SSD Price dropping......

[watzup_ken]

i feel sata ssd very slow

Then likely your feeling is lying to you. Using both NVME vs SATA, there is hardly any perceptible difference in speed. Unless of course if you are transferring big files all the time, then the NVME with higher seq transfer rate will be faster.

 

[helloworld321]

sometimes i do humbly wonder if folks like yourself ever mildly considered that SSD (and many other tech items like CPU, Mobo etc) isn't exactly a high volume product locally ?

i am thankful for e-commerce options that has added some healthy competition and somewhat levelled the playing field; i just got a Vega 56 at a much lower price than any local offerings (even with coupons) as i found the local premium a tad hefty for my price appetite.

However, ppl have to recognize that these tech items are not big volume movers. There's really no point running a business with thin margin if the corresponding volume isn't very significant to justify it. E.g. if SSD local prices moves within 10% of Amazon's, would it translate to 10X sales vol ? highly doubt so

for smaller ticket items like mobo, storage - i'd still support local as the quantum differential is still generally quite reasonable. Peace out..

i really can't be bothered with these local sellers, i don't owe them anything

 

[narkizy]

sometimes i do humbly wonder if folks like yourself ever mildly considered that SSD (and many other tech items like CPU, Mobo etc) isn't exactly a high volume product locally ?

i am thankful for e-commerce options that has added some healthy competition and somewhat levelled the playing field; i just got a Vega 56 at a much lower price than any local offerings (even with coupons) as i found the local premium a tad hefty for my price appetite.

However, ppl have to recognize that these tech items are not big volume movers. There's really no point running a business with thin margin if the corresponding volume isn't very significant to justify it. E.g. if SSD local prices moves within 10% of Amazon's, would it translate to 10X sales vol ? highly doubt so

for smaller ticket items like mobo, storage - i'd still support local as the quantum differential is still generally quite reasonable. Peace out..

Nice reasoning there. And hence why close to no one will ever buy large-volume SSDs from local resellers So you tell me: who wins in this case?

Option A: The consumer who can simply turn to Amazon even though shipping may take a week or more

or

Option B: The local reseller who INSISTS on charging a 70% markup and ends up not selling ANY of his stock at all, leading to a overall loss since he cant sell his stock of SSDs?

So just because SSDs are a niche product, its LOGICAL to be charging 70% markups even though its painfully, no, BLATANTLY obvious that we can get it cheaper elsewhere? What sort of nonsense argument is that?

Its like Best Denki selling Dell laptops at 4000 SGD when Dell.com.sg sells it at 2000 SGD online. Best Denki has the advantage of having a physical presence and shorter and cheaper shipping. But no one bothers buying from Best Denki

Best Denki realises they're making a loss since NO ONE buys their laptops that they ordered from the supplier, Dell. So instead of charging a small markup like say, 300$, they CONTINUE selling at 4000$, go bankrupt and then blame it on the consumers. Stupid hor?

Would You rather sell your stock that you already bought from the supplier and have on hand at a small markup that's REASONABLE and at least make some money or be an idiot and persist in selling that stock at a price that NO SANE PERSON WILL BUY AT? and basically be stuck with a full inventory of stock you cant sell?

Local retailers have the advantage of(for some) a physical store to browse and collect goods at, and a much shorter and cheaper delivery time. You charge me a reasonable markup for that, I'm more than willing to pay.

 

[Skyline34_]

Nice reasoning there. And hence why close to no one will ever buy large-volume SSDs from local resellers So you tell me: who wins in this case?

Option A: The consumer who can simply turn to Amazon even though shipping may take a week or more

or

Option B: The local reseller who INSISTS on charging a 70% markup and ends up not selling ANY of his stock at all, leading to a overall loss since he cant sell his stock of SSDs?

So just because SSDs are a niche product, its LOGICAL to be charging 70% markups even though its painfully, no, BLATANTLY obvious that we can get it cheaper elsewhere? What sort of nonsense argument is that?

Its like Best Denki selling Dell laptops at 4000 SGD when Dell.com.sg sells it at 2000 SGD online. Best Denki has the advantage of having a physical presence and shorter and cheaper shipping. But no one bothers buying from Best Denki

Best Denki realises they're making a loss since NO ONE buys their laptops that they ordered from the supplier, Dell. So instead of charging a small markup like say, 300$, they CONTINUE selling at 4000$, go bankrupt and then blame it on the consumers. Stupid hor?

Would You rather sell your stock that you already bought from the supplier and have on hand at a small markup that's REASONABLE and at least make some money or be an idiot and persist in selling that stock at a price that NO SANE PERSON WILL BUY AT? and basically be stuck with a full inventory of stock you cant sell?

Local retailers have the advantage of(for some) a physical store to browse and collect goods at, and a much shorter and cheaper delivery time. You charge me a reasonable markup for that, I'm more than willing to pay.

u clearly haven't run ur own biz before -- maybe u shld try it one day, cheers

 

[narkizy]

u clearly haven't run ur own biz before -- maybe u shld try it one day, cheers

Oh dont worry, I'll be sure not to overcharge my customers 170% and then wonder why no one buys my goods

 

[Sambuca78]

Amazon prices for 500GB and 1TB is quite unbeatable cos I bought a Evo 860 1TB at around $250. IIRC, a Samsung 500GB T5 from Amazon is around $150.

Saw a 250GB WD Blue M.2 at $99 in Lazada.

I hooted a 240gb Kingston a1000 m.2 at $86 from Lazada last month.

Me first time use SSD. Read speed at 1500+mb/s very song.

 

[helloworld321]

u clearly haven't run ur own biz before -- maybe u shld try it one day, cheers

Should people visit blockbuster because they are a “local business” instead of Netflix? The company should change and learn to compete accordingly. Don’t tell me if Singtel charge double you’ll still sign Singtel cause support local?

 

[wwenze]

We must be cheaper faster better

Not I say one

 

[Skyline34_]

Should people visit blockbuster because they are a “local business” instead of Netflix? The company should change and learn to compete accordingly. Don’t tell me if Singtel charge double you’ll still sign Singtel cause support local?

no, i don't support local for the sake of it; from time to time, i chose online overseas retailers vs. local shops - simply because the price gap is too huge for me , like many good folks here. As I mentioned, I just bought a vega 56 at a price i don't see being matched anytime locally.

in the past, local distro for any products in general didn't have to face online competition either locally or overseas so unfortunately, consumers were generally "at the mercy" of the distros so I think during this period, they def. had it good; thankfully with the proliferation of e-commerce, consumers like us (and esp. those who do their homework) are now empowered to make more cost-effective purchases - who wouldn't want to stretch their dollar ?

but those steep mark-ups on the surface for local products are not always as immensely profitable as we sometimes think they are. From according margin to physical shops, to rent, logistics, staff, etc all these eats into the pie; SG is a very small market - we do not have the volume to play the numbers game with a razor-thin margin unlike many overseas market

what I do hope is a disruptor in the regional SEA tech scene, who can come up with a biz model that brings price efficiency into the current scene. If there's one layer that's inefficient - it's the physical retailer in general, their value-add is getting less and less relevant in today's landscape for DIY IT hardware

 

[HolyInnocents]

amazon = amazon prime for sg? the one with $2.99 membership per month?

or the original amazon site?

sorry i'm abit confused w amazon in general

 

[Kairos]

Amazon Prime SG (International)


Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB (M.2) - S$386

WD Black 1 TB (M.2) - S$403


Can buy? International warranty??

 

[Phen8210]

u clearly haven't run ur own biz before -- maybe u shld try it one day, cheers

That nzdadsa guy is a troll just block and ignore him.

 

[Phen8210]

Then likely your feeling is lying to you. Using both NVME vs SATA, there is hardly any perceptible difference in speed. Unless of course if you are transferring big files all the time, then the NVME with higher seq transfer rate will be faster.

so how to make it faster?

 

[royfrosty]

You guys think that we are the only one paying premium for retail PC goods?

Look at Taiwan, Hk, Msia, and even in Jap. Their PC stuffs are in fact equally priced or in fact higher than us. This is something you guys need to understand. Operating cost in SG is high. No matter how you wanna sell cheap if there is no demand, business will close shop. PC goods is one of them, there is no way that they will sell with 10% mark up in local stores. This isn't like clothings where it is a necessity items and more people are buying it (less branded clothes that cost x amount of dollars).

If you guys feel that retailers are overcharging, then please by all means buy somewhere else. Its your own money. There are things that are not meant to be bought online, there are things that we as a person need to see and feel it in the retail stores rather than online, things like clothes size, lingerie, certain baby products, expensive watches, higher value items, audio products (buying it without testing it). These are the few reasons that retailers are still surviving.

PC stuffs are generally much smaller target audience. So don't expect prices to be cheap locally. At the end of the day, buy where you feel comfortable the money should go to. There is no need to try to convince others to buy overseas as because it is x amount cheaper.


I think this thread has de-railed. Back to topic.....

I personally think that SSD prices drop is mainly the TLC made SSDs, or rather the smaller capacity ones. Just hoping that TLC SSDs such as Samsung NVME 970 EVO 1tb would drop further for more people to adopt this drive.

 

[shadow84]

so how to make it faster?

Check ur boot up programs. Disable those that are not important. Besides, wads ur boot up timing? Or what part of ur ssd feels slow??

 

[Ark Law]

Lol, everytime got thread about pricing, sure will have someone start fire/kpkb about local distro pricing, fire grow big then some lao jiao will later knock some common sense reality check back in

 

[creative_vitamin]

Which amazon site?

 

[-ikigai-]

I personally think that SSD prices drop is mainly the TLC made SSDs, or rather the smaller capacity ones. Just hoping that TLC SSDs such as Samsung NVME 970 EVO 1tb would drop further for more people to adopt this drive.

QLC SSDs are coming soon, they may replace HDDs for mass storage, hopefully we can see the price of NVMe TLC SSDs to drop as a result.

 

[Outramkia]

no, i don't support local for the sake of it; from time to time, i chose online overseas retailers vs. local shops - simply because the price gap is too huge for me , like many good folks here. As I mentioned, I just bought a vega 56 at a price i don't see being matched anytime locally.

in the past, local distro for any products in general didn't have to face online competition either locally or overseas so unfortunately, consumers were generally "at the mercy" of the distros so I think during this period, they def. had it good; thankfully with the proliferation of e-commerce, consumers like us (and esp. those who do their homework) are now empowered to make more cost-effective purchases - who wouldn't want to stretch their dollar ?

but those steep mark-ups on the surface for local products are not always as immensely profitable as we sometimes think they are. From according margin to physical shops, to rent, logistics, staff, etc all these eats into the pie; SG is a very small market - we do not have the volume to play the numbers game with a razor-thin margin unlike many overseas market

what I do hope is a disruptor in the regional SEA tech scene, who can come up with a biz model that brings price efficiency into the current scene. If there's one layer that's inefficient - it's the physical retailer in general, their value-add is getting less and less relevant in today's landscape for DIY IT hardware

The disruptors supposedly are newegg and amazon but we knew how it turned out

 

[Outramkia]

Oh dont worry, I'll be sure not to overcharge my customers 170% and then wonder why no one buys my goods

Bro faster bring in goods ley. I want to buy from you. Got provide warranty boh?