Samsung Galaxy S23 series

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I ask chat gpt regarding fast charging daily, it gives . Is it true? Daily fast charge won't last ling more than 2 Yr. After A yr or 2. From 80% to 30% in half hr?
Anyone uses Samsung fast charger daily 45w, and heck care. Or you had certain time?

Lol 25w/45w super fast charge already consider slow by 2023 standard still wanna use 15w fast charge just to maintain battery ?
Nowadays most changing phones fast I don't think will even notice anything wrong
 

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Lol 25w/45w super fast charge already consider slow by 2023 standard still wanna use 15w fast charge just to maintain battery ?
Nowadays most changing phones fast I don't think will even notice anything wrong
IMHO.
No need to worry if every year change phone. 🤣
Sign up Samsung Care+ 2-years also no need to worry. 🤣
 

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IMHO.
No need to worry if every year change phone.
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Sign up Samsung Care+ 2-years also no need to worry.
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They living backwards not forward.. XD


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How long do people use their phones for?

This is a survey from phonearena.
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and also
https://thenextweb.com/news/55-of-mobile-phone-users-plan-to-keep-their-devices-for-3-5-years
Nowadays, I think people expect to use their phones for 3-5 years because phones are no longer slow unlike in the past, when it lags even on basic tasks.

In my opinion, most consumers who change their phones after 1-2 years do so due to poor initial decision-making, particularly those who lack the technical expertise or do not bother to evaluate their decision and jump the gun.

Last year, I decided against upgrading to the S22 Ultra because of its known issues with efficiency and overheating. The SD 8 Gen 1 chip is known to be fundamentally flawed and should have never been released due to its measurements.

For Qualcomm to regain its reputation, they had to forsake Samsung chip manufacturing and engage TSMC for the SD 8+ Gen 1 and also the SD 8 Gen 2. For people familiar enough, the surfaced efficiency improvements were not a surprise. Companies like NVIDIA, AMD, and INTEL have also preferred TSMC for the same reason.

The S23 Ultra uses the SD 8 Gen 2, ultimately resolving the battery life issue and overheating problems, making it an excellent all-rounder. Typically, people continue using their phones as long as it serves them well. As mentioned, performance improvements are not as big of a factor like in the past. Nowadays, features, robustness, and power efficiency are more essential. The S23 Ultra performs well in all those aspects. That's why it's a keeper.

Battery Care
My previous phone served me for 5 years. I replaced the battery by myself after 3.5 years as the estimated measured capacity health had dropped by ~35%, which is not bad for 3.5 years. However, battery deterioration is real, and there is no such thing as a battery that doesn't deteriorate.

Furthermore, lithium-ion batteries are known to be sensitive to high temperatures, which directly correlates to deterioration. This is not my opinion. It's a long-proven scientific fact with plenty of research and studies done to prove it.

What Causes Lithium-ion to Age?

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Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries


Temperature Effects on Lithium-ion:
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Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/discharging_at_high_and_low_temperatures


Apple Guidelines on Maximizing Battery Life and Lifespan:
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Source: https://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/


Next, I suggest using the protect battery feature because the -15% is much less than it seems. At 100% charge, some may be sharp enough to notice that the first 10%+ of the battery depletes much faster. The explanation below is shared by vuplix over 10 years ago, and still applies today.
1680438965820.png

For the full study, please refer to this link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...g-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing.871051/

Anyway, this is not a post to say whether someone should or should not use fast charge. These are long-proven scientific facts in regards to batteries.
 

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Lol 25w/45w super fast charge already consider slow by 2023 standard still wanna use 15w fast charge just to maintain battery ?
Nowadays most changing phones fast I don't think will even notice anything wrong
Bixby routine is my good friend, phone charges till 100% off fast charging, turn on battery protect ... notify me to unplug

 

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How long do people use their phones for?
This is a survey from phonearena.
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and also
tnw-blurple

55% of mobile phone users plan to keep their devices for 3-5 years
A new study shows confirms the worst fears of mobile phone manufacturers like Apple and Samsung. According to responses from 3,640 mobile phone users shows that more than half of them plan to keep their current device for three to five more
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thenextweb.com
Nowadays, I think people expect to use their phones for 3-5 years because phones are no longer slow unlike in the past, when it lags even on basic tasks.
In my opinion, most consumers who change their phones after 1-2 years do so due to poor initial decision-making, particularly those who lack the technical expertise or do not bother to evaluate their decision and jump the gun.
Last year, I decided against upgrading to the S22 Ultra because of its known issues with efficiency and overheating. The SD 8 Gen 1 chip is known to be fundamentally flawed and should have never been released due to its measurements.
For Qualcomm to regain its reputation, they had to forsake Samsung chip manufacturing and engage TSMC for the SD 8+ Gen 1 and also the SD 8 Gen 2. For people familiar enough, the surfaced efficiency improvements were not a surprise. Companies like NVIDIA, AMD, and INTEL have also preferred TSMC for the same reason.
The S23 Ultra uses the SD 8 Gen 2, ultimately resolving the battery life issue and overheating problems, making it an excellent all-rounder. Typically, people continue using their phones as long as it serves them well. As mentioned, performance improvements are not as big of a factor like in the past. Nowadays, features, robustness, and power efficiency are more essential. The S23 Ultra performs well in all those aspects. That's why it's a keeper.
Battery Care
My previous phone served me for 5 years. I replaced the battery by myself after 3.5 years as the estimated measured capacity health had dropped by ~35%, which is not bad for 3.5 years. However, battery deterioration is real, and there is no such thing as a battery that doesn't deteriorate.
Furthermore, lithium-ion batteries are known to be sensitive to high temperatures, which directly correlates to deterioration. This is not my opinion. It's a long-proven scientific fact with plenty of research and studies done to prove it.
What Causes Lithium-ion to Age?

1680442039568-png.39316

Source:
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Temperature Effects on Lithium-ion:
1680442622358-png.39318

Source:
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/discharging_at_high_and_low_temperatures
Apple Guidelines on Maximizing Battery Life and Lifespan:
1680442327043-png.39317

Source:
https://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/
Next, I suggest using the protect battery feature because the -15% is much less than it seems. At 100% charge, some may be sharp enough to notice that the first 10%+ of the battery depletes much faster. The explanation below is shared by vuplix over 10 years ago, and still applies today.
1680438965820-png.39315

For the full study, please refer to this link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...g-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing.871051/
Anyway, this is not a post to say whether someone should or should not use fast charge. These are long-proven scientific facts in regards to batteries.

Info overload XD


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IMHO.
I will try it some time. I slow charge until 85%. You next year is S24U har ?
Maybe I use external charge limiter. 🤔
o.o" to be honest dont have to worry about batt life will last few years .. though i dont use more than 3 years. Bixby routines works wonder :)
 

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o.o" to be honest dont have to worry about batt life will last few years .. though i dont use more than 3 years. Bixby routines works wonder :)
IMHO.
Yeah, i must go explore Bixby. Must find "important" things to do with this phone. 🤣
You got try NFC enable Bixby ?
 
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