rtx 3080 vs 6900xt

[Clearnfc]

Anyway, AMD has launched their FideltyFX Super Resolution today....

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/and-fidelityfx-super-resolution-details
According to this remarks below, this would be pretty useless features for 6900XT. Although these remarks are directed at DLSS, since FSR does the same thing, one could assume it applies to cards like 6800Xt/6900XT.

By itself (DLSS), it does not make any meaningful improvement to user experience because most games run with very high FPS if you are using a RTX 3080 and at a resolution below 4K without RT. Even if you were to add another 50% FPS to that non DLSS FPS number, it generally won't make a meaningful difference.

My comment on DLSS is with the assumption that RT is disabled and with most people not gaming at 4K resolution. I've highlighted this earlier. Surveys from Steam have shown that most gamers are still on 1080p and increasingly on 1440p. At both resolutions, all the high end GPUs can easily handle the game above 100, with some e-sports title hitting 400+ FPS assuming no CPU bottleneck. Now if you were to enable DLSS for these sorts of scenario, it will boost FPS for sure. But my question is for what?

 

[Goodshot]

You kind of contradict yourself here. 30W less is less. Its not some measurement error that its consuming less power. And that's with the architecture allowing clockspeed easily at 2.3 Ghz at this level of power consumption. An average RTX 3080 with a power limit of betwen 320 to 350W will only see the card clock up to 1.9Ghz or a little higher depending on the silicon lottery. And to add on, the card running 30W less is able to outperform or hang around a card that runs at 350W, i.e. RTX 3090, in some cases. Especially when you consider games running below 4K. Not many people game at 4K, so the 4K comparison is basically pointless. I have a 4K monitor which I've never used for PC gaming.

i also feel 4k gaming is overrated . 27'' / 34'' 1440p 144hz is best so far

 

[congster2]

For the power part, well, if you think 30W is a big difference, I am ok with it, not going to argue with you on that.



OK, maybe you could show me any info that most pple who bought 6800XT/6900XT/3080/3090 (or others that are considered flagship models) game at 1080/1440 (or similar resolutions). My impression is that many people who bought these cards would want to game at 4K. It would be good if you could show me something to change my view.

I'm gaming at 1440p ultrawide.
I got the 3080 so that I can drive games nicely at 144fps and above, maxing out smoothness.
I don't need 4K because I'm not sitting that far from my monitor and 34" is plenty big for me.
Also, I do turn on RT for eye candy, and compensate frames using dlss.
I think the cards today, including 3090 are probably good enough, but not awesome, for 4K gaming.

In considering which card works for you, ultimately you start with viewing distance and size of monitor,before working backwards to decide on the resolution that works, frames you want to play at, and corresponding card that can deliver those frames.

 

[soltrdc]

I bought a 4k monitor to watch Netflix in UHD. Gaming came as a secondary consideration, like "oh I have a 4k monitor so why not?". But it's also true that I switched from a 6800XT to a 3080 because of (slightly) better 4K perfomance in gaming (MS Flightsim).

 

[johnsonheng]

Can I ask why my desktop is unable detect dual screen

 

[Clearnfc]

I'm gaming at 1440p ultrawide.
I got the 3080 so that I can drive games nicely at 144fps and above, maxing out smoothness.
I don't need 4K because I'm not sitting that far from my monitor and 34" is plenty big for me.
Also, I do turn on RT for eye candy, and compensate frames using dlss.
I think the cards today, including 3090 are probably good enough, but not awesome, for 4K gaming.

In considering which card works for you, ultimately you start with viewing distance and size of monitor,before working backwards to decide on the resolution that works, frames you want to play at, and corresponding card that can deliver those frames.

Thank you for your reply, esp. on the RT part. Yes, current cards are not awesome for 4K, with RT, its barely playable. Thats why I have been stressing the important of DLSS. I even call it a game changer. While 4K/144Hz is not realistic today, 1440/144Hz is very possible and becoming common. So, with your 3440 x 1440/144Hz monitor, you can use DLSS and maxed out your game settings with RT. With DLSS, even ~100fps on 4K is entire possible without RT. So, its getting closer to 4K/144Hz, not there yet but closer.

This is why I have been stressing that RT and DLSS are 2 very important features. ITs these 2 features that makes me feel why 3080 is better than 6900XT.

 

[Clearnfc]

I bought a 4k monitor to watch Netflix in UHD. Gaming came as a secondary consideration, like "oh I have a 4k monitor so why not?". But it's also true that I switched from a 6800XT to a 3080 because of (slightly) better 4K perfomance in gaming (MS Flightsim).

Thank you for your reply. I have been trying to say that people who could afford cards like 6900XT/3080 will possibly want to game at 4K. At this market segment, 4k/1440 is considered the norm (mention this in an earlier post).

The high-end is very different from mainstream. While most users in the mainstream games at 1080 (As shown in steam charts by a kind fellow forumer), its not the case for high-end.

 

[soltrdc]

Can I ask why my desktop is unable detect dual screen

Plug in primary display to your graphic card first then secondary. Make sure both monitors are set on the correct input (I'm guessing displayport). Then in Windows go to settings for "multiple displays" and select "detect multiple displays" and select "extend displays". By right this should happen automatically but if it doesn't, then try this.

 

[johnsonheng]

PR

Plug in primary display to your graphic card first then secondary. Make sure both monitors are set on the correct input (I'm guessing displayport). Then in Windows go to settings for "multiple displays" and select "detect multiple displays" and select "extend displays". By right this should happen automatically but if it doesn't, then try this.

So you staying I use all the port on the graphic card and I do not use the port of the mother board

 

[soltrdc]

PR

So you staying I use all the port on the graphic card and I do not use the port of the mother board

does your CPU have integrated graphics? if it does, you can use both. I can get multiple displays when plugging into my graphics card and motherboard output too. But before you do that, go to Device Manager and check that under Display Adapter, you have both your graphics card and the integrated graphics enabled (intel UHD), because most motherboard auto disable it if it detect you have a discrete graphics card. In this case you will need to enable integrated graphics in BIOS first.

However, for ease of use I suggest just plug the monitors to your graphics card. Most graphics cards these days have at least 4 outputs anyway, either 2x HDMI + 2x DP or 1x HDMI + 3x DP.

 

[congster2]

Thank you for your reply, esp. on the RT part. Yes, current cards are not awesome for 4K, with RT, its barely playable. Thats why I have been stressing the important of DLSS. I even call it a game changer. While 4K/144Hz is not realistic today, 1440/144Hz is very possible and becoming common. So, with your 3440 x 1440/144Hz monitor, you can use DLSS and maxed out your game settings with RT. With DLSS, even ~100fps on 4K is entire possible without RT. So, its getting closer to 4K/144Hz, not there yet but closer.

This is why I have been stressing that RT and DLSS are 2 very important features. ITs these 2 features that makes me feel why 3080 is better than 6900XT.

Yes, and DLSS can help extend the lifespan of the cards eg when the cards struggle with native 1440p in the future, I just turn on dlss and continue gaming

 

[johnsonheng]

I think there chances that my monitor spoil

 

[watzup_ken]

I think there chances that my monitor spoil

Did you try and do a clean uninstall and install of driver? I ran into an issue recently where Sapphire Trixx got flagged as a malicious software by the AV application. The software went ahead to remove some files. After restarting my PC, I realized that my system refused to do dual screen even though it was working fine the previous day. Turns out that the driver also got corrupted and unable to detect 2 monitors at the same time. But when I plug 1 at a time, both works fine.

 

[johnsonheng]

Is xiaomi 34 inch monitor a good buy

 

[johnsonheng]

Did you try and do a clean uninstall and install of driver? I ran into an issue recently where Sapphire Trixx got flagged as a malicious software by the AV application. The software went ahead to remove some files. After restarting my PC, I realized that my system refused to do dual screen even though it was working fine the previous day. Turns out that the driver also got corrupted and unable to detect 2 monitors at the same time. But when I plug 1 at a time, both works fine.

I tried to switch cable and port on the monitor, no matter how I try, the monitor just won't work

 

[congster2]

I tried to switch cable and port on the monitor, no matter how I try, the monitor just won't work

Did it light up? Do u have other monitors?

 

[johnsonheng]

Did it light up? Do u have other monitors?

@it light awhile then shut down again

 

[watzup_ken]

@it light awhile then shut down again

Shut down due to "no signal"? Did you try that 1 monitor by itself, i.e. unplug the other?

 

[johnsonheng]

xiaomi 34 inch monitor good a not.

 

[watzup_ken]

xiaomi 34 inch monitor good a not.

I am happily using it for almost a year now. My was the first gen batch which I understand is using Samsung panel. Not too sure about it now. May be good to check for some more up to date reviews because I believe there was a change in supplier for the panel.