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[Squaredot]

A small bowl of white rice equals to 10 teaspoons of white sugar.

Some days u cheat by adding some sugar, just remember to eat less white rice to cover.

ok I will try to remember.
I started eating brown rice some years back. I hope it helps if diabetes hit me in future.

 

[rawtuna]

ok I will try to remember.
I started eating brown rice some years back. I hope it helps if diabetes hit me in future.

Brown rice has a lower glycemic index (GI) than white rice, which means that it is digested slower, having lesser effect on blood sugar.

Brown rice is good for diabetic but if your diabetic condition is out of control and has started to damage your kidney, meaning you are progressing through different stages of End Stage Kidney Disease, then you cannot take brown rice.

 

[rawtuna]

You do know that they give priority to the urgent cases? Not a good thing to be happy about.

Nothing you can do now also. Have sufficient rest. A positive mindset is important too.

Priority for urgent case is for surgeon team booking of OT. His endoscopy is a urgent case, or else he won't be warded and fasting. All other endoscopy will treat as outpatient.

 

[16/8IF]

Your goal is to lower your hba1c to 6.5 by adding exercise program every day/night.

To much vegs equal too much carb. You need meat based primary protein for your muscle to work and recover.

Tofu and beans/nuts are plant based secondary protein, means you need to overeat to get same result as meat based primary protein.

100 grams of tofu gives 8 grams of protein; 100 grams of chicken breast gives 31 grams of protein, beef gives 26 grams of protein.

Overeat means you are eating too much carb, no wonder your hba1c is in the diabetic range.

You want a better hba1c, you need to BALANCE your dietary intake and involve some form of EXERCISE.

Great to see that you are giving better advice that most MPs in SG.

I was "blinded" as well for 19 over years following whatever my MPs told me.

Even than my Hba1c was very much lower than 6%.

In 2019, I learned from other diabetic who are in "Diabetes Remission" and also plenty of YouTube videos by highly Medically qualified Western Professionals many of whom are Professor in University etc to be also in
"Remission". ( you can find a few Sporean who are in remission in another diabetes thread, one of them even have a hba1 of 4.8% w/o medication !).

These days I hear a lot of diabetic told me that their doctors are very happy as long as their hba1c is 7%, don't know is that really the "doctors words" or the patients themselves ?

I have read some Specialist clinics website, apparently why this 7% came about, if I remembered correctly is
only when at 7% and above, are expected to go for an OGTT to test for diabetes, the rest below classified as
Pre diabetes . ( i stand corrected, as read that sometime ago).

During my time, anything 5.6 and below considered normal, 5.7-6.4 prediabetes and 6.5 above diabetes( like you stated above to target it below 6.5).

Not many diabetic are aware that they can actually have NORMAL Hba1c , ie 5.6% and below even without medications, so with so many medication why are they unable to bring it lower ?

Maybe most diabetic are too busy to research more on the subject and just follow what their MPs told them and follow exactly ?

 

[rawtuna]

Great to see that you are giving better advice that most MPs in SG.

I was "blinded" as well for 19 over years following whatever my MPs told me.

Even than my Hba1c was very much lower than 6%.

In 2019, I learned from other diabetic who are in "Diabetes Remission" and also plenty of YouTube videos by highly Medically qualified Western Professionals many of whom are Professor in University etc to be also in
"Remission". ( you can find a few Sporean who are in remission in another diabetes thread, one of them even have a hba1 of 4.8% w/o medication !).

These days I hear a lot of diabetic told me that their doctors are very happy as long as their hba1c is 7%, don't know is that really the "doctors words" or the patients themselves ?

I have read some Specialist clinics website, apparently why this 7% came about, if I remembered correctly is
only when at 7% and above, are expected to go for an OGTT to test for diabetes, the rest below classified as
Pre diabetes . ( i stand corrected, as read that sometime ago).

During my time, anything 5.6 and below considered normal, 5.7-6.4 prediabetes and 6.5 above diabetes( like you stated above to target it below 6.5).

Not many diabetic are aware that they can actually have NORMAL Hba1c , ie 5.6% and below even without medications, so with so many medication why are they unable to bring it lower ?

Maybe most diabetic are too busy to research more on the subject and just follow what their MPs told them and follow exactly ?

7% so they tied to you forever, every month come back buy meds and give a bit more advice if you go over 7%. If you become 10 and above then you will be transfer over to renal to manage. 1 less quota for them. You understand what is KPI among those Endocrine specialists?

From 7.8 to 6.5 is a big gap, if patient did everything right and still stay at 7.8, then from his eating habit looks healthy to him, is actually unhealthy to me. I want to know where is the exercise?

To exercise needs muscle to work to burn excess glucose, then the muscle requires protein to recover and grow. Pretty sure no one want their muscle to be weak and shrink in mass.

You get 31 grams of protein out of 100 grams of chicken breast, if you eat tofu, you need to eat 400 grams. And 400 grams of tofu is a lot of carbs which is a lot of sugar after convert in stomach.

 

[16/8IF]

7% so they tied to you forever, every month come back buy meds and give a bit more advice if you go over 7%. If you become 10 and above then you will be transfer over to renal to manage. 1 less quota for them. You understand what is KPI among those Endocrine specialists?

From 7.8 to 6.5 is a big gap, if patient did everything right and still stay at 7.8, then from his eating habit looks healthy to him, is actually unhealthy to me. I want to know where is the exercise?

To exercise needs muscle to work to burn excess glucose, then the muscle requires protein to recover and grow. Pretty sure no one want their muscle to be weak and shrink in mass.

You get 31 grams of protein out of 100 grams of chicken breast, if you eat tofu, you need to eat 400 grams. And 400 grams of tofu is a lot of carbs which is a lot of sugar after convert in stomach.

It appears you are right, because I see two clinical trials in Singapore, that are basically replicating the westerns studies, Very Low Calories Diet (VLCD-- followed Prof Roy Taylor's) done by Khoo Teck Puat Hospital & Healthy Ketogenic Diet done by National University Hospital are both classified under Obesity trials rather than under Diabetes & Obesity trials in the world database for clinical studies. ( maybe lack of support from the endos in SG ?).

Anyway those Diabetics who puts health as their no1 priority, needs only to research more on the subject which are free on social media and Youtube and you can basically go into "Diabetes Remission" if you fully understand the pros and cons where are the risk, especially those on medications still( may need to change dosage of change medication before they embarked on a dietary Lifestyle intervention).

Everything is all about Risk/Reward.

 

[1982-1994]

Blood sugar 10.7 (from 8.5) because of the glucose drip or something ,the nurse said it is slightly high ,normal should be 8+

Edited;
Normal saline

10 now ....
Why like this

 

[1982-1994]

Did they say why blood sugar increased even though normal saline is provided?

Is it possible it's the predawn phenomenon?

I don't know since she spoke softly as everyone was asleep

 

[1982-1994]

Can you tell us since you don't eat rice and sweet food, why your 2 sets of 12 hrs finger prick is as high as 9.5-9.6?

Must be either you overeat, or your pancrea unable to produce enough insulin to bring down your blood sugar.

Like that your 3-months hba1c sure above 6.5

Ate 3x with mostly veggies
Maybe pancreas is spoiling

 

[yuri2]

10 now ....
Why like this

I think it's take time. That's why HbA1C is measured over 3 months.
If you're doing the proper diet and exercise continuously, with dr prescribed medicine, should be ok, imho.

 

[Lchlch]

For those with chronic illness, nvr skip your medication.
Very important.

 

[rawtuna]

Ate 3x with mostly veggies
Maybe pancreas is spoiling

Your first set of 9.5 is before dinner? If yes, then the high were from earlier meal that never burn off, your dinner will push the reading to 11.5, when you sleep your body uses lesser energy, atmost drop 2 mmol, hense your second set is still 9.6...

If you walk 5km before you sleep and skip your dinner (maybe eat a 西洋菜汤排骨 without rice). Most likely can bring down to 7+ mmol for your second set.

 

[rawtuna]

I think it's take time. That's why HbA1C is measured over 3 months.
If you're doing the proper diet and exercise continuously, with dr prescribed medicine, should be ok, imho.

With proper medication, lifestyle changes and exercise, is still not too late for him.

At current point, he may needs insulin injection to lower his high blood sugar.

 

[Airplane88]

these are my experience, i don't jiak fruits so i can't help u filter.

foods to avoid
-white rice
-porridge
-beverage with sugar e.g 3 in 1 coffee, soft drink, soya drink
-soup
-dessert
-snacks e.g potato chips
-cookies
-cake
-ice cream
-certain fruits
-potatoes
-sauces e.g YTF sauces, Malay nasi lemak sambal chilli... they add a lot of sugar.
-canned sardine
-coleslaw
-tomato
-durians

these are killer, it cause surge in blood sugar.

Most T2 diabetes are caused by lifestyle, diet and aging.
Those u like to eat now, is what causing high blood sugar.

btw, walking 30~60 mins after meal, helps to lower blood sugar.

Yea, second to that ‘walking 30-60 mins after meals to lower blood sugar’. I used to do it after dinner.

 

[1982-1994]

Haemoglobin dropped 1.5 point from 9.3 within few days

 

[1982-1994]

Your first set of 9.5 is before dinner? If yes, then the high were from earlier meal that never burn off, your dinner will push the reading to 11.5, when you sleep your body uses lesser energy, atmost drop 2 mmol, hense your second set is still 9.6...

Before dinner 10.5, then took dinner 1.5h after that, the 9.5 reading was after waking up in the late morning

If you walk 5km before you sleep and skip your dinner (maybe eat a 西洋菜汤排骨 without rice). Most likely can bring down to 7+ mmol for your second set.

Even if I do that, 7+? Got so power?

 

[wongminmin]

Ate 3x with mostly veggies
Maybe pancreas is spoiling

eating more veggies doesn't mean help to reduce blood sugar.

i dunnoe the complicated terms.... this is my understanding
As we aged, our pancreas produce lesser insulin.
This is why when we young, we can eat everything. Now old, eat a little.... blood sugar high.

So how do we control blood sugar while get enough energy for our daily activities?
-Reduce intake
-Exercise

then i give e.g
-i jiak 1 big pau, my blood glucose is 7.3
-i jiak BCM, my blood glucose is 7.8
-i jiak 1 cucumber, my blood glucose is 5.8
then x 3 meals.... so the diff will be visible.... it still voice down ur intake....

 

[wongminmin]

Before dinner 10.5, then took dinner 1.5h after that, the 9.5 reading was after waking up in the late morning

Even if I do that, 7+? Got so power?

very hard to determine....
Now we need find whether u are able to control ur blood sugar via intake.
if cannot, means ur pancreas gg liao. GG nvm, but still must keep blood glucose below 10....

Compare before meal reading, and 2 hrs after meal reading.
Compare Daily fasting reading vs daily fasting reading.

btw, don't add gravy to rice. curry gravy also got sugar. lol

 

[rawtuna]

these are my experience, i don't jiak fruits so i can't help u filter.

foods to avoid
-white rice
-porridge
-beverage with sugar e.g 3 in 1 coffee, soft drink, soya drink
-soup
-dessert
-snacks e.g potato chips
-cookies
-cake
-ice cream
-certain fruits
-potatoes
-sauces e.g YTF sauces, Malay nasi lemak sambal chilli... they add a lot of sugar.
-canned sardine
-coleslaw
-tomato
-durians

these are killer, it cause surge in blood sugar.

Most T2 diabetes are caused by lifestyle, diet and aging.
Those u like to eat now, is what causing high blood sugar.

btw, walking 30~60 mins after meal, helps to lower blood sugar.

Using the food list provided by wongminmin...

Foods to Avoid
-white rice
-porridge
-beverage with sugar, soft drink, soya drink
-dessert
-potato chips
-cookies
-cake
-pastries
-ice creams
-potatoes, yams, sweet potato
-sweet sauces
-coleslaw
-durians

Foods can eat in MODERATE amount...

-breads, limit to 2 slices per meal, pile up with lot of lettuse, thick slices of tomato, raw onion rings and meat filling of your choice.

-fruits, limit to 1 serving per meal, not buy 1kg of rambutan and finish all in one go.

-nasi lemak sambal chilli... Yes a lot of sugar added but the coconut rice is equals to 20 teaspoons of white sugar, best to cut both but if really must eat, I rather you cut the coconut rice instead of no sambal chilli.

-canned sardine is ok so long no sauce

 

[1982-1994]

very hard to determine....

Compare before meal reading, and 2 hrs after meal reading.
Compare Daily fasting reading vs daily fasting reading.

Think I may go buy the GCM to try

btw, don't add gravy to rice. curry gravy also got sugar. lol

Rare liao,for months
Used to do it last time