The Official Property Agent Thread ~

[vinz]

I have taken ceha before in 2004. And i have also taken the ceha in 2012.
I can be an agent if i register with an agency...

Why do you need to take CEHA twice in the first place?

I am very sure those who had taken ceha last time and now will tell u the difference.
The reason you think that ceha then and now is still same standard is because if you taken then you are a novice and if you take now you are more experienced and a practicing agent.

I was a practicing agent for two years before I attempt CEHA and only manage to pass it on my 2nd attempt.

I have looked at the res papers before cea was formed and this year's cea. Can pass the paper doesn't mean its easier, its because i know about the industry because i practise. But to a novice then and now, the standards have gone up by a lot.

And if you still think ceha and res nowadays are not as hard, then cea will read this and improve the barrier even further which also means that agents still think the exams are easy and something which cea does not like to read

I was looking through my nephew pri school science and maths exam paper and some of the questions I seriously don't know how to answer.

When was exams ever easy in the first place? Maybe when the newly started RES was up and many "agent without 4 O-Levels" are allowed to attempt the exam, there may be some so called "easier questions" inside.

CEA is formed to up the standard of agent, and one way is to have more so called "educated agents" (at least 4 O levels the last i know) .

I will be glad that they up the standard of the exam every year to keep up with the time.

-vinz

 

[nauhchop]

Why do you need to take CEHA twice in the first place?

I was a practicing agent for two years before I attempt CEHA and only manage to pass it on my 2nd attempt.I was looking through my nephew pri school science and maths exam paper and some of the questions I seriously don't know how to answer.

When was exams ever easy in the first place? Maybe when the newly started RES was up and many "agent without 4 O-Levels" are allowed to attempt the exam, there may be some so called "easier questions" inside.

CEA is formed to up the standard of agent, and one way is to have more so called "educated agents" (at least 4 O levels the last i know) .

I will be glad that they up the standard of the exam every year to keep up with the time.

-vinz

I took ceha in 2004 because just wanted to take it, and that was prior to joining agency.
There were 3 papers i failed 2. But it was all textbook questions which i did not really study for it. Last time ask on JTC questions.

Nowadays ceha is so much different. Study from textbooks is not enough as they require a lot of knowledge on the grounds. So a rookie who has not been in the industry and has to go through the terms can be very challenging.

So in 2012 i took again and i passed all papers in 1 sitting as the 2004 has lapsed. I did not study my notes as detailed because many are questions which answers i already knew from practise and also when working for developer.

So comparing both 2004 and 2012, it was a contrast as standards has increased by a lot.
If u do not believe what I said, then ask those who has taken ceha way before cea was formed to go and take the paper now. None will take up the challenge because its really much harder now. Also the passing rate does not mean u answer 50% correct means u will pass. Their passing grade heard from trainer was at least 70-75% correct answers before giving u a pass.

And u cannot deny that the barrier last time and now, the bar has been raised many times and set to be raised further in time to come.

 

[killerer]

When I was taking my RES, it was (officially?) stated that passing mark was 60% but looking at the number of ppl who failed, i doubt this passing mark is being followed. Coupled with the fact that one cannot view their test papers, our results are at the discretion of CEA.

 

[Bieffe]

When I was taking my RES, it was (officially?) stated that passing mark was 60% but looking at the number of ppl who failed, i doubt this passing mark is being followed. Coupled with the fact that one cannot view their test papers, our results are at the discretion of CEA.

Can view but u need to pay. Then as always u think they will make mistake? I knew of someone who paid to view and really got mistake. LL pay to retake also.

 

[Bieffe]

I took ceha in 2004 because just wanted to take it, and that was prior to joining agency.
There were 3 papers i failed 2. But it was all textbook questions which i did not really study for it. Last time ask on JTC questions.

Nowadays ceha is so much different. Study from textbooks is not enough as they require a lot of knowledge on the grounds. So a rookie who has not been in the industry and has to go through the terms can be very challenging.

So in 2012 i took again and i passed all papers in 1 sitting as the 2004 has lapsed. I did not study my notes as detailed because many are questions which answers i already knew from practise and also when working for developer.

So comparing both 2004 and 2012, it was a contrast as standards has increased by a lot.
If u do not believe what I said, then ask those who has taken ceha way before cea was formed to go and take the paper now. None will take up the challenge because its really much harder now. Also the passing rate does not mean u answer 50% correct means u will pass. Their passing grade heard from trainer was at least 70-75% correct answers before giving u a pass.

And u cannot deny that the barrier last time and now, the bar has been raised many times and set to be raised further in time to come.

too many agents so they clamp down. The case study very tricky.

 

[noel13]

Can view but u need to pay. Then as always u think they will make mistake? I knew of someone who paid to view and really got mistake. LL pay to retake also.

Bro. I believe that even u paid to appeal doesn't mean it u can see you paper again.

Is just paying CEA money to look into your paper and mark again that's all.

 

[s7460597]

When I was taking my RES, it was (officially?) stated that passing mark was 60% but looking at the number of ppl who failed, i doubt this passing mark is being followed. Coupled with the fact that one cannot view their test papers, our results are at the discretion of CEA.

Effort is needed to pass the papers. II would be easier to have full attendance during the course, pay attention and read the notes. Several times if possible. it's not enough to rely on practical experience as policies change frequently.

 

[tennisguy]

Hi guys,

I have passed both my papers for RES exam

Wondering which agency to join.

I have heard from my trainer that whether you do well in this line, really depend who is your team leader. No point going for those that are too successful as he or she will not have time for you.

Can anybody here verify?

Thanks.

 

[nauhchop]

Hi guys,

I have passed both my papers for RES exam

Wondering which agency to join.

I have heard from my trainer that whether you do well in this line, really depend who is your team leader. No point going for those that are too successful as he or she will not have time for you.

Can anybody here verify?

Thanks.

There are 2 types of agents.
1 that is personal sales. The other is pure recruitment.
2 schools of thought.
The one that is doing pure recruitment will tell you that they dedicate their time to u because they don't do so much sales as other agents.
The one that is doing personal sales is one who will tell u they don't do mass, and with not many down lines, they can dedicate more time with u and because they are producers, they got more experience.

So who u think sound more convincing?

Then they will start to tell u how strong their brandings are.
No offense against any agencies but i feel agents these days are steering off course.
They create a division in the company and start to tell you how strong their branding are.


What i want to say is, if you are an agent who join under that company branding, its because that branding is strong and make use of it. Creating sub brands and sub divisions is like telling people your main brand is not as strong and thus need to create a secondary brand.
If you are propnex, you are propnex, if you are era, just era. Why sub division here sub division there?

As an agent, joining the industry is to make money. If need to join sub division or brand, it means you are not leveraging on the branding of the main brand.

Thus when u talk to agency leaders these are some clues on how u assess them.

 

[noel13]

There are 2 types of agents.
1 that is personal sales. The other is pure recruitment.
2 schools of thought.
The one that is doing pure recruitment will tell you that they dedicate their time to u because they don't do so much sales as other agents.
The one that is doing personal sales is one who will tell u they don't do mass, and with not many down lines, they can dedicate more time with u and because they are producers, they got more experience.

So who u think sound more convincing?

Then they will start to tell u how strong their brandings are.
No offense against any agencies but i feel agents these days are steering off course.
They create a division in the company and start to tell you how strong their branding are.


What i want to say is, if you are an agent who join under that company branding, its because that branding is strong and make use of it. Creating sub brands and sub divisions is like telling people your main brand is not as strong and thus need to create a secondary brand.
If you are propnex, you are propnex, if you are era, just era. Why sub division here sub division there?

As an agent, joining the industry is to make money. If need to join sub division or brand, it means you are not leveraging on the branding of the main brand.

Thus when u talk to agency leaders these are some clues on how u assess them.

Totally agreed with the statement.
Clap clap.
Well Say!!

 

[jweak13]

Most likely you are not someone senior in the industry. There is a lot of differences in the structure in real estate industry. However things are improving due to CEA initiatives.

There are 2 types of agents.
1 that is personal sales. The other is pure recruitment.
2 schools of thought.
The one that is doing pure recruitment will tell you that they dedicate their time to u because they don't do so much sales as other agents.
The one that is doing personal sales is one who will tell u they don't do mass, and with not many down lines, they can dedicate more time with u and because they are producers, they got more experience.

So who u think sound more convincing?

Then they will start to tell u how strong their brandings are.
No offense against any agencies but i feel agents these days are steering off course.
They create a division in the company and start to tell you how strong their branding are.


What i want to say is, if you are an agent who join under that company branding, its because that branding is strong and make use of it. Creating sub brands and sub divisions is like telling people your main brand is not as strong and thus need to create a secondary brand.
If you are propnex, you are propnex, if you are era, just era. Why sub division here sub division there?

As an agent, joining the industry is to make money. If need to join sub division or brand, it means you are not leveraging on the branding of the main brand.

Thus when u talk to agency leaders these are some clues on how u assess them.

 

[jweak13]

I suggest joining someone that is doing sales at the same time training. Because he or she will know the market best. If the leader is well trained to be a trainer. He or she will not need a lot of time to guide you because they are arm with the right skillset and mindset.

 

[nauhchop]

Most likely you are not someone senior in the industry. There is a lot of differences in the structure in real estate industry. However things are improving due to CEA initiatives.

Why not u tell me which part of what i said is wrong and you do not agree with?
Cannot just sweep statement one side without saying why you are right.

 

[Realgrow]

Hi guys,

I have passed both my papers for RES exam

Wondering which agency to join.

I have heard from my trainer that whether you do well in this line, really depend who is your team leader. No point going for those that are too successful as he or she will not have time for you.

Can anybody here verify?

Thanks.

Do you prefer to learn from a average guy or a TOP producer that give excellent result?

Less successful guy may have more time for you, but if you copy his way of work, you end up just like him.

Just another way of looking at thing...............

 

[V_for_Vanilla]

Do you prefer to learn from a average guy or a TOP producer that give excellent result?

Less successful guy may have more time for you, but if you copy his way of work, you end up just like him.

Just another way of looking at thing...............

TOP producer will usually be too busy to properly train or guide rookies. This is from someone I know who joined a top producer.

 

[Realgrow]

TOP producer will usually be too busy to properly train or guide rookies. This is from someone I know who joined a top producer.

I dont think all TOP producer are the same

I come across TOP producer who only recruit few rookies at a time so that he can provide good guidance and at the same time maintain TOP producer position.

Take your time, you will find responsible manager.

 

[iori_del]

Keep ur full time job. 2014 will be a hell ride. I jus joined the industry and how I wish the market is better!

 

[Antz621]

Keep ur full time job. 2014 will be a hell ride. I jus joined the industry and how I wish the market is better!

The slide down has only just began. It's going to be a long drought!

 

[trueblu]

Base on my group analysis we all come up with this ranking as reference best to our knowledge

Most Projects / New Launches Agencies
1) Huttons
2) ERA
3) CBRE
4) Knight Frank
5) SLP
6) DTZ
7) Savills
8) ECG
9) Propnex
10) Remax

 

[noel13]

Where is my agency??