Starting TrueNAS [DIY NAS] for New Users

[morimorimori]

Avoid intel 13, 14 gen for now. Don't know how long it will take for potentially defective chips to clear from inventory.

 

[hairymonster]

Avoid intel 13, 14 gen for now. Don't know how long it will take for potentially defective chips to clear from inventory.

Agreed. Go with Gen 12. The uhd730 on it is perfect for media transcoding.

 

[TanKianW]

Avoid intel 13, 14 gen for now. Don't know how long it will take for potentially defective chips to clear from inventory.

Agreed. Go with Gen 12. The uhd730 on it is perfect for media transcoding.

@evildoctor Support what the above 2 gentlemen recommend.

I will go with AMD EPYC or Zen, but that is just me.

 

[TanKianW]

LAWRENCE SYSTEM: UPDATES ON TRUENAS Core and TRUENAS SCALE

Here are some updates on the current TrueNAS Core and TrueNAS Scale development from Tom of Lawrence Systems. The upcoming TrueNAS Scale "Electric Eel" is in Open Beta now, feel free to try it since you can easily roll back on versions on TrueNAS. Moving forward Kubernetes has been replaced with the much more popular "Docker" which makes more sense from a "Home NAS" perspective. Docker packages (plugins) are also more optimised and updated. Below are some other TrueNAS Scale-related videos for informative watch and for those who are still sitting on the fence about whether to jump ship from Core to Scale. One of my recent TrueNAS Scale build can be found here: HERE






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[hairymonster]

How would you advise going with Qnap qts/quts or truenas scale? Only problem for me going to truenas scale is docker. The post you showed that Kubernetes has been replaced with docker which is very good news. But not sure how that would fare in production. I'm using Qnap only for reverse proxy, crowdsec, openapp and arrs. What are your views on this?

 

[TanKianW]

How would you advise going with Qnap qts/quts or truenas scale?​

That is totally up to you. Whichever suits your style. I will go with TrueNAS anytime, but that is just me.
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The post you showed that Kubernetes has been replaced with docker which is very good news. But not sure how that would fare in production. I'm using Qnap only for reverse proxy, crowdsec, openapp and arrs. What are your views on this?​

You can try out the Open Beta on a VM and test it out. On the cautious side, I will think Open Beta is "not yet ready" for production.

For "production" my storage servers (or NAS) are used solely as storage, never to run Dockers/Kubernetes. I will separately run all my Kubernetes/Dockers on my hypervisor system, backed by the storage server.

 

[uris]

Just happen on this thread as I am considering retiring my Synology ds1819+ as I am reaching capacity (20+TB used out of 24 TB) and performance is middling. Had a lot of struggles with iSCSI performance. I also tried their virtualisation station and container manager but CPU is always a huge bottleneck.

I plan to switch from VMWare to Nutanix Community + OKD for my homelab. But I will still need a NAS and I plan to house 1 copy of essential VMs in each (for example, 1 AD in NAS and 1 in Nutanix).

The recent Synology offerings are not promising and TrueNas looks to be a decent alternative to try. But I am struggling at finding a good chassis. I need a short depth rack mount or a tower that does not take up more than 4RU as that is the space left on my rack now. I just need 8 disk. i think i can do sufficient with them. I plan to run a SSD-based volume for my OKD persistent volume and a normal volume for my family photos/videos/ebooks/general archive (maybe with a SSD cache if performance doesn't do)

Any suggestions? My mandarin sucks so any idea how to navigate Taobao?

 

[TanKianW]

Just happen on this thread as I am considering retiring my Synology ds1819+ as I am reaching capacity (20+TB used out of 24 TB) and performance is middling. Had a lot of struggles with iSCSI performance. I also tried their virtualisation station and container manager but CPU is always a huge bottleneck.

I plan to switch from VMWare to Nutanix Community + OKD for my homelab. But I will still need a NAS and I plan to house 1 copy of essential VMs in each (for example, 1 AD in NAS and 1 in Nutanix).

The recent Synology offerings are not promising and TrueNas looks to be a decent alternative to try. But I am struggling at finding a good chassis. I need a short depth rack mount or a tower that does not take up more than 4RU as that is the space left on my rack now. I just need 8 disk. i think i can do sufficient with them. I plan to run a SSD-based volume for my OKD persistent volume and a normal volume for my family photos/videos/ebooks/general archive (maybe with a SSD cache if performance doesn't do)

Any suggestions? My mandarin sucks so any idea how to navigate Taobao?

There should be lots of tower/desktop chassis out there offered by Jonsbo:
https://www.jonsbo.com/en/product/ComputerCase/NASMotherboardSeries.html

Short-depth rack mount chassis will require more DIY work and enhancements shared here:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...etwork-upgrade.6341518/page-11#post-153069584

Extra enhancements shared here:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...etwork-upgrade.6341518/page-17#post-154089625​

 

[TanKianW]

**TrueNAS Scale 24.10 Electric Eel is Finally Official - Docker is Back with K8S Removed**

 

[uris]

There should be lots of tower/desktop chassis out there offered by Jonsbo:
https://www.jonsbo.com/en/product/ComputerCase/NASMotherboardSeries.html

Short-depth rack mount chassis will require more DIY work and enhancements shared here:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...etwork-upgrade.6341518/page-11#post-153069584

Extra enhancements shared here:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...etwork-upgrade.6341518/page-17#post-154089625​

Unfortunately, my rack is a network rack. I can only accommodate up to 36cm depth and your EDNSE 4U seems to be 50cm?

uNAS NSC-810A seems to be close to perfect (5RU, 8 bays) but I can't seem to find where it can be purchased. OOS everywhere.

Jonso N4 seems to be the only option but when I compared it to my existing ds1819+, it is 6 RU (228mm) vs 4RU (168mm). If I can find something 4RU that will be perfect but even 5 will be better. My rack is only 14RU so 6RU is a little too much

 

[uris]

Found only this so far. Looking at 13" deep chassis just to be safe (33cm)
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Cloud-12-bay-hot-swap-server_1600153401048.html

 

[TanKianW]

Found only this so far. Looking at 13" deep chassis just to be safe (33cm)
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Cloud-12-bay-hot-swap-server_1600153401048.html

I have considered this chassis before but given it up due to the 1U height limitation for mobo and CPU.

I prefer a much more powerful CPU and room for a large amount of memory, so I opted for a bigger rackmount NAS chassis like the one I am using now.​

 

[TanKianW]

**SHARING: Setting up a Travel NAS on Tiny PC running nVMe SSD on TrueNAS Scale**

An idea came to me when setting up my GL-iNet travel router on OpenWRT....instead of using a USB attached drive.....why not repurpose the TinyPC which I previously used for running bare-metal Home Assistant server as a "Travel NAS"? Without a second thought, set it all up to run TrueNAS Scale and used it as my travel PLEX server (Docker app) on a 1TB SSD. It's pretty compact which could easily be thrown into my backpack/luggage and a good way to bring your PLEX server along for vacation. Instead of DL-ing all the movies/TV series onto one mobile device. Now, all families connected to the travel router can access the "mobile library" on-the-go, at the same time setup SMB share for backing up all photos during vacation.

Looks "stackable" too! This shall be my "travel homelab setup" moving forward.

 

[nckeong88]

Do N100 motherboards normally include the N100 cpu already?

 

[TanKianW]

Do N100 motherboards normally include the N100 cpu already?

Yes. CPU included.

This series of CPUs are classified as "embedded system"​

 

[merriman]

Hi guys. I need some help with regards to remote access.

Currently I have Truenas running on a N5105. I have installed Nextcloud from the apps side panel in Truenas.

I'm able to access both Truenas and Nextcloud remotely through Wireguard vpn, which was configured in another machine that runs Home Assistant.

But just realised that in this setup, I'm unable to share a public nextcloud link to another person that have no access to my vpn.

I already have a dynamic dns service already setup in the Home Assistant machine and can access Home assistant remotely as well through this.

How can I also use the same domain name to access my nextcloud instance? What are the correct port forwarding settings to configure in my router?

I still have a great deal to learn about these networking stuff ; pardon my ignorance. Any kind of help or point in right direction will be greatly appreciated.

Some arbitrary details:

Machine #1 (Home Assistant)
-Ddns from duckdns up and running
-https://xxx.duckdns.org

Machine #2 (Truenas)
-local ip:
local.truenas
-nextcloud installed: local.truenas:nextcloud

 

[TanKianW]

Hi guys. I need some help with regards to remote access.

Currently I have Truenas running on a N5105. I have installed Nextcloud from the apps side panel in Truenas.

I'm able to access both Truenas and Nextcloud remotely through Wireguard vpn, which was configured in another machine that runs Home Assistant.

But just realised that in this setup, I'm unable to share a public nextcloud link to another person that have no access to my vpn.

I already have a dynamic dns service already setup in the Home Assistant machine and can access Home assistant remotely as well through this.

How can I also use the same domain name to access my nextcloud instance? What are the correct port forwarding settings to configure in my router?

I still have a great deal to learn about these networking stuff ; pardon my ignorance. Any kind of help or point in right direction will be greatly appreciated.

Some arbitrary details:

Machine #1 (Home Assistant)
-Ddns from duckdns up and running
-https://xxx.duckdns.org

Machine #2 (Truenas)
-local ip:
local.truenas
-nextcloud installed: local.truenas:nextcloud

Suggest you create another domain name for your nextcloud server.

You can research on how to set up a "reverse proxy" server.

I recommend running your VPN (WireGuard or Tailscale) and reverse proxy server (HAproxy) using pfsense.

Can learn more about pfsense here:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/starting-pfsense-for-new-users.6390714/

 

[1 Ghz]

After accumulating parts for 1.5 years, I finally built my TrueNAS box. I took some inspiration from the all-nvme Asustor Flashstor.

AMD Ryzen 5750GE
Coolserver R64 2U heatsink w/ Noctua A6x25 PWM
ASrock B550 ITX/AX
Crucial DDR4-3200 ECC 32GB x2
Intel P4610 7.68TB SSD x8 (RaidZ1, data)
Intel Optane P1600X SSD 118GB (apps)
Intel Optane M10 16GB SSD (usb->M.2, boot)
Ceacent CNS44PE16 NVME HBA
Chelsio T6225-CR (M.2->Oculink->PCIE)
Noctua A8 PWM x2
Arctic P8 Slim PWM x2
HDPlex 250W GaN PSU
MyElectronics.nl short depth 2U mini-ITX case
Terramaster D6-320 w/ WD HC570 22TB x5 (RaidZ2, backup)

Most of the parts except for heatsink, HBA and DAS were bought while I was in the US, so prices are lower than what you would pay in SG. In particular, the P4610s were bought in mid 2023 prior to the recovery of NAND prices, and they were cheaper than even the Intel S4520 or Samsung 870 QVO.

One lesson I learnt is the importance of the NIC. Previously, I used an Aquantia AQC107 and it couldn't sustain 10Gbps for large downloads. The Chelsio card has no such issues. But the Aquantia was also tested in Bluefin and Dragonfish vs Electric Eel for Chelsio ...

 

[1 Ghz]

Looks like TrueNAS Scale 25 will come with RDMA support for NFS, but only for systems with Enterprise license.

https://www.truenas.com/docs/scale/gettingstarted/scalereleasenotes

https://ixsystems.atlassian.net/browse/NAS-131784

Here's hoping the same happens for SMB.

 

[1 Ghz]

DirectIO has also been merged into OpenZFS.

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/for.../1492777-openzfs-merges-support-for-direct-io