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Hey Geo, you can try alternating the wrist placement between sets. Alternatively, use chalk? Straps will also be useful despite what the detractors say about it, E.G. Less forearm development.

I find that for the barbell row, your wrist structure can affect your chance of getting an injury or strain with this exercise. As I have a small bone structure, I strained my wrist tendons when I was first starting out with this exercise, and it took me a couple of months for the strain to go away. For people with larger bone structures, they likely wouldn't have the same problem.
 

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Majestic12 said:
Hey Geo, you can try alternating the wrist placement between sets. Alternatively, use chalk? Straps will also be useful despite what the detractors say about it, E.G. Less forearm development.

I find that for the barbell row, your wrist structure can affect your chance of getting an injury or strain with this exercise. As I have a small bone structure, I strained my wrist tendons when I was first starting out with this exercise, and it took me a couple of months for the strain to go away. For people with larger bone structures, they likely wouldn't have the same problem.

don't do that.. unless you're a powerlifter, deadlifitng with an alternating grip would cause an imbalance in your spine.. think about it, the position you put yourself in with one palm facing yourself and the other facing out.
 

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X_slinger said:
I pondered about the deadlift last nite. I have decided to stick with the deadlifts but at about 75-85 percent of my max . When you are tired or its too heavy , that is when the form will be affected and injuries come .
Good work sticking with it. As long as you're making progress, 75-85% of your max should be ok. It's still very taxing when I do that.
 

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Geo said:
Okay, I managed to up my full squat to 110kg x 6 rep x 1 set this morning but I am not sure if my form is correct as I tend to bend my knees foward. It was so taxing that I hv been sleeping all day to recover from the workout :)

I am not sure about mass gain wif deadlift but I am sure that it improves my barbell row. Since i started seriously on deadlift, my barbell row increase 50kg to 65kg in 2 mths. I think probably is becoz lower back is the stabilizer for bb row so strengthening lower back will help.

I hit a snag in deadlift, my right wrist is weaker than my left. if I were to grip the bar with my right palm facing inward, it tend to slips so I hv to grip it with right palm facing outward and left inward:s27:. I don't think this is good in long term as the right wrist will continue to be weaker than left.
Wow, that's a big improvement! Congrats! What do you mean by bending your knees forwards? How do you squat if you don't bend your knees forward? Anyway, I'll update it for now, but if you feel your form's not at 100% you can always update later :)

And oh, there's nothing wrong with using that grip in deadlifting. It's quite normal in fact, I do that too. It increases your grip strength by quite a bit.
 

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nakorius said:
Ok... today... I did my virgin bench press :D Not many people around, thought it wouldn't be as embarassing if I did screw-up :p

I started with no weights and did 3sets x 10 reps.

Then I moved on to their lightest weight (I don't remember the weight) :p

And moved on and on... until finally I slapped on the 20.4kg plates on each side.

Proceeded to add a 2nd tiny plate until I reached the 15.9kg plate as my 2nd plate.

I felt that this was as far as I could go in terms of safety without a spotter and it being my first time.

Total kg: 92.6kg including the bar x 2 rep. (Max 1 RM calculated is 95kg)

Erm... is this alright for a first time bench presser?

Depends on how heavy you are, but almost doing 2 plates on your first try is nothing to laugh about, especially after so many other sets before that. You should be able to hit 2 plates a side w/o those other sets wearing you down. Anyway, let us know when you try your deadlifts/squats so I can add them to the stats finally! :)
 

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Majestic12 said:
Hey Geo, you can try alternating the wrist placement
between sets. Alternatively, use chalk? Straps will also be useful despite what the detractors say about it, E.G. Less forearm development.

I find that for the barbell row, your wrist structure can affect your chance of getting an injury or strain with this exercise. As I have a small bone structure, I strained my wrist tendons when I was first starting out with this exercise, and it took me a couple of months for the strain to go away. For people with larger bone structures, they likely wouldn't have the same problem.
Yes, that's what i do but when it comes to right palm facing inward, the bar tend to slip off. My right wrist was injured in a skateboard accident when I was a teenager.

I feel that is a bit early 4 me to use strap becoz i am not lifting very heavy yet. Will consider that when I hit 3 plates on each side =:p.

I am glad that I hv bigger bone than most pple. My main problem wif bb row is I cannot maintain 90 degree bend as i tend to cheat by rasing my body during during the lift. Nevertheless, doing deadlift does help to improve the form in bb row.

eljefe said:
don't do that.. unless you're a powerlifter, deadlifitng with an alternating grip would cause an imbalance in your spine.. think about it, the position you put yourself in with one palm facing yourself and the other facing out.
Bro, pls do not scare me, even my trainers and gym mate told me to use alternative grip. One thing is for sure, if i check my posture wif the side mirror to ensure my lower back is not arched, the body wil tend to slant to one side. As such, i am trying not to use the side mirror too often.

galapogos said:
Wow, that's a big improvement! Congrats! What do you mean by bending your knees forwards? How do you squat if you don't bend your knees forward? Anyway, I'll update it for now, but if you feel your form's not at 100% you can always update later.

And oh, there's nothing wrong with using that grip in deadlifting. It's quite normal in fact, I do that too. It increases your grip strength by quite a bit.
Okay, is a long story. When I 1st switched from smith press to rack, my squat form was totally wrong. My knees go fwd when i descend and my trainers corrected it by asking me to do 1/2 squat to bench. They always remind me "imagine u are lowering yr butt to seat on a chair". It was so bad that i started with dumbbell when doing 1/2 squat but after several practice, i got the trick :) The trainer was not free yesterday so I couldn't get him to observe my form but I think it should be correct. Will get the trainer to confirm next week :)

Thanx for clarifying the alternate grip on deadlift. It was a false alarm afterall. Btw, I hv also managed to up my bench press to 75kg x 6 rep x 1 set 2day thanx to the wide grip and power rack (I was doing bp in power rack and the safety bars boosted my confidence :)). Hope i can hit 2 plates by end of Nov.
 

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nakorius said:
Ok... today... I did my virgin bench press :D Not many people around, thought it wouldn't be as embarassing if I did screw-up :p

I started with no weights and did 3sets x 10 reps.

Then I moved on to their lightest weight (I don't remember the weight) :p

And moved on and on... until finally I slapped on the 20.4kg plates on each side.

Proceeded to add a 2nd tiny plate until I reached the 15.9kg plate as my 2nd plate.

I felt that this was as far as I could go in terms of safety without a spotter and it being my first time.

Total kg: 92.6kg including the bar x 2 rep. (Max 1 RM calculated is 95kg)

Erm... is this alright for a first time bench presser?

wow.. u are a bench monster. train well and with good technique, u can do 4plates/side bench in afew years time. congrats.
 

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Galapogos: Will do so :) My current weight is 118kg :D

Fishbuff: If I can ever have your strength I will be happy hehe and only if I can ever top the stats page then I can be the monster :p

4 plates is a little scary, but not impossible I guess :D
 

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I had originally wanted to max out at 85 kgs for my bp today for a new PR. But "chickened" out a little and went for 82.5 kgs intead. Happily, I still managed 9 full reps and failed on the 10th. Yay! New PR. Next week - 85 kgs - here I come.
 

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nakorius said:
Galapogos: Will do so :) My current weight is 118kg :D

Fishbuff: If I can ever have your strength I will be happy hehe and only if I can ever top the stats page then I can be the monster :p

4 plates is a little scary, but not impossible I guess :D

motto is; if i can do it, so can anyone.
take it easy and slow. i can share with u where i went wrong on various exercises so that u can avoid injury and improve your strength well. perhaps we can start with another thread to share on strength building, and invite captnj to share some of his experiences as well.
 

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Thor: Congrats and good luck with the new PR!

Fishbuff: Sounds like a great idea. Injury is definitely something I hope avoid :D
 

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Bodyweight: 77Kg
BP: 100Kg
DL:160kg
Squats: 140kg (stagnant for long long time) :(
Militarypress:65kg
 

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raider128 said:
Bodyweight: 77Kg
BP: 100Kg
DL:160kg
Squats: 140kg (stagnant for long long time) :(
Militarypress:65kg

getting more and more strength beasts in this forum. cool! :D
 

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wow, new stats. i'm in the office now so i don't have my excel sheet with me. i'll update them tonight, but raider128 looks like he's gonna join the top ranks of the list!
 

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no man, I am not that strong compared to the rest of the dudes here. I having problem with squats, cannot get pass 140kg for almost 18mths. sigh..
 

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OK, updated thor123 and raider128's stats. Raider has displaced me as #2 in top deadlifters by BW. Dammit, hopefully this wednesday I can set a new PR and reclaim #2 :p
 
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