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Don't report sick or go see a psychiatrist yet, I don't think you'll ever need to do that because there are better ways to "cure" your depression. Get support from your friends and family or anyone you can confide in, if you continue to keep things to yourself then you're just making the situation worse. PM me if you need to talk.
 

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I just want advice on what can I do now for my situation. No need to put it so harshly on me...

People did, but for every advice people give,you will have 101 excuses. So tell me what you want?
 

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People did, but for every advice people give,you will have 101 excuses. So tell me what you want?

Okay. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. I have no intentions of making excuses. It's just that some of the advice (eg. See saf psychiatrist) I'm already doing that... As for approaching IMH, I have discussed with my parents. They are just concerned that it would be disrespectful to the current doctor, as it's like we are doubting his capabilities as a doctor, not to mention he was a high ranked SAF MO
 

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Did you take the medication they gave you routinely? Does it help your feelings at all?
 

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Okay. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. I have no intentions of making excuses. It's just that some of the advice (eg. See saf psychiatrist) I'm already doing that... As for approaching IMH, I have discussed with my parents. They are just concerned that it would be disrespectful to the current doctor, as it's like we are doubting his capabilities as a doctor, not to mention he was a high ranked SAF MO
You said you don't dare to talk to the SAF psychiatrist. That's as good as not seeing him since not talking doesn't solve anything?

High Rank ≠ Good.

One can have a high rank simply because he's average and have worked long enough.

Also it's nothing to do with rank. It's also nothing to do about being disrespectful. If you seriously can't talk to this person, then find another one whom you can talk that can help you!

Take it that you really feel you are being disrespectful. I would rather be disrespectful to someone who can't help me just so that I go find someone who can.
 

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Did you take the medication they gave you routinely? Does it help your feelings at all?

Yeah i'm taking double dosage of what i used to take a few months back. Doesn't really help...


Okay. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. I have no intentions of making excuses. It's just that some of the advice (eg. See saf psychiatrist) I'm already doing that... As for approaching IMH, I have discussed with my parents. They are just concerned that it would be disrespectful to the current doctor, as it's like we are doubting his capabilities as a doctor, not to mention he was a high ranked SAF MO

You said you don't dare to talk to the SAF psychiatrist. That's as good as not seeing him since not talking doesn't solve anything?

High Rank ≠ Good.

One can have a high rank simply because he's average and have worked long enough.

Also it's nothing to do with rank. It's also nothing to do about being disrespectful. If you seriously can't talk to this person, then find another one whom you can talk that can help you!

Take it that you really feel you are being disrespectful. I would rather be disrespectful to someone who can't help me just so that I go find someone who can.

Alright, i understand where you are coming from. I think the problem with the SAF Psychiatrist is that in my mind, he's also part of the SAF, which i'm really terrified about. That would be why i don't dare to talk to him about my problems...

About finding another person to help me, would you recommend seeing a private specialist or go to public hospitals like IMH/NUH/whatsoever...
 

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I wouldn't say any uniform la. Just anything related to SAF.

Eg. When i see a person downstairs at my coffee shop wearing a green smart 4, i would just get so scared that i would immediately walk away.

But they won't think i'm a chao keng cause i've already been proven to have such an illness by 3 doctors.
Now this is odd. I have heard of people having fear of uniforms. Don't know why but these just sh*t their pants when they see anyone in any uniform. Maybe their parents scared them as kids and told them "police come and catch you".

But first time I'm hearing of someone who only has phobia of SAF. So what exactly about SAF scares you so much? I mean seriously, you are a CLERK. Millions would love to be a clerk and sit in aircon office with ladies.
 

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Now this is odd. I have heard of people having fear of uniforms. Don't know why but these just sh*t their pants when they see anyone in any uniform. Maybe their parents scared them as kids and told them "police come and catch you".

But first time I'm hearing of someone who only has phobia of SAF. So what exactly about SAF scares you so much? I mean seriously, you are a CLERK. Millions would love to be a clerk and sit in aircon office with ladies.

Yes I understand what you mean. I've got pretty much the best vocation anyone can ask for in NS. So people would definitely think like "why is this guy complaining?"

Because I really really do have that anxiety and fear. Like in camp, I don't dare to interact with anyone as all of them seem scary to me. I don't dare to go to the cookhouse out of fear, so I skip my lunch. I tremble and shiver while I'm in the office, so I always go the toilet cubicle and try to calm myself down. Honestly, if it wasn't for my parent, I think I would have wanted to my sufferings, cause it's genuinely that bad.
 

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Alright, i understand where you are coming from. I think the problem with the SAF Psychiatrist is that in my mind, he's also part of the SAF, which i'm really terrified about. That would be why i don't dare to talk to him about my problems...

About finding another person to help me, would you recommend seeing a private specialist or go to public hospitals like IMH/NUH/whatsoever...
It's great that you've realised the only way to solve your problem is to speak someone, anyone.

Sorry, I am not in the best position to advice. Do what you think is right.
 

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You shouldn't think too much about what is going to happen in the future bro cos if u dun treat this now, u're may also have problems in the future when u start work

So the best solution would be to just seek external advice. Don't worry about offending the SAF psychiatrist. If he got issues with ppl running to other doctors, then maybe he should be the one who need counselling lol

Focus on getting well first.

I also recommend some alternative therapies as a complement such as yoga or pilates, or maybe some meditation to try and keep yourself in a peaceful state. Try to also get outdoors, play sports or maybe do some jogging.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it.

The SAF Psychiatrist isn't exactly a part of SAF anymore. My parents adviced me to just treat him like a public hospital doctor, cause well he is one..

I discussed with my parents, and they suggested that I continue with the course of medication and treatment under this SAF assigned doctor first. If there is no improvement in let's say 1 month, maybe we can request for a change of doctor?

Or should I just go see another external psychiatrist right away? Cause the mere thought of going back to that horrible place is making me suffer so much
 

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Hi. I'm diagnosed with depression and anxiety problems, hence temporary down pes to C2L9 for 6 months. I have been transfered to another unit as a clerk


However, ever since i've come to this new place, i feel that my fear and anxiety has increased tremendously, even worse
than how i felt in my previous infantry unit. I asked myself "why am i so afraid of such a good place? I'm just a clerk, 8-5 job, the disclipine standard here is nowhere as bad as the previous place, but why do i still have this fear?"

I'm so scared of the place to the point that i tend to hide myself in the nearby toilet cubicle for more than half of the day. Crying, Vomitting, Trembling and the urge to end this painful life on mine has been on my mind for the past few days, as i have to return to work 7 days from now.

In the office, even when i'm not doing anything, just staying in the office itself gives me the utmost fear and i kept trembling and shaking very badly.I skipped all my lunch meals in camp. Partly because i have no appetite, and also the thought of simply walking to the cookhouse, where it will
be filled with army personels gives me such a horrific feeling, so i hide inside the toilet cubicle during the whole 1 hour lunch time. The 4 walls of the cubicle makes me feel safe from all the scary things outside.The feeling is so horrible that there has been many times ive thought of ending my life, but i don't have the guts to as i thought about my family.
Even now at home, just the thought of returning to that place is makes me cry.I don't dare to talk to my parents about it, as they seem to be extremely stressed about my situation already. I promised them that with the help of my doctor, i will try to recover. But asking myself honestly, with
the current condition, i have absolutely no confidence at all that i will recover within a short time.

I cant sleep at night for the past few days, relying on my sleeping pills to get the little bit of rest i can get. And even now, i don't have the feeling to do anything. I just sit in a corner in my room, shiving and fearing the thought of going back. It's like a countdown to my death sentence.

I know some of you might be thinking "why is this guy complaining of such a relaxing job. Other ppl chiong sua until wan die alr." But i really am suffering inside, to the point that i'm actually crying while typing this out.

Can someone advise me on what to do? I don't want to make my parents worry anymore. And i don't dare to talk to the psychiatrist that SAF has appointed for me. He seems to think that my case isnt thatserious, even after telling him all my problems.

I would extremely appreciate it if someone can advice me or help me on this. This really isn't keng one. I can swear. Really need some advice.

i think they are thinking u chao keng

its best u upgrade then go thru bmt recourse
 

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i think they are thinking u chao keng

its best u upgrade then go thru bmt recourse

I finished BMT already...

Can't be they think I chao keng ba... I mean, 2 SAF MOs and 1 private specialist all agree I got this problem.

That aside, so I continue to have these symptoms yesterday and today (shivering, cnt sleep, voice in my head, negative, terrified of army stuff). Then my mum was quite pissed of cause she kept asking me to don't think about it and try to overcome it, but I just kept thinking about it, I also cannot control it. Then she just like kinda spoke in an irritated matter and said she dunno how to help me anymore. I got really disappointed. Now it's like I don't even feel like staying at home anymore, since my parents reactions is like that.

I have no idea what to do now.
 

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If you are so terrified of anything SAF related as you claim, how did you finish your BMT? You claim you can't even do clerical work in an office but you can go through BMT? Something doesn't tally here.

Presumably no one disturbs you in the office. Surely no tekan session. Yet you are so scared that you lock yourself in the loo and puke or so you claim. During BMT recruits get tekaned left and right by everyone and anyone. Why didn't you puke back then?

You claim during lunch you are so terrified that you lock yourself in the loo and puke. Surely you weren't puking your way through lunch during BMT too. So how did you survive having lunch with hundreds of men in green during BMT?

If you can tahan the tekan sessions in BMT and can complete BMT, many people will find it hard to believe that you have so much trouble being a clerk now.

I don't blame your mother for that kind of reaction. Its the same reaction some people have here. You tell people you have a problem. People give you suggestions and instead of trying or even considering to try, you give 101 excuses.

What do you expect people here to say to you? What do you expect your mother to say to you?

Ask you to go to IMH you are scared it affects your future. Ask you to go to another doctor you are scared of offending the current doctor. Ask you to try to ignore you say can not ignore.

Are you here to ask for advice or are you here hoping people will tell you what you want to hear? So what do you want to hear? You want us to teach you how to get downgraded to PES F? You want us to teach you how to get exempted from NS? You want us to petition MINDEF to scrap NS? What?
 
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I finished BMT already...

Can't be they think I chao keng ba... I mean, 2 SAF MOs and 1 private specialist all agree I got this problem.

That aside, so I continue to have these symptoms yesterday and today (shivering, cnt sleep, voice in my head, negative, terrified of army stuff). Then my mum was quite pissed of cause she kept asking me to don't think about it and try to overcome it, but I just kept thinking about it, I also cannot control it. Then she just like kinda spoke in an irritated matter and said she dunno how to help me anymore. I got really disappointed. Now it's like I don't even feel like staying at home anymore, since my parents reactions is like that.

I have no idea what to do now.

usually medications treating psychiatric conditions need several weeks to months to see a positive effect. unfortunately, negative side effects (EPSE) often show up much quicker than positive ones. Give it some time to work.

psychiatric conditions don't respond to medications like how biological diseases do. I always believe in adjuvant counselling therapy in most cases..

to the bottom line, if you don't help yourself, no one can..
 

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so TS basically you wanted to be discharged from national service and at the same time leave no medical record so as not to affect your future?

lol ... seek professional help or toughen up.
 

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so TS basically you wanted to be discharged from national service and at the same time leave no medical record so as not to affect your future?

lol ... seek professional help or toughen up.

If it is possible...i really wish i can be discharged. It's really mentally torturous. This "voice" in my head, and my constant fear and anxiety.


What if TS doesn't believe in religion?

i'm a free thinker.
 
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