Tesla stock

[aurvandil]

They earn by buying calls? If things go wrong they lose money too what

The basic idea is to pump the stock and then dump it on long term "buy-and-hold" retail investors, often affectionately called "bag holders".

The more "bag holders", the easier and safer it is to pump and dump.

To make it easier for the big players to earn money, brokers like Robinhood which charge 0 commission sell the order flow data of their customers. This allows the big players to build a profile of the prices retail investors are entering the stock, where they are placing their stops etc. Based on current law, it is illegal for brokers to use order flow data to front run their customers. It is however not illegal to sell order flow data so that someone else can front run.

 

[iridiot]

The basic idea is to pump the stock and then dump it on long term "buy-and-hold" retail investors, often affectionately called "bag holders".

The more "bag holders", the easier and safer it is to pump and dump.

To make it easier for the big players to earn money, brokers like Robinhood which charge 0 commission sell the order flow data of their customers. This allows the big players to build a profile of the prices retail investors are entering the stock, where they are placing their stops etc. Based on current law, it is illegal for brokers to use order flow data to front run their customers. It is however not illegal to sell order flow data so that someone else can front run.

Thanks for sharing . Learnt about front running and order flow data , wow . We are compounding at 50% per annum , they are probably doing far more than that

 

[moolala]

Chicken Genius Singapore

https://www.portfoliomagsg.com/article/whats-in-my-portfolio-teng-kenyuan.html

People call me Ken. I am the founder of an options mastery program that empowers thousands of people to financial freedom. I own a local company that manufactures world-class trophies, and an investment company in the UK. I am also an inspirational blogger who has been reaching out to thousands of people since 2014.

My portfolio is pretty diversified. I draw inspirations from successful people, and I realize that they all have one thing in common—a diversified portfolio that is a great defense in case your investment thesis goes wrong.

I'm currently invested in an infrastructure project that builds sewage pipes, cabling, etc., on pieces of land before they are handed over to developers. I also invest in real estate and pension-grade investment products in the UK, as well as stocks and bonds all over the world. Recently, I also began investing in treasury bills.

lololol, time to troll him and call him ken on his channel
diversified? Tia gong he's big in one stock called tsla

can tell he just got lucky

 

[moolala]

The basic idea is to pump the stock and then dump it on long term "buy-and-hold" retail investors, often affectionately called "bag holders".

The more "bag holders", the easier and safer it is to pump and dump.

To make it easier for the big players to earn money, brokers like Robinhood which charge 0 commission sell the order flow data of their customers. This allows the big players to build a profile of the prices retail investors are entering the stock, where they are placing their stops etc. Based on current law, it is illegal for brokers to use order flow data to front run their customers. It is however not illegal to sell order flow data so that someone else can front run.

quite puzzled, isn't time and sales reflecting the part in bold?

tbh I think this order flow thing is overrated if u have small account

just a question, since IBSG is a separate entity, does that mean they are selling order flow even for pro customer? it's not subject to US laws

 

[bakuten]

he's not a guru... a snake oil salesman

for him to suggest to buy now at these prices is just a scam

ok la....the info and his reasons behind buying those stock is understandable.

the only thing is i don't agree with his conclusions nia.

whatever tesla is promising in the future. doesnt justify the current price.
if they manage to pull off everything they promised within the next 5 years....then current price may somewhat still be justified....but i don't see that happening anytime soon....or even at all.

also....fundamentally....i do not believe that carbon is bad for the earth....simply cuz all lifeform on earth are carbon based.....more CO2 + sunlight = more greenery = more animals thriving.

all this "green energy" crap has been pushed by governments around the world have not been done for the earth....but for lining their pockets(taxes and related companies that they own).


green energy related companies(including EVs) have been relying on government subsidies and cronyism(look at california outlawing ICE vehicles by 2025) in order to even survive....let alone making profits.

remember.....nobody needed to enact laws to get people to switch from horses to ICE vehicles.
the freemarket decided on that because the economics work.

an industry that is relying on perpetual governmental intervention in order to survive.... does not bode well for that industry at all.

all these subsidies are possible only due to the special global fiat monetary system we are on at the moment.
this is a unique situation in human history.
never has the whole world been on a fiat monetary system that has to be inflated perpetually in order to stay solvent.

ever wondered what would happen when governmental deficit spending around the world stops?
debt cannot be inflated away indefinitely without running into major monetary problems.
when that day comes....all the subsidies will go away....
only then will we finally see which "green" companies are relying governmental subsidies and which ones are truly profitable.

my opinion is that 99% of all these companies will go bankrupt without the subsidies.

green energy utilities will probably be that 1% that survives until they have to replace their aging windmills and solar panels.....they will probably go bankrupt when that time comes.

invest with care!~

 

[moolala]

He is a youtuber who earns $ from views. He got lucky on his initial call to buy Telsa and has quite a large following who think he is an investment "guru". He also sells courses. He has been looking for his next Tesla but so far, no luck.

actually why do ppl sell courses ah?

I know alot of US traders have businesses that sell course to offset capital gains tax

but he's a donkey in sg that don't have cap gain tax

I think so far he has no luck so selling vids on youtube is his next option

 

[moolala]

ok la....the info and his reasons behind buying those stock is understandable.

the only thing is i don't agree with his conclusions nia.

whatever tesla is promising in the future. doesnt justify the current price.
if they manage to pull off everything they promised within the next 5 years....then current price may somewhat still be justified....but i don't see that happening anytime soon....or even at all.

also....fundamentally....i do not believe that carbon is bad for the earth....simply cuz all lifeform on earth are carbon based.....more CO2 + sunlight = more greenery = more animals thriving.

all this "green energy" crap has been pushed by governments around the world have not been done for the earth....but for lining their pockets(taxes and related companies that they own).


green energy related companies(including EVs) have been relying on government subsidies and cronyism(look at california outlawing ICE vehicles by 2025) in order to even survive....let alone making profits.

remember.....nobody needed to enact laws to get people to switch from horses to ICE vehicles.

an industry that is relying on governmental intervention in order to survive.... does not bode well for that industry at all.

ever wondered what would happen when governmental deficit spending around the world stops? debt cannot be inflated away indefinitely without running into major monetary problems.
when that day comes....all the subsidies will go away....
only then will we finally see which "green" companies are relying governmental subsidies and which ones are truly profitable.

my opinion is that 99% of all these companies will go bankrupt without the subsidies.

green energy utilities will probably be that 1% that survives until they have to replace their aging windmills and solar panels.....they will probably go bankrupt when that time comes.

invest with care!~

Don't need tax.. just regulations can kill ICE
I think green cars, if at same price point and everything else, would be a superior option
that's why it's so hyped... we know Europe, China cares about carbon emissions

as long as UN keep pushing climate change, EV will be part of the strategy

 

[bakuten]

Don't need tax.. just regulations can kill ICE
I think green cars, if at same price point and everything else, would be a superior option
that's why it's so hyped... we know Europe, China cares about carbon emissions

as long as UN keep pushing climate change, EV will be part of the strategy

regulations = governmental intervention.
europe + china care = governmental intervention.
UN pushing = governmental intervention.
carbon credits = governmental intervention.

all these are only possible because of deficit spending enabled by this unnatural fiat monetary system.
it is gonna end in tears eventually for everybody due to the economy being so skewed by governmental intervention.

economics will always revert to the mean after being pushed too far towards 1 end without fail as history has shown.

Rome met it's end after massive debasement of their money.

Chinese dynasties(Tang, Song, Yuan) that used paper monies to run deficit spendings also ran into major problems and collapsed afterwards.

now whole world on paper....real interest rates at negative....

it aint gonna end well man

 

[moolala]

regulations = governmental intervention.
europe + china care = governmental intervention.
UN pushing = governmental intervention.
carbon credits = governmental intervention.

all these are only possible because of deficit spending enabled by this unnatural fiat monetary system.
it is gonna end in tears eventually for everybody due to the economy being so skewed by governmental intervention.

economics will always revert to the mean after being pushed too far towards 1 end without fail as history has shown.

Rome met it's end after massive debasement of their money.

Chinese dynasties(Tang, Song, Yuan) that used paper monies to run deficit spendings also ran into major problems and collapsed afterwards.

now whole world on paper....real interest rates at negative....

it aint gonna end well man

imo, as long as usa number 1 militarily, musical chair will keep rolling
even if number 2, u still need a western counterweight to China and US is the front for that

 

[bakuten]

imo, as long as usa number 1 militarily, musical chair will keep rolling
even if number 2, u still need a western counterweight to China and US is the front for that

it's still gonna end eventually.
either mathematically.....or voluntarily by governments.

my guess is that the voluntary abandonment is already in the works.

bank of international settlement didn't reclassify gold into a tier 1 asset back in 2019 for no reason.

when that day comes.....all these subsidies will be cut....
then we will truly see if Musk is who many of the tesla investors thought he was.

 

[HMAN]

Very boring to see so many loose cannon shooting blanks..

Loose cannon.

Loose cannon usually has no added value or contributions to the company, society,and mand kind.

Loose cannon like to find chances to dig other shortcomings and criticize for the sake of criticising.
Loose cannon contributed nothing .

Sent from Samsung SM-T830 using GAGT

 

[Hua_Hui]

Very boring to see so many loose cannon shooting blanks..

Loose cannon.

Loose cannon usually has no added value or contributions to the company, society,and mand kind.

Loose cannon like to find chances to dig other shortcomings and criticize for the sake of criticising.
Loose cannon contributed nothing .

Sent from Samsung SM-T830 using GAGT

i see what you done there

 

[NewInvestor]

Tesla seems to be climbing again. On the way to $500 again? Maybe some brothers here will hv to eat their words.

 

[moolala]

Tesla seems to be climbing again. On the way to $500 again? Maybe some brothers here will hv to eat their words.

if it really go up, means on uptrend again................

 

[NewInvestor]

if it really go up, means on uptrend again................

There is no logic to Tesla's rise other than they hv an almost cult following. I dont hv any strong views. I just go along for the ride n make some tens of thousands.

 

[pm_me_ur_noods]

ok la....the info and his reasons behind buying those stock is understandable.

the only thing is i don't agree with his conclusions nia.

whatever tesla is promising in the future. doesnt justify the current price.
if they manage to pull off everything they promised within the next 5 years....then current price may somewhat still be justified....but i don't see that happening anytime soon....or even at all.

also....fundamentally....i do not believe that carbon is bad for the earth....simply cuz all lifeform on earth are carbon based.....more CO2 + sunlight = more greenery = more animals thriving.

all this "green energy" crap has been pushed by governments around the world have not been done for the earth....but for lining their pockets(taxes and related companies that they own).


green energy related companies(including EVs) have been relying on government subsidies and cronyism(look at california outlawing ICE vehicles by 2025) in order to even survive....let alone making profits.

remember.....nobody needed to enact laws to get people to switch from horses to ICE vehicles.
the freemarket decided on that because the economics work.

an industry that is relying on perpetual governmental intervention in order to survive.... does not bode well for that industry at all.

all these subsidies are possible only due to the special global fiat monetary system we are on at the moment.
this is a unique situation in human history.
never has the whole world been on a fiat monetary system that has to be inflated perpetually in order to stay solvent.

ever wondered what would happen when governmental deficit spending around the world stops?
debt cannot be inflated away indefinitely without running into major monetary problems.
when that day comes....all the subsidies will go away....
only then will we finally see which "green" companies are relying governmental subsidies and which ones are truly profitable.

my opinion is that 99% of all these companies will go bankrupt without the subsidies.

green energy utilities will probably be that 1% that survives until they have to replace their aging windmills and solar panels.....they will probably go bankrupt when that time comes.

invest with care!~

it's better to subsidize clean/renewable energy than dinosaurs fuel...

 

[pm_me_ur_noods]

It is just his opinion. Take it with a pinch of salt.

I dunno how it can be a "scam". Lol

any disagreement here is just a scam here cause all the real gurus here know what they talking about.

 

[pm_me_ur_noods]

According to Singapore's number 1 Tesla guru, you should buy and hold 10 years and possibly more.

https://youtu.be/ovmp-xsRPGs

His advice is very similar to PM Goh who sold us those Singtel shares in 1993/1996. For those who bought and are still holding, how good is that advice 25+ years later?

His advice also very similar to Warren Buffet who told people to buy and hold. I worry for Warren Buffett sometimes...

 

[Galaxy77]

if it really go up, means on uptrend again................

Yeah. Otherwise, means on downtrend.






















Lol

 

[moolala]

Yeah. Otherwise, means on downtrend.















Lol

haha, think deeper about it, stock market is actually a very simple thing: 2 basic choice: up or down

bet in the correct direction and u huat
get it wrong and u ??

sideways no count as its a draw