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[Ashguy]

One FTP has two ports.

As for the Singtel AC Plus, you should really change to Singtel Mesh Router, which is a drop-in replacement. It will make your system more stable. Maybe your issue will already be sorted out with just that change, without the need to go to M1.

Ah I see, just checked the port and found out as well. Yup Im currently on the mesh router but I still wasnt getting the best connection out of it so I started using the deco x20 set up. With regards to the change, mainly considering M1 as we might be moving to another place within the next 2 years and from your first post it seems like Singtel will provide an ONR once moved and I was afraid that it would cause problems in the future. Or do you think the better plan would just be to recontract with singtel 24month 1gb plan again and just buy a better router like the GT-AX6000 separately?

 

[xiaofan]

Ah I see, just checked the port and found out as well. Yup Im currently on the mesh router but I still wasnt getting the best connection out of it so I started using the deco x20 set up. With regards to the change, mainly considering M1 as we might be moving to another place within the next 2 years and from your first post it seems like Singtel will provide an ONR once moved and I was afraid that it would cause problems in the future. Or do you think the better plan would just be to recontract with singtel 24month 1gb plan again and just buy a better router like the GT-AX6000 separately?

I see. In that case, better move to M1.

 

[Ashguy]

I see. In that case, better move to M1.

Hmm okay thank you!

 

[aLpHa-Ev7]

Looking to move to another ISP after 12 years with Singtel.

1. How's the latency and speed for M1? Seem like that is quite recommended here.
2. Between TPLink AX72 and Asus 3000P, which is a better router if running standalone (for parents place) ? Or in terms of resale value? Already have a pair of XD6.
3. Alternatively, feedback on VQ? Heard that there are a lot of unplanned maintenance late night - is that true?

Appreciate feedback on both these 3 points.

 

[greythorne]

Can ask how is VQ? Now with M1 500mbps paying $30.18 also contract ended. Looking for something cheaper as looking to lower cost of broadband. Btw SIMBA still havent released their 2.5Gps BB?

 

[xiaofan]

Looking to move to another ISP after 12 years with Singtel.

1. How's the latency and speed for M1? Seem like that is quite recommended here.
2. Between TPLink AX72 and Asus 3000P, which is a better router if running standalone (for parents place) ? Or in terms of resale value? Already have a pair of XD6.
3. Alternatively, feedback on VQ? Heard that there are a lot of unplanned maintenance late night - is that true?

Appreciate feedback on both these 3 points.

Just wondering why you want to change?

I assue you are using ONT, if you read the first post, it is okay to stay with Singtel for ONT users. If you are not happy with Singtel issued router, just get your own router. For example, Asus TUF-AX4200 (at around S$249) can be a good choice. If you have low budget, then TP-Link Archer AX72 (at around S$80) is also not bad.

Singtel is quite stable for ONT users if you use your own router. Arguable it is the most stable consumer ISPs out there but with certain drawbacks like international latency. But I guess you are not hit by the issues mentioned in the second post of the thread, right?

But if you want to move out of Singtel, then yes M1 is a good choice.

1. Depends on the server. Latency is more important. In terms of latency, Singtel will win for China. M1 will win for many international locations. Speed does not really matter much in reality but Singtel will win a bit in general.

2. Please refer to the answer here. For M1 users, I will recommend to top-up for Asus GT-AX6000.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/which-router-is-better-asus-or-tp-link.6952537/

3. Please read the first post of this thread. It is said that you will be okay if you add Static IP and not using Freedom DNS. VQ is good in terms of speed and latency for many locations. Latency to China is not good as per the reports.

 

[xiaofan]

Can ask how is VQ? Now with M1 500mbps paying $30.18 also contract ended. Looking for something cheaper as looking to lower cost of broadband. Btw SIMBA still havent released their 2.5Gps BB?

Please read the first post of this thread.

As per the feedbacks from power users, you will need static IP add-on to get stable VQ, and please do not use Freedom DNS.

M1 500Mbps is a good plan to continue if you have no issues, and the out-of-contract remains the same. So you can just continue and then check whether SIMBA is good or not.

SIMBA 2.5G service will only start in the North Ease corridor as of now. Then it will be available by end of Jan 2024 as per the reports.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/simba-fibre-broadband.6883466/page-9

 

[aLpHa-Ev7]

Just wondering why you want to change?

I assue you are using ONT, if you read the first post, it is okay to stay with Singtel for ONT users. If you are not happy with Singtel issued router, just get your own router. For example, Asus TUF-AX4200 (at around S$249) can be a good choice. If you have low budget, then TP-Link Archer AX72 (at around S$80) is also not bad.

Singtel is quite stable for ONT users if you use your own router. Arguable it is the most stable consumer ISPs out there but with certain drawbacks like international latency. But I guess you are not hit by the issues mentioned in the second post of the thread, right?

But if you want to move out of Singtel, then yes M1 is a good choice.

1. Depends on the server. Latency is more important. In terms of latency, Singtel will win for China. M1 will win for many international locations. Speed does not really matter much in reality but Singtel will win a bit in general.

2. Please refer to the answer here. For M1 users, I will recommend to top-up for Asus GT-AX6000.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/which-router-is-better-asus-or-tp-link.6952537/

3. Please read the first post of this thread. It is said that you will be okay if you add Static IP and not using Freedom DNS. VQ is good in terms of speed and latency for many locations. Latency to China is not good as per the reports.

1. No issues, currently on ONT with Singtel. Just wanted to explore options.
2. VQ need static IP to be stable? if no static IPs will have issues?

 

[xiaofan]

1. No issues, currently on ONT with Singtel. Just wanted to explore options.
2. VQ need static IP to be stable? if no static IPs will have issues?

It is said that VQ is okay once you use static IP and a good router, and not using FreeDNS but rather 3rd party DNS servers.

Without static IP, it seems to be the most unstable ISP.

You can ask in the VQ thread for more details.

 

[Legend2127]

My contract with VQ gonna due in December.

Was wondering what would be a good plan to go for if I don’t need any routers and all my routers supports 2.5g wan/lan running aimesh.

can I assume all 2gbps are actually 1+1?

and is static ip important for regular use of gaming over lan and streaming over wifi?

appreciate some advice on this.

 

[ctchng]

My contract with Singtel has expired and was wondering should I change ISP.
I'm on 1GB plan with ONT and is using singtel router. Noticed that the speed is irregular. Sometimes below 700mbps sometimes above 900mbps. I used the router function only as I've setup 3xAPs for mobile devices only.
Most of the time using TV box for TV programme and drama and have experienced frequent buffering.
By changing ISP would solve the problem of dropped speed and buffering?

TIA

 

[xiaofan]

My contract with VQ gonna due in December.

Was wondering what would be a good plan to go for if I don’t need any routers and all my routers supports 2.5g wan/lan running aimesh.

can I assume all 2gbps are actually 1+1?

and is static ip important for regular use of gaming over lan and streaming over wifi?

appreciate some advice on this.

VQ 2Gbps and Singtel 2Gbps are not 1+1, they are single network aggregated 2Gbps plan.

Singtel 1+1, M1/Starhub/MR 2Gbps plans are dual 1Gbps plan (two networks).

Static IP is usually not important for M1/Starhub/MR/WC as they provide dynamic IPv4 address. For VQ/MR it can be important for certain use case as they are using CGNAT and do nor provide public IPv4 address. For example, you will need to pay for Static IP if you want to get Dual WAN Load Balancing to work with MR 2Gbps plan.

But 2Gbps plans are considered as only for niche use cases. Please read the following two posts.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ussion-part-2.5658375/page-558#post-149973241
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ussion-part-2.5658375/page-557#post-149961590

 

[xiaofan]

My contract with Singtel has expired and was wondering should I change ISP.
I'm on 1GB plan with ONT and is using singtel router. Noticed that the speed is irregular. Sometimes below 700mbps sometimes above 900mbps. I used the router function only as I've setup 3xAPs for mobile devices only.
Most of the time using TV box for TV programme and drama and have experienced frequent buffering.
By changing ISP would solve the problem of dropped speed and buffering?

TIA

Just get a new router will do, no need to switch ISP. SIngtel issued free routers are in general not good.

You can consider upgrade to a better router like Asus TUF-AX4200 (at about S$239) or TUF-AX6000 or GT-AX6000, depending on your budget.

Or if you want to have a low budget upgrade below S$100 -- then you can just get TP-Link Archer AX72 from Carousell (BNIB item is at about S$80).

 

[ctchng]

Thanks for the advise. If I’m not using the wireless features of singtel router, it functions is still not comparable to even the TPLink router?

 

[xiaofan]

Thanks for the advise. If I’m not using the wireless features of singtel router, it functions is still not comparable to even the TPLink router?

Yes, that is correct. What is the model of Singtel router you are using?

Singtel AC Plus --> Super lousy in terms of routing (worst router to be used with Singtel ONT).
Singtel Mesh Router --> usable but not good

 

[ctchng]

Yes, that is correct. What is the model of Singtel router you are using?

Singtel AC Plus --> Super lousy in terms of routing (worst router to be used with Singtel ONT).
Singtel Mesh Router --> usable but not good

Thanks. Is the Singtel Mesh Router. Will try the AX72 or AX73 if can get at $100. Would a dedicated router like ER7206 works similarly or better than AX?

 

[xiaofan]

Thanks. Is the Singtel Mesh Router. Will try the AX72 or AX73 if can get at $100. Would a dedicated router like ER7206 works similarly or better than AX?

You can easily get BNIB TP-Link Archer AX72 from Carousell at about S$80.

As for TP-Link ER7206, sorry but I am not familiar with that. From the spec it seems to be okay. But I do not know if it even works with SIngtel ONT or not.
https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/omada-sdn-router/tl-er7206/

 

[commanderkook101]

hi, as someone who just recontracted with singtel with unbridged ONR and looking to explore dual ISP setup (looking at starhub for now), what must i take note of? my FTP has 2 ports, can i simply just get starhub to plug their ONT into port 2? (singtel currently using port1)


how do i use both singtel unbridged and starhub network to not make singtel a white elephant

thanks in advance!

 

[Legend2127]

Was reading up on MR thread and their fb, was shocked that their outrage generated so much hate comments and post…

I was so close in signing up MR….

now got to go back and look for alternative.

 

[froztheart]

Was reading up on MR thread and their fb, was shocked that their outrage generated so much hate comments and post…

I was so close in signing up MR….

now got to go back and look for alternative.

But there's no better alternatives imo, sama sama for the res.
It comes to down to literal pricing for decision making when all the services standards are so poor. lol