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Is Saphir Renovateur a all-in-one cream? Does it clean, shine and waterproof at the same time, or do you need to use other products with it?

It is more for nourishing and cleaning the leather. Not much of shine and certainly no waterproofing.
 

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Is Saphir Renovateur a all-in-one cream? Does it clean, shine and waterproof at the same time, or do you need to use other products with it?

I highly doubt there is any product that does all three. A bit lazy of u to want that as well, if u were to ask me. Each function kinda interferes with the other. So i would think if the product does one thing well, it sucks at something else.
 

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I highly doubt there is any product that does all three. A bit lazy of u to want that as well, if u were to ask me. Each function kinda interferes with the other. So i would think if the product does one thing well, it sucks at something else.

I think you misunderstand. I asked because I really haven't a clue what it does. The descriptions on the website aren't very helpful either.

Seeing as it is a product that is highly touted here I thought to clarify what it specifically does.
 

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I think you misunderstand. I asked because I really haven't a clue what it does. The descriptions on the website aren't very helpful either.

Seeing as it is a product that is highly touted here I thought to clarify what it specifically does.

Dont really blame u as online literature is generally singing praises of the renovateur though my earlier comments are grounded on personal experience.
 

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Renovateur is used to remove excess wax and creams plus it contains conditioning ingredients. It will have a matte effect on leather. If you wish to imbue more colors, use cream. If you wish to shine it, use wax. Use it in that order.

There is nothing magical about the Renovateur that you can't do with lexol. As it name suggests, it is used to "renovate" your shoes so you can start over with cream and wax.
 

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Renovateur is used to remove excess wax and creams plus it contains conditioning ingredients. It will have a matte effect on leather. If you wish to imbue more colors, use cream. If you wish to shine it, use wax. Use it in that order.

There is nothing magical about the Renovateur that you can't do with lexol. As it name suggests, it is used to "renovate" your shoes so you can start over with cream and wax.

Thanks for the detailed description!

So Renovatuer shouldn't be used on a weekly basis? My current weekly regime consists of foaming shoe cleanser, pigmented cream, and waterproofing spray.
Is this correct, or should I be doing something differently/better?

I'm not too hardcore on shoe care, and would simply like to ensure my shoes are receiving decent treatment. I don't mind sending my shoes to a vendor for TLC if needed, any suggestions on who to approach and how often I should do so?
 

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It would all depend on how dirty the shoes are. There is no need to use renovateur more than a few times a year.

Also, most of the time, you do not need foam cleansers or waterproofing spray. Just get one or two good brushes and give it a good brushing.

I only use waterproof sprays for suede, nubuck and textiles, not smooth leather.
 

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It would all depend on how dirty the shoes are. There is no need to use renovateur more than a few times a year.

Also, most of the time, you do not need foam cleansers or waterproofing spray. Just get one or two good brushes and give it a good brushing.

I only use waterproof sprays for suede, nubuck and textiles, not smooth leather.

Foam cleansers, because I'm lazy and they're easy to use! Same with waterproofing sprays. Good to hear that what I'm doing is not too far off what's right.
 

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Shoe Shine Regime

Hi, need help on getting a mirror shine. I've been trying to follow the shoe snob's video on youtube but can't seem to get the effect to appear on my new brown Meermin captoe oxford from the classic line. Tried twice over 2 weeks already. It's lustrous yes, but definitely not mirror!

Using all saphir products with a no-name horseshoe brush, kiwi polishing brush and a cut-up old t-shirt. I'm following Justin's steps religiously but I don't have time to sit down for a few straight hours just polishing shoes so I usually break the routine down. Do 1 step finish, put the shoes down for a few hours to tend to chores before I come back, quick brush to remove dust and proceed on next step.

I don't know if I'm using the right amount of polish though. Each time I only merely dab at the polish (cloth only gets a light dusting of brown) which seems to me sufficient for an area equivalent to the toe cap only. Too little or too much??

If anyone can share a more sure regime to get the mirror shine or spot what I've been doing wrong above, TIA!
 

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Thanks for the detailed description!

So Renovatuer shouldn't be used on a weekly basis? My current weekly regime consists of foaming shoe cleanser, pigmented cream, and waterproofing spray.
Is this correct, or should I be doing something differently/better?

I'm not too hardcore on shoe care, and would simply like to ensure my shoes are receiving decent treatment. I don't mind sending my shoes to a vendor for TLC if needed, any suggestions on who to approach and how often I should do so?

I am not sure what your foaming shoe cleanser does. It might not be good for leather on a weekly basis.

You don't need waterproofing spray on leather, might actually be bad for leather since I think the nano waterproof particles might seal up the leather pores and make the leather no so breathable.

You can look for PetiaC, he does an amazing job to clean and shine my cordovan shell.
 

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Hi, need help on getting a mirror shine. I've been trying to follow the shoe snob's video on youtube but can't seem to get the effect to appear on my new brown Meermin captoe oxford from the classic line. Tried twice over 2 weeks already. It's lustrous yes, but definitely not mirror!

Using all saphir products with a no-name horseshoe brush, kiwi polishing brush and a cut-up old t-shirt. I'm following Justin's steps religiously but I don't have time to sit down for a few straight hours just polishing shoes so I usually break the routine down. Do 1 step finish, put the shoes down for a few hours to tend to chores before I come back, quick brush to remove dust and proceed on next step.

I don't know if I'm using the right amount of polish though. Each time I only merely dab at the polish (cloth only gets a light dusting of brown) which seems to me sufficient for an area equivalent to the toe cap only. Too little or too much??

If anyone can share a more sure regime to get the mirror shine or spot what I've been doing wrong above, TIA!

Polish the whole shoe with wax first, then work on the toe cap.
Lightly dab a bit of polish and a teeny bit of water, polish in small circular movements. Keep repeating for many times. Time and patience is required to achieve a mirror shine.
 

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I am not sure what your foaming shoe cleanser does. It might not be good for leather on a weekly basis.

You don't need waterproofing spray on leather, might actually be bad for leather since I think the nano waterproof particles might seal up the leather pores and make the leather no so breathable.

You can look for PetiaC, he does an amazing job to clean and shine my cordovan shell.

I'm actually using these products,
Cleanser: http://trg-theone.com/en/product/cleaner-shampoo-150ml/
Waterproofing: http://trg-theone.com/en/product/protector-250ml/

The waterproofing apparently doesn't affect breathability. Not sure if the cleanser is too harsh though?

Should I alter my weekly regime to just brush and pigmented shoecream instead? Cleabser and waterproofing on a monthly frequency?
 

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Polish the whole shoe with wax first, then work on the toe cap.
Lightly dab a bit of polish and a teeny bit of water, polish in small circular movements. Keep repeating for many times. Time and patience is required to achieve a mirror shine.

So I'm basically doing ok, just don't kan cheong and it will come lah? Good to know! Thanks! :D
 

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Any one seen meltonian Polish cream in Singapore ?

Kindly advice as I want to match colour.
 

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Bump this thread. Other than Mason & Smith is there a place where I can drop my shoes off for mirror shine?
 

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Bump this thread. Other than Mason & Smith is there a place where I can drop my shoes off for mirror shine?

I have seen free lancer on carousell posting such a service and shoeshine uncle u can ask him though seems like he's been rather busy
 
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