reliable surge protector

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hi , anyone got recommendation for multi-socket power plug(5+ socket) with surge protection? will be powering 3 x u2713hm, 1x dell u2711h,my computer(around 600-700w peak), klipsch promedia 2.1(200w peak).

Is this one the best around?
Belkin : Gold Series 7-Socket Surge Protector

Which shop can i buy it from in sim lim square?
 

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The 8 sockets Belkin will be cheaper than the 7 sockets.
 

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The 8 sockets Belkin will be cheaper than the 7 sockets.

thx for the heads up!. btw normal one from careerfour or ntuc got
any difference or not? i see alot of shop like best denki, challenger etc all like use brandless one..
 

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hi , anyone got recommendation for multi-socket power plug(5+ socket) with surge protection?
Did you really think the 2 cm part inside that power strip would stop what three kilometers of sky could not? That is what it claims. Do you really think hundreds of joules inside that power strip will absorb surges that are hundreds of thousands of joules? That is what it claims. Read its spec numbers.

Transients that are near zero joules are already made irrelevant by what is already inside every appliance. Your concern is the rare surge (maybe once every seven years) that might overwhelm protection inside appliances. The only solution to that typically destructive surge is a properly earthed 'whole house' protector.

If you need protection for a Dell, then you need protection for everything including dimmer switches, dishwasher, air conditioner, RCDs, clocks, refrigerator, and smoke detectors. IOW one properly earthed 'whole house' protector means protection for everything.

So how often do you replace dishwashers and smoke detectors? Destructive surges are that rare. But are destructive. Either that magic box adjacent to your Dell will somehow stop or absorb that surge - often destroying the adjacent protector. Or you can do the only solution used in every facility that cannot have damage. One 'whole house' protector properly earthed (a 'less than 3 meter' connection) means nobody even knew a surge existed. Even the protector remains functional. But only if that destructive surge is earthed BEFORE it can enter a building.

The rule is quite simple. Either that energy is harmlessly absorbed BEFORE it enters a building. Or that energy finds destructive paths to earth via household appliances. Only a homeowner makes that decision.
 

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despite many years of threads about Belkin surge protectors in HWZ, I have never seen anyone from Singapore using Singapore electricity supply saying that their Belkin has protected their equipment from a surge. do a search of HWZ threads and see for yourself.

If you are living in an older house/flat, far better to replace your power distribution board with the a new high quality board and circuit breakers.
 

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If you are living in an older house/flat, far better to replace your power distribution board with the a new high quality board and circuit breakers.
So a millimeters gap in a circuit breaker will stop what the 2 cm part inside a Belkin cannot?

Best protection (for 1930 or 2010 buildings) is earthing a 'whole house' protector. So that a destructive current is farther from all appliances. And within a few meters (or less) of earth. If not, then best protection is what already comes standard inside each Dell.

Irrelevant are what power board and interior wires. To surges, they all remain a direct connection to earth destructively via appliances. Protection was always to earth it BEFORE that current can enter a building.
 
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I using both APC then extend out to Belkin LOL.. not sure if the purpose is defeated in this kind of setup.
 

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actually a good quality multi sockets power extension cost almost the same as surge protector.... for pc i use APC UPS instead which connected to APC surge protector :s22: (cos for me it is functioning as multi socket extension)
 

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i never use belkin. im not even sure whats the brand. taiho or something? bought from challenger and ntuc. i also had no problems even when there is a power trip.
 

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i never use belkin.
I also do not use Belkin or APC or any other. Invisible protectors without any problems. That proves invisible protectors are superior to power boards that cost plenty more.

Or maybe because superior protection is already inside every appliance. That might be a factor? Surges that might overwhelm that protection occur maybe once every seven years. So my invisible protectors must be the best - according logic being posted.

A power trip is a near zero volts. An anomaly completely ignored by all protectors. A surge is many thousands of volts. Why would anyone confuse a near zero event with a thousand volt event? Again, according to logic being posted.

limster has posted what power board manufacturers claim to accomplish. Use invisible protectors to obtain same protection.
 

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The 8 sockets Belkin will be cheaper than the 7 sockets.

I bought that one because needed the 8-sockets plus one of the swivel is useful. $65 from SLS. Actually now 8 also not enough, I need 10 sockets :s22:
 

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I also do not use Belkin or APC or any other. Invisible protectors without any problems. That proves invisible protectors are superior to power boards that cost plenty more.

Or maybe because superior protection is already inside every appliance. That might be a factor? Surges that might overwhelm that protection occur maybe once every seven years. So my invisible protectors must be the best - according logic being posted.

A power trip is a near zero volts. An anomaly completely ignored by all protectors. A surge is many thousands of volts. Why would anyone confuse a near zero event with a thousand volt event? Again, according to logic being posted.

limster has posted what power board manufacturers claim to accomplish. Use invisible protectors to obtain same protection.

Define invisible protector.

All your posts here seem to point to the fact that, your post contents doesn't seem targeted at Singapore households, particularly HDB Flats or Condos alike. Are you not local and your speaking terms seem foreign.
 

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If your house is suffering from power trips frequently, find out how long has it been since you have stayed in this house. If your neighbour's house is fine and yours house always power trip due to lightning strikes in bad weather, it could be due to the Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker being more sensitive, probably from wear and tear. Replace it with a new one of another brand should do the trick. Get an electrician to do it, its not that expensive, should be less than 40 bucks.

Lightning need not conduct thru a lightning conductor, it can go ground up also.

If you do not know what to do, Give your town council a call, and they can recommend a licenced electrician to do it for you and also check your box for any fault.

Then you can use any normal extention code cable without much worries. But it is still good to have some form of protection using an extention cable with protection, with surge protector strips, to prevent other equipment malfunction to affect other equipments. Also is good to have one decent surge protector that filters out some form of line noise and stuff for PC or audio.
 
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But it is still good to have some form of protection using an extention cable with protection, with surge protector strips, to prevent other equipment malfunction to affect other equipments.
If required, then dimmer switches and clocks are failing due to daily noise generated by other appliances. Each does not fail because invisible surge protectors are used? Of course not. All appliances already contain superior protection that makes that noise or mythical anomalies irrelevant. My invisible protectors must be working? If power trips and other appliances cause damage, then I must have invisible protectors on everything.

Same protection exists whether I use a protector strip or not. Either my protectors are invisible, or better protection at electronics is already inside electronics. The latter is true.

They have you boxing with invisible fears. Spending on protectors that claim near zero protection and near zero filtering. Did you read its spec numbers? When no damage happens, was it a protector or better protection inside each appliance?

Read its spec numbers. Post then number that claims protection from anomalies that actually do damage. Your concern is a rare transient, maybe once every seven years, that can destructively blow through undersized power strips. And is sometimes is so powerful as to also blow through electronics.

Too many believe hearsay and ignore spec numbers. For example, where is a power strip that stops hundreds of thousands of joules (the destructive anomaly)? Does 'no damage' mean a power strip is protecting? No. No damage means better protection inside each appliance is working. Protection inside every appliance - including a door bell, air conditioner, refrigerator, and smoke detector - means stress created many times every day by other appliances is only noise. Or do those unharmed items also have invisible strip protectors?

Finally, if a Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker is worn out, then someone was physically resetting it many times a day. If it was not tripping daily, then no wear and no reason to replace it. And if anything needs a protector, then so do electronics inside a leak detecting breaker. What protects it? Protectoin superior to a power strip is even inside that breaker.

The concern is a rare transient, maybe once even seven years, that is completely ignored by power strip protectors. That is solved by something less expensive and that actually claims to protect from a potentially destructive and other anomalies.
 
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