheaper to book TP via school. 180bucks inclusive of 50mins warm up.

PDI is about 270bucks i read, just purely for 30mins TP? anyone can correct me?
 

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Yes...private a bit hard to pass circuit, main road no problem....


but sch also no 100% will pass.....not forget that school is much more exp

as a learner, during TP, its either u heng or u sway, so many stories of sabotage by fellow road users or pedestrians, it really boils down to how u react to situation, so abit of common sense when controlling the vehicle still apply, not forgetting those safety checks and basic traffic rules

i also gotto admit school system although systematic BUT sometimes because $ involved in learning, u certainly will feel it is too rigid.

u confident, instructor no issue with u on the handling and control, road condition gives u opportunity to learn overtaking, avoid obstacles, zebra crossing/traffic junction road awareness, many right turns completed but yet they only clear u 2-3 sub stages!!!

if u learn in 1-3pm, and ur sub stages requirement is lane change heavy traffic, i wonder how it can be done if no heavy traffic?

for me, the most annoying part is the circuit rather than the main road driving, i have a taste of all circuits course on my 1st stage 3 lesson, i drove with ease but yet, i need another 4 more lesson to complete everything!!

imagine spending 90mins doing the S and crank course??
imagine spending 90mins doing slope and directional change??
imagine spending 90mins doing vertical and parallel parking??

but it did serve some purpose as i get more confident and different instructors giving different tips on sighting points for circuit course.
 

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Just change to private...save some $$$


sch does not 100% guarantee you will pass 1....

but $$ wasted is definitely higher
 

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gotten ur license yet? =:p

Gotten liao, 1 time pass. But the darn photo card license not here yet. Donno what they are doing. Can't drive overseas without that darn card.

as a learner, during TP, its either u heng or u sway, so many stories of sabotage by fellow road users or pedestrians, it really boils down to how u react to situation, so abit of common sense when controlling the vehicle still apply, not forgetting those safety checks and basic traffic rules

i also gotto admit school system although systematic BUT sometimes because $ involved in learning, u certainly will feel it is too rigid.

u confident, instructor no issue with u on the handling and control, road condition gives u opportunity to learn overtaking, avoid obstacles, zebra crossing/traffic junction road awareness, many right turns completed but yet they only clear u 2-3 sub stages!!!

if u learn in 1-3pm, and ur sub stages requirement is lane change heavy traffic, i wonder how it can be done if no heavy traffic?

for me, the most annoying part is the circuit rather than the main road driving, i have a taste of all circuits course on my 1st stage 3 lesson, i drove with ease but yet, i need another 4 more lesson to complete everything!!

imagine spending 90mins doing the S and crank course??
imagine spending 90mins doing slope and directional change??
imagine spending 90mins doing vertical and parallel parking??

but it did serve some purpose as i get more confident and different instructors giving different tips on sighting points for circuit course.


Hehe, I clear 3 subjects in one lesson, got once clear 4. So in total I spent 20 lessons. MY instructor was good, drove all the way into bukit panjang and hill view. when I complete my circuit lesson, so i could gain more on the road experience. :D My lessons also all different timing one. 1p.m, 3p.m, 5p.m and even 9p.m. All for the experience.
 

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have a good private manual instructor (bbdc) to intro, mr goh @ 96712193.

learning well under him though im a realli slow learner..
 

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Hi! Can anyone teach me how to tell the current private instructor that you want to stop lessons with him??

I have this PDI teaching for BBDC area and he's always very impatient and naggy. Kept on scolding me until I'm super demoralised.

Is it normal for instructors to be reading newspapers or chitchating with other driving uncles and let u drive on your own? I'm stuck with him for 2 months now. Learnt all the stuff already but still not good at them. Feel like changing instructor as I really can't stand him anymore!

Please teach me how to FIRE him......! :s27:
my current instructor also quite naggy de, esp when u do something wrong for too many times. manual pvte @ bbdc

but hes systematic & gd in teaching.
 

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Gotten liao, 1 time pass. But the darn photo card license not here yet. Donno what they are doing. Can't drive overseas without that darn card.

hey bro, can ask u when u passed your TP? i passed mine on 19 nov yet i haven receive the photo card license yet :(
 
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