Spotify or Apple Music??

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bought a HomePod mini awhile back so  Music just more convenient
 

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I'm on iPhone and Mac but prefer Spotify. Spotify is supported on more devices - TVs, Smart Speakers, etc than Apple. There are also more users on Spotify so its easier to share songs with friends. And Spotify's core product is Music so almost all their resources is focused on improving that product vs Apple which is just one category of product they have.
Funny that Spotify still hasn’t launch their hi res audio service if they are so focused on music. It’s been more than 2 years and still no news.
 

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Funny that Spotify still hasn’t launch their hi res audio service if they are so focused on music. It’s been more than 2 years and still no news.
i'm guessing cos most people dont need high res audio. There's more incentive trying to please the majority of your customers.
 

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i'm guessing cos most people dont need high res audio. There's more incentive trying to please the majority of your customers.
Thankful that Apple Music offers hi res audio without charging more. i can’t go back/downgrade to Spotify‘s audio quality anymore. 😊
 

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I'm on iPhone and Mac but prefer Spotify. Spotify is supported on more devices - TVs, Smart Speakers, etc than Apple. There are also more users on Spotify so its easier to share songs with friends. And Spotify's core product is Music so almost all their resources is focused on improving that product vs Apple which is just one category of product they have.
I find this "core business" argument a little weak, only because a lot of major music studios and artistes use Apple hardware to produce their stuff. Their relationship with Apple would be stronger. Also, as mentioned, Apple Music pays artistes >30x the royalties Spotify does. If I were an artiste, it makes more sense to prefer Apple because I get paid >30x more each time a song is played. Spotify becomes relegated to reaching the masses rather than as a primary means of income - especially with rampant sharing further reducing commercial viability.

Just because someone is a famous storefront does not necessarily suggest they have everything. It's like saying Netflix contains 100% of shows cos their core business is movies and TV shows - and we know that not to be true. At the end of the day, it's all business and their business negotiations matter.
 

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I find this "core business" argument a little weak, only because a lot of major music studios and artistes use Apple hardware to produce their stuff. Their relationship with Apple would be stronger. Also, as mentioned, Apple Music pays artistes >30x the royalties Spotify does. If I were an artiste, it makes more sense to prefer Apple because I get paid >30x more each time a song is played. Spotify becomes relegated to reaching the masses rather than as a primary means of income - especially with rampant sharing further reducing commercial viability.

Just because someone is a famous storefront does not necessarily suggest they have everything. It's like saying Netflix contains 100% of shows cos their core business is movies and TV shows - and we know that not to be true. At the end of the day, it's all business and their business negotiations matter.
Ofc there will be outliers in any scenario, and there can't be any absolutes in any circumstances. But its a logical assumption to have when comparing Spotify to Apple. And your perspective is from the artists and their business partners, but I'm talking from the consumer's point of view. As a customer, i don't care how much you are paying your artists or which platform they prefer, i just want things to work. And when I look at where Spotify is supported versus Apple Music, I am very much inclined to use Spotify.
 

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Ofc there will be outliers in any scenario, and there can't be any absolutes in any circumstances. But its a logical assumption to have when comparing Spotify to Apple. And your perspective is from the artists and their business partners, but I'm talking from the consumer's point of view. As a customer, i don't care how much you are paying your artists or which platform they prefer, i just want things to work. And when I look at where Spotify is supported versus Apple Music, I am very much inclined to use Spotify.
You just changed the argument.

I was pointing out your argument of Music being Spotify's "core business" as justification to support them terribly weak. Both platforms have pretty much similar support in terms of their libraries - despite one being a "side" business, to use your description. Where they differ is in heuristics and perception of support. However, if you have enough songs, your recommendations will more or less dovetail. I've been on both platforms for long enough, and I've chosen to go with the one that at least pays my artistes a bit more.

I then went on to point out one of (many) ethical concerns with Spotify including their actually paying artistes. There's also the whole Covid-19 vaccination fiasco where Spotify supported an antivaxxer during the pandemic. But that's a side issue, albeit something that users need to know to make an informed choice.

At the end of the day, use a platform you like. But at least make the effort to know a bit more - this is a forum where information is shared. Surely it can only be on the level of "I like, so I chose platform X over Y.", or it can be a more informed decision for users. Here, where price is identical, perhaps real fans prefer to feel like they can support their favourite artistes a little bit more each time they stream a song.
 

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You just changed the argument.

I was pointing out your argument of Music being Spotify's "core business" as justification to support them terribly weak. Both platforms have pretty much similar support in terms of their libraries - despite one being a "side" business, to use your description. Where they differ is in heuristics and perception of support. However, if you have enough songs, your recommendations will more or less dovetail. I've been on both platforms for long enough, and I've chosen to go with the one that at least pays my artistes a bit more.

I then went on to point out one of (many) ethical concerns with Spotify including their actually paying artistes. There's also the whole Covid-19 vaccination fiasco where Spotify supported an antivaxxer during the pandemic. But that's a side issue, albeit something that users need to know to make an informed choice.

At the end of the day, use a platform you like. But at least make the effort to know a bit more - this is a forum where information is shared. Surely it can only be on the level of "I like, so I chose platform X over Y.", or it can be a more informed decision for users. Here, where price is identical, perhaps real fans prefer to feel like they can support their favourite artistes a little bit more each time they stream a song.
I beg to differ, I shared my perspective that its logical to assume Spotify would dedicate all its resources to support its core product versus Apple - but your argument is that Apple pays it artistes more and they have more partners. I don't find a strong correlation in the 2 points you shared with how much resources Apple is dedicating internally towards music.

And I dont agree that people have to make the effort to know abit more - especially when we are only discussing music platform choices. This is not choosing which life insurance or baby milk formula to buy. Im not sure if you understand how most consumers shop for stuff, they mostly choose based on whats convenient, available, price or the impression they have of the brand or product, and yes there are people who choose to research and read up before making a choice but it certainly doesnt apply to every product/service out there.
 
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