The Almighty Z5!

[Genkunzz]

the olive green looks great

 

[ragnarok95]

Healthy discussion pls.

 

[Dutch!]

guys smartphone only lah dont need to quarrel.. its just a damn gadget that even ginnas can afford..

 

[waterballoon]

everyone buy a smartphone only for its camera?
camera on a smartphone to me is just an emergency solution when I really need to take photo.

put it this way: if a professional photographer is using the best camera smartphone to do your wedding portraits... are you OK with it?

then explain why award-winning productions like Modern Family literally have a couple of episode shot entirely on the iPhone? maybe Apple paid them, but heck it's a TV show that broadcasts all all over America. if the quality was shitty, it wouldn't even qualify for production.

and your second part. um that IS the point. he's a professional photographer. he should be using a good camera that's not on a smartphone.

are we professionals? no. do most consumers still want comparable image quality despite that? yes. Does Sony deliver on that point? as of now, nope.

 

[rssd21]

guys smartphone only lah dont need to quarrel.. its just a damn gadget that even ginnas can afford..

Oh yeah, I often wonder where they get those money to buy phones when I was previously a poor student.

 

[rssd21]

Healthy discussion pls.

Yes sir. I will refrain from engaging with haters again.

 

[stacipher]

hope QC would be good....

 

[DigDub]

so I presume stocks will arrive in shops today?

 

[Sghero]

I'm not even considering HTC when I compare image quality... poor HTC lol.

and yes camera experience and picture quality are different things. maybe I worded wrongly, but I meant the entire process - frm taking the phone out, to launching the camera, to snapping a photo, to have it saved to the gallery and finally to have it look good.

what you mentioned like ease of use, capture speed/latency are absent in Sony. let me rectify first by saying that at least from YouTube and what I've observed at 313@Somerset, Sony nailed the AF speed even without laser AF and those gimmicks, so kudos.

now my best friend, her bf, her sister and her sister's bf all are using Sony because of my persuasion but she always tells me the camera isn't good. to her (the average consumer), Sony Xperia phone cameras are slow to launch, slow at focusing and take average photos. now some fan boys won't like it but I think the perspective of a fan boy comapred to what the average consumer thinks are always world's apart.

next, how is the Xperia camera app capable of providing a holistic camera experience on a smartphone? let me give a few examples:

1) no true Manual mode. "Manual" mode tweaks a few things like ISO, WB which are weirdly negated when you switch to certain modes. but wait! you say, Apple's camera app has no Manual mode too. yeah they dont, but their Auto mode is one of the best around and do you really want Sony to be comapred to Apple?

2) small details like, exposure slider and HDR toggle are not omnipresent. you have to often dig through the settings just to find basic things like this that are already in their competitors' camera apps.

3) most frustrating of all: the extreme stupidity of why using Quick Launch = SA mode I will never understand, especially if you last used Manual mode. like ??? I don't get it

4) I agree that Sony Xperia has decent camera sensors that can take decent photos, but only if you set everything up correctly - the scene, the camera settings like scene mode, ISO, WB, HDR etc. and then finally you will get something comparable.

but look, most people just gonna point-and-shoot. this is the reality of this era and smartphones. people wanna take it out, take photos of the sunset, their dinner, their friends, their babies. photography has evolved from taking model photos and landscapes to capturing your life.

thus the average person has no technical ability to "set up" their camera like how Sony needs to be in order to be good. they only know, launch, tap, shoot. who does that the best? your answer will tell you why that particular phone is so popular.

again, I must emphasize I am not anti-Sony. I said it before, I'll say it again. I've used every Z-Series phone except the Z1 Compact and Z Ultra and I like so many things like build quality, water resistance and battery life.

but look, camera is one aspect that an OEM can never run away from and Sony sadly is horrible at it, ironically. I've said it before too that it's very frustarting because these guys DESERVE to do well but they don't.

No ********. For HP camera u either choose Samsung or apple even asus. Sony superior auto is not superior to the other brands. But the sony battery life is better loh. Reason why they are not selling more phones are they never listen to their consumers.

 

[eeLsinneD]

I already said previously that launch will be 17th Oct but no one seemed to be take attention.

News from you, carlover and zephyr are very accurate. We all know one

 

[eeLsinneD]

You should be encouraging others to get Sony.
You do know less and less people choose Sony, the more it can't survive. It's trying its best to increase it's market share and stay afloat.

Well, call me selfish, but I ain't keen to see a majority of people owning the same stuff as me +_+

That is why iamalamePHONE and Galactica are forever a nono for me

 

[eeLsinneD]

Anyway, why the debate over camera function???
If camera is important, might as well get an SLR, right??

SONY's edge over other brands is its Japanese keyboard and full Japanese system language, which I love.

Heh.

 

[colin27]

so I presume stocks will arrive in shops today?

In fact, yesterday night some shops have it

 

[manutdonline]

But more importantly, when's the z5c coming sia...

 

[shager]

But more importantly, when's the z5c coming sia...

More importantly when is the Z5P coming?

 

[reavervon]

In fact, yesterday night some shops have it

Are they selling it already?

 

[rssd21]

More importantly when is the Z5P coming?

Sounds like late Nov. Long neckers happy waiting.

 

[haylui]

then explain why award-winning productions like Modern Family literally have a couple of episode shot entirely on the iPhone? maybe Apple paid them, but heck it's a TV show that broadcasts all all over America. if the quality was shitty, it wouldn't even qualify for production.

and your second part. um that IS the point. he's a professional photographer. he should be using a good camera that's not on a smartphone.

are we professionals? no. do most consumers still want comparable image quality despite that? yes. Does Sony deliver on that point? as of now, nope.

so you are agree with Apple that even iPhone can do video capturing job like RED or other cinematic grade cameras?

come on, those professional use iPhone to film some episodes and the show won awards are two different thing. Those scenes are carefully designed. Basically you're agree with professional using smartphone to do shoots for you.

 

[kopi22]

Sadly, even the upcoming Lumia 950 also showcasing its next Gen camera. So yes, consumers get smart phones for its UX as well as their camera capabilities. Camera on the smart phones are not only for emergencies. Professionals will of course get professional cameras. Average joes like me will get the best point and shoot smart phone camera out on the market.

everyone buy a smartphone only for its camera?
camera on a smartphone to me is just an emergency solution when I really need to take photo.

put it this way: if a professional photographer is using the best camera smartphone to do your wedding portraits... are you OK with it?

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[yhw22]

Well, call me selfish, but I ain't keen to see a majority of people owning the same stuff as me +_+

That is why iamalamePHONE and Galactica are forever a nono for me

Yes...to me both brands are identical. Kept copying each other from one another......