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Apple is backed by profits at 30+ pe.

Tesla is like 900 pe lol

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Tesla has made advances in EV, autonomous driving, battery technology, solar, space technology with their sister company spaceX, tunnelling technology with Boring, satellites with Starlink etc etc etc.

Apple's greatest claim to fame in recent years is a $999 monitor stand :s22:
 

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Buying tesla is like buying the future eg. sustainable energy and autonomous driving.
And tesla is the first and only to have vertical integration. This ecosystem is a strong moat

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No different from Apple. Actually Apple is probably worse. After the death of Jobs, they're now primarily a luxury brand first and foremost.

yup i have this view that unless apple comes up with something disruptive, they are basically failing

that being said, they are market leaders in this space

ipads are #1 in education space
 

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Tesla has made advances in EV, autonomous driving, battery technology, solar, space technology with their sister company spaceX, tunnelling technology with Boring, satellites with Starlink etc etc etc.

Apple's greatest claim to fame in recent years is a $999 monitor stand :s22:

Nope....what apple does best...is being able to repeatedly sell a high profit margin product with a lifespan of 1 to 2 years to a band of loyal customers.

That, my friend....is the magic which Tesla still lacks right now.
 

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Nope....what apple does best...is being able to repeatedly sell a high profit margin product with a lifespan of 1 to 2 years to a band of loyal customers.

That, my friend....is the magic which Tesla still lacks right now.

Yes, because Tesla is more ethical than that. How long can Apple sustain this? No new innovative products + 1-2 year lifespan of overpriced made in China gadgets and worse of all, they're becoming near impossible for 3rd party repair?
 

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Yes, because Tesla is more ethical than that. How long can Apple sustain this? No new innovative products + 1-2 year lifespan of overpriced made in China gadgets and worse of all, they're becoming near impossible for 3rd party repair?

If Tesla can justify it's current share price to its loyal fan base....i don't see why apple can't.

At least apple has the market share and products+sales to match their share price....that's something Tesla still needs to work on.

Ethics is BS in business. If Tesla is truly ethical....they wouldnt be taking any taxpayer money through carbon credits and reselling them for cash.....

Tesla stinks to high heaven when it comes to cronyism due to those carbon credits grant they receive from their govt.

If they just kept those credits then sua. But to resell them for cash is just pure cronyism.

so pls spare me the ethics portion when it comes to Tesla.
 
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If Tesla can justify it's current share price to its loyal fan base....i don't see why apple can't.

At least apple has the market share and products+sales to match their share price....that's something Tesla still needs to work on.

Ethics is BS in business. If Tesla is truly ethical....they wouldnt be taking any taxpayer money through carbon credits and reselling them for cash.....

Tesla stinks to high heaven when it comes to cronyism due to those carbon credits grant they receive from their govt.

If they just kept those credits then sua. But to resell them for cash is just pure cronyism.

so pls spare me the ethics portion when it comes to Tesla.

You shorted Tesla and got burned, didn't you?
 

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You shorted Tesla and got burned, didn't you?

No i didnt short tesla.

Im just stating facts...these facts are still facts whether you like it or not. Just like how you stated apple products have no innovation....these are facts.

Facts like ethics in business is BS in general.

Facts like tesla still need to work on really making a profit without relying on free money if they want to justify their current share price.

Also i actually think their virtual power plant is a great idea and electrification will be more and more commonplace in the future.

In fact...im investing indirectly in tesla thru copper and other rare earth mineral companies.
 

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It is almost like some of the people here are married to Tesla.
Buy the dips and hold until death do you part ! :s13:
 

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No i didnt short tesla.

Im just stating facts...these facts are still facts whether you like it or not. Just like how you stated apple products have no innovation....these are facts.

Facts like ethics in business is BS in general.

Facts like tesla still need to work on really making a profit without relying on free money if they want to justify their current share price.

Also i actually think their virtual power plant is a great idea and electrification will be more and more commonplace in the future.

In fact...im investing indirectly in tesla thru copper and other rare earth mineral companies.

wow first time I heard about this virtual power plant... what sorcery is this? can explain more?
 

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My sincere advice for Tesla owners.. Pls be careful. If ok take back yr capital and keep the rest of the profit let it roll. Any bad news from Tesla would cause it to trumble down hard.
 

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wow first time I heard about this virtual power plant... what sorcery is this? can explain more?

Basically tesla will host an electrical market exchange.

Pre-requisite is having a large enough battery capacity to store extra energy during off-peak hours and unload during peak hours. also they will need all the utilities operators to sign up with them as well as local governments' support.

Under the plan, tesla vehicles supposedly can plug into the grid, communicate with the electrical marketplace exchange server and act like a battery....owner of the vehicles will earn some pennies/incentives(depending on peak/offpeak) while doing this.

This idea is mainly for tackling the unreliabilty of solar and wind.

Cons of this plan is.
1. Political hurdles.
2. Competition have no incentive to sign up.
3. Difficult to monetize.
4. Competition can always come up with a similar product.
5. The more electricity moves thru the grid or gets converted into battery storage....the more energy you lose to heat.


Still...this is an idea i like and would like to see it get developed into an economical solution.
 
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Tesla has made advances in EV, autonomous driving, battery technology, solar, space technology with their sister company spaceX, tunnelling technology with Boring, satellites with Starlink etc etc etc.

Apple's greatest claim to fame in recent years is a $999 monitor stand :s22:

Speculative.
Others have the same advancements.


Most of those assets are not in tesla too.

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not sure what u guys are arguing.

any share u buy go up is good shares

any share u buy go down is rubbish shares

either option 1 or 2.

nothing more or less.
 

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not sure what u guys are arguing.

any share u buy go up is good shares

any share u buy go down is rubbish shares

either option 1 or 2.

nothing more or less.

u forgot the most important part

whether u can get in and out at the right time
 

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Haters gonna hate!
People are spending own money to gamble or invest, why haters are so busy body to come out NONSENSE to hoax people not to invest in TSLA.

What do haters gain ? No one stopping them to buy/short other stocks.

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