SUSS vs AUS Uni

[Ottoke]

Threads merged.

Edited for proper quoting.

Thread reopened.

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[Vestigestorm]

For your information, anyone google also know Ivy League got how many uni... no need for u to post here... want to know what Harvard ranking u can google also... and wow, u realised mit is not Ivy! Good job man I just testing you only

How other uk/us University accept people is another thing... we are talking about nus vs aus Uni here, of course I’ll talk about local u so I’ll stay on topic unlike someone

For experience/internship etc, it’s up to op(undecidedguy) to decide what he wants... be it 3 months or 3 years

Nice admitting indirectly you are wrong , good job! Your pride up there la !
Take your Local U and keep quiet now

PS, you can't seem to google so i helped u lor. Don't need test , your world very small from the start don't need hide the fact.

 

[AnimalPlanet]

Results show... surely a higher ranking Uni is better than a lower one whether u like it or not...

Alright then. I am an NTU undergraduate and my uni is better than you and your beloved NUS then, since NTU>NUS on ranking. Thanks for putting my school on a pedestal!

 

[loststeak]

Go SUSS if you want to stay local and/or believe in SUSS's growth potential.

If not UOM is very good.

 

[Herpaderpus]

Nice admitting indirectly you are wrong , good job! Your pride up there la !
Take your Local U and keep quiet now

PS, you can't seem to google so i helped u lor. Don't need test , your world very small from the start don't need hide the fact.

Nice reading skills you have... I was never wrong

I think you are the one who don't know how to google... and i know you mean your world is small from the start?

 

[Herpaderpus]

Alright then. I am an NTU undergraduate and my uni is better than you and your beloved NUS then, since NTU>NUS on ranking. Thanks for putting my school on a pedestal!

Rankings can change. SUSS might become the top 1 day you never know.

 

[Vestigestorm]

Nice reading skills you have... I was never wrong

I think you are the one who don't know how to google... and i know you mean your world is small from the start?

Yeah for someone who don't even know MIT wasn't even the Ivy League and consist of 8 Members , Don't even know Overseas Universities requirements are more than your 'best university' and don't even know what Business prospects can bring you... my world is really small then.

There's a reason why PSC Scholars flock overseas to study at your NUS. Heck even Singapore ministers mostly goes overseas than study at your NUS. You sound as though if people got the opportunity/finance to go overseas to study none will go and all will continue studying in Local U. So much for "Local U are the best" HAHAHAHA. You are a joke.

Guess i will stop here or it will be a waste of my time

 

[UndecidedGuy]

Go SUSS if you want to stay local and/or believe in SUSS's growth potential.

If not UOM is very good.

Truth is I think, and quote me if I’m wrong, its going to be a very slow growth for SUSS so by the time I get the degree it’s probably still not there yet

 

[Vestigestorm]

Truth is I think, and quote me if I’m wrong, its going to be a very slow growth for SUSS so by the time I get the degree it’s probably still not there yet

Yeap, rather it's not even on the world rankings yet since they haven't started long ago.

However, if you are intending to work in Singapore then i think it's fine. But if you are intending to like half half go Aus/Singapore to keep your options open then i think UOM will be a more suitable choice for you.

Do you have exemptions from UOM? Like advance standing 1-2 Years.

 

[Herpaderpus]

Yeah for someone who don't even know MIT wasn't even the Ivy League and consist of 8 Members , Don't even know Overseas Universities requirements are more than your 'best university' and don't even know what Business prospects can bring you... my world is really small then.

There's a reason why PSC Scholars flock overseas to study at your NUS. Heck even Singapore ministers mostly goes overseas than study at your NUS. You sound as though if people got the opportunity/finance to go overseas to study none will go and all will continue studying in Local U. So much for "Local U are the best" HAHAHAHA. You are a joke.

Guess i will stop here or it will be a waste of my time

I think you need to go back primary school because you can't read thanks for entertaining me the world needs more jokers like you around

 

[Vestigestorm]

I think you need to go back primary school because you can't read thanks for entertaining me the world needs more jokers like you around

No worries ! Stay in your NUS and be delusional (what you do best) , "best".

 

[Herpaderpus]

No worries ! Stay in your NUS and be delusional (what you do best) , "best".

says the one who's delusional

 

[Ottoke]

Warnings issued to both.

Quit all your bickerings before I close thread again.

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[patryn33]

Warnings issued to both.

Quit all your bickerings before I close thread again.

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Should ban them, similar topics can start the bickering again

Anyway TS went MIA

 

[UndecidedGuy]

Yeap, rather it's not even on the world rankings yet since they haven't started long ago.

However, if you are intending to work in Singapore then i think it's fine. But if you are intending to like half half go Aus/Singapore to keep your options open then i think UOM will be a more suitable choice for you.

Do you have exemptions from UOM? Like advance standing 1-2 Years.

I don’t mind just working in Singapore tbh. And I’ve got an advance standing of 1 year for UOM, that makes it a 2 years bachelors for UOM compared to a 4 years honours at SUSS.

Problem is i’ve heard from my friends in the course I’m attending that it’s very hard to score well (most only get 3rd class), and its not because they didn’t put in the effort but rather on the university’s stance that they have to be stricter since they’re becoming an autonomous uni. Not saying that i’ll let it dictate my scores as well but it’s a good gauge realistically speaking. I’m more confident to score well in UOM.

With that I’m not sure if lets say an employer is presented with a 3rd class honours from SUSS vs a 2nd upper from UOM, which of this will be more favourable?

 

[AnimalPlanet]

I don’t mind just working in Singapore tbh. And I’ve got an advance standing of 1 year for UOM, that makes it a 2 years bachelors for UOM compared to a 4 years honours at SUSS.

Problem is i’ve heard from my friends in the course I’m attending that it’s very hard to score well (most only get 3rd class), and its not because they didn’t put in the effort but rather on the university’s stance that they have to be stricter since they’re becoming an autonomous uni. Not saying that i’ll let it dictate my scores as well but it’s a good gauge realistically speaking. I’m more confident to score well in UOM.

With that I’m not sure if lets say an employer is presented with a 3rd class honours from SUSS vs a 2nd upper from UOM, which of this will be more favourable?

Of c cos second upper. Honours is more impt. First class unknown uni > third class famous uni

 

[yodatan]

I don’t mind just working in Singapore tbh. And I’ve got an advance standing of 1 year for UOM, that makes it a 2 years bachelors for UOM compared to a 4 years honours at SUSS.

Problem is i’ve heard from my friends in the course I’m attending that it’s very hard to score well (most only get 3rd class), and its not because they didn’t put in the effort but rather on the university’s stance that they have to be stricter since they’re becoming an autonomous uni. Not saying that i’ll let it dictate my scores as well but it’s a good gauge realistically speaking. I’m more confident to score well in UOM.

With that I’m not sure if lets say an employer is presented with a 3rd class honours from SUSS vs a 2nd upper from UOM, which of this will be more favourable?

UOM also got similar standard and bell curve grading one so it shouldn’t make a difference. Only thing I’d add is think of the opportunity cost of the 2 years, which u can spend working and earning $$$ and not paying school fees, or getting a masters. In aus honours is 1 year of research and is a direct path to PHD, so you could finish the honours in 3 years in aus and still havent graduate from aSuss

 

[Herpaderpus]

I don’t mind just working in Singapore tbh. And I’ve got an advance standing of 1 year for UOM, that makes it a 2 years bachelors for UOM compared to a 4 years honours at SUSS.

Problem is i’ve heard from my friends in the course I’m attending that it’s very hard to score well (most only get 3rd class), and its not because they didn’t put in the effort but rather on the university’s stance that they have to be stricter since they’re becoming an autonomous uni. Not saying that i’ll let it dictate my scores as well but it’s a good gauge realistically speaking. I’m more confident to score well in UOM.

With that I’m not sure if lets say an employer is presented with a 3rd class honours from SUSS vs a 2nd upper from UOM, which of this will be more favourable?

They see which Uni u come from. U think ppl will hire someone from Harvard or someone with first class from tom dick n Harry Uni? Ur choice ts... wanna work here I highly recommend getting your local u degree here instead of overseas uni(unless ur going MIT or the likes)

Education cert level in sg at least (from best to lowest)
1 Ivy League and the likes
2 local U
3 overseas u
4 pte u
5 diploma
6 Nitec

 

[chibster]

Rankings are good indicatives (at best) of universities strengths with regards to faculties. But they can be somewhat misleading because it takes into account reputation, research papers and other intangibles which may not be limited to just academia concerns of the institution.

For example, NTU is ranked 11 but if you were to look at subject ranking (which i believe to be a more accurate representation and ranking), it loses out in almost every field of studies when compared to NUS. So i'd like to encourage everybody to stop swinging your dick around with regards to university rankings and instead focus on the QUALITY of your degree.

For big firms such as Jp morG, goldman, BCG, Bain etc, most of them only hire 1:1 students from top institutions around the world. From a singapore perspective (based on what my senior told me), to even stand a chance for an interview, you need a 1:1 if from NUS, Ntu and a summa from SMU (ceteris paribus).

To give a rough indicative on the strength of singapore degrees as compared to overseas, I'd say that a 1:1 from nus/ntu/smu would compare to a 2:1 from oxbridge, lse, ucl, kings, ivy league and ivy + schools. However all of this are open to different interpretations as companies have different perspectives on graduates from different institutions. Reputation supersedes rankings.

My ex's mum is a high ranking director in JP Morg and she says that they prefer overseas grad as compared to singapore grads because of exposure etc, while this is a specific example, it goes to show that different companies and organisations have different metrics on how they access candidate suitability.

My main concern is not about the strength of universities in australia (referring to ANU, Unimelb, usyd, unsw). It is the reputation and baggage which comes along with it. Perceptions on Universities will never be egalitarian, so there is bound to be disparity between perception of degrees around the world, resulting in a hierarchical, capitalistic environment for fresh graduates. Like it or not, substantial amounts employers perceive australia as big3 rejects. Regardless of the degree of truth to each individual case, that is a substantial amount of companies which views australia universities this way.

With that being said, for most companies, degree classification is more important than the university name on the PRECEDENT that the institutions are somewhat comparable in terms of academia (eg, nus to lse as compared to RMIT from SIM vs Nus).

Lastly, for the business industry, it is more friendly towards graduates from other countries as compared to smaller industries like the law sector. Law degree holders from oz have huge troubles securing TCS in Singapore. However, for business, it is easier to secure a job. However good or bad depends on your connections and of course grades in university.

 

[Kuudere]

If you are alright working in Australia for the short-term and will like to build up your work experience(which is more important to business graduates),go for UWA/UoM because honestly the prestige of the uni in Australia doesn't affect getting a job there especially since Australia has numerous states,with UWA being the best in Perth and UoM being the best in Melb. And ultimately,if you score a good gpa, you are even able to pursue masters in top tier universities around the world and override your initial accomplishments. What I know about Australia uni compared to Sg uni,is that students generally score better,pretty sure there are more Australian uni graduates going for masters compared to Sg uni graduates.(Not just a matter of getting the GPA score,but the curriculum there is more process-oriented,a large no. of Sg graduates lose the motivation to pursue graduate school after getting through their undergrad here)

If you want to work in Sg,you can go for SUSS,but I don't think it really has a huge difference with Australian universities. I might even think that Australian uni have better recognition instead.

My advice for you from what you shared,is to go for the former,since you are not so concerned about working in Australia and getting PR in the short run. What I understand is that Sg values professionals with long work experience and usually treats fresh overseas graduates with caution.(which I is why I am planning to do the above and decide later on). If you have relatives/friends or want to work in Perth,go for UWA. If you have relatives/friends or want to work in Melb,go for UoM.