The Spectacles Thread.

[2pm2am]

I forgotten my degree. Ps didn't pay attention to what the person say. however i increase my power by 0.25.

My degree should be L 50 R 100.

I will get a detailed one when i collectmy specs.

damage 600+

will there be a issue if nylon dont sink in completely? Is this due to the machine cant cut the groove deep enuf?

By viewing it with my eyes i actually cant really tell whether it sits completely in or not. However if i run my fingers over i can feel the protrusion of nylon.

if your finger can feel the nylon means it's not completely in the groove. it looks ugly and not suppose to be like that. get them to deepen the groove so that the nylon sits completely inside.

as for how tight it should be, when you twist the lens, it shouldn't move. if it's too tight, sooner or later the nylon will snap.

 

[2pm2am]

Recently checking out the price for Tag automatic 0843 rimless specs. Went to the neighborhood shop at Sunplaza Visual Arts. The girl quoted me the frame and lens crizal at 800sgd at even bargained for a better price she said it won't be far off from 800sgd and saying that the frame itself is already $750. Went off and found out that the frame price is $600 and AMK Eyechamp (?) is quoting me about $680 for the frame n lens. Man, can't believed neighborhood shop can chopped till this high. No way am i going there again. Lucky did not get from the shop.

did you go to another shop? maybe can get even cheaper than eyechamp ???

 

[2pm2am]

ic-berlin frames do not meet your budget of $350.

Anyway my advice to you is that if you are particular abt the design & worksmanship aspect of a frame, ic-berlin has a design flaw. The hinges are not strong enough & can move abt & get loose. The arms also cant be folded in properly. You can go to the shop & try folding down the arms, they will rub against each other. Go try & you may understand wat im trying to say. Just hope you will not regret if you choose it.

Furthermore, over time there will also be frictional corrosion occuring on its steel metal sheets. Definitely not worth the price if you are someone looking at value & quality.

i believe it's a case of either you like it or you don't. I have worn my ic berlin for more than a year and i don't have any of the problems you mentioned !

 

[2pm2am]

received authenticity card printed with SFT coating and transition card. definitely a good deal from the shop

can share where you get such a good deal ?

 

[Singaporean80]

When i was a student, one of the topics I read abt human psychology in marketing is a phenomenon called post-purchase evaluation.

In a nutshell, you can shop & shop & shop and when you finally decided to part yr money, then suddenly you find another shop selling cheaper/better etc. You will never be satisfied. This is common human behaviour. That is why this is a common question that is often posted here.

The lesson I got from this is never to compare after I made my final purchase, esp if it is an extraordinary (once off) purchase. Of course if it is a recurrent expense, then one must continue to shop for the best price, eg some pple change laptop/spectacles every few years but some pple change theirs every 6-12 mths!!!

Sharing yr experience is good for noobs who are finding what is expensive & what is value. Sometimes its a misperception that can be clarified here.

agree?

Fully agreed

 

[Seannie]

i believe it's a case of either you like it or you don't. I have worn my ic berlin for more than a year and i don't have any of the problems you mentioned !

Nope, its more a case of whether YOU look for the best out of your spectacles or not. For me, i am more particular on the functionality. I do not want to spend on something that does not carry the value of its price tag. IC-berlin being sold at that kind of price is mainly due to marketing & not so much on quality & functionality.

For you, maybe as long as it looks nice & u like it its alright & nothing else matters.

 

[Seannie]

if your finger can feel the nylon means it's not completely in the groove. it looks ugly and not suppose to be like that. get them to deepen the groove so that the nylon sits completely inside.

as for how tight it should be, when you twist the lens, it shouldn't move. if it's too tight, sooner or later the nylon will snap.

so do you mean that they did not set the machine to cut the groove deep enough? But its done by HOYA lab & they are supposed to be professional not those budget lab. I can feel the nylon but by looking at it its not ugly becos i cant really see the nylon sticking out. So what does tat mean? Is it ok?

So nylon sitting out doesnt necessarily mean that it is loose? I have the perception that if it sinks in the groove completely it means that it is tight. And vice versa if sits out of the groove, it is loose. No?

Im really confused by the mechanism of the nylon.

 

[2pm2am]

Nope, its more a case of whether YOU look for the best out of your spectacles or not. For me, i am more particular on the functionality. I do not want to spend on something that does not carry the value of its price tag. IC-berlin being sold at that kind of price is mainly due to marketing & not so much on quality & functionality.

For you, maybe as long as it looks nice & u like it its alright & nothing else matters.

ic berlin frames may not be functional to you but functional to others.

ic berlin sold at this kind of price i don't think it's due to marketing. do you see any advertisements ? do you see magazines advertising ic berlin ? hardly. unlike brands like oakley, gucci, tag hauer, ray ban etc....

the high cost i believed it's because it's made in germany. the cost may be halfed if they shift their production to china. but then quality might be compromised.

 

[2pm2am]

so do you mean that they did not set the machine to cut the groove deep enough? But its done by HOYA lab & they are supposed to be professional not those budget lab. I can feel the nylon but by looking at it its not ugly becos i cant really see the nylon sticking out. So what does tat mean? Is it ok?

So nylon sitting out doesnt necessarily mean that it is loose? I have the perception that if it sinks in the groove completely it means that it is tight. And vice versa if sits out of the groove, it is loose. No?

Im really confused by the mechanism of the nylon.

yes. they can set the depth of the groove in the machine. if you can feel the nylon but cosmetically it's not ugly , then just leave it lor.

the mechanism of the nylon is just to hold the lens in it's place and make sure it doesn't fall off. tightness can be adjusted. ideally, the nylon should be flushed with the edge of the lens when in the groove.

 

[Seannie]

yes. they can set the depth of the groove in the machine. if you can feel the nylon but cosmetically it's not ugly , then just leave it lor.

the mechanism of the nylon is just to hold the lens in it's place and make sure it doesn't fall off. tightness can be adjusted. ideally, the nylon should be flushed with the edge of the lens when in the groove.

oh... isnt the groove to be cut supposed to be standard depth? do you mean that different nylon threads are being used, thus the there are different thickness of the nylon, that is why the depth of grooves varies? Otherwise, if the same kind of nylon being used for all the frames, aren't the depth in the groove the same? Y shd machine set some to be deeper & some to be shallow?

Ofcos cosmetically it isnt really that much of a concern. im just afraid the nylon will shift out.

Most of the frames i saw the nylon usually do not flush with the edge, but always a little protruding out. I suppose it's not that easy for the lens to fall off from the nylon? i tried pulling the nylon out from the lens but it didnt budge. But if i pull the frame part, it moved a little.

 

[Seannie]

ic berlin frames may not be functional to you but functional to others.

ic berlin sold at this kind of price i don't think it's due to marketing. do you see any advertisements ? do you see magazines advertising ic berlin ? hardly. unlike brands like oakley, gucci, tag hauer, ray ban etc....

the high cost i believed it's because it's made in germany. the cost may be halfed if they shift their production to china. but then quality might be compromised.

i didnt say icberlin is not functional. Im only saying it is not the best in functionality. And thus does not worth the premium in price. You can get equal or better brands at lesser price.

Yes, i have seen advertisement being shown outside an optical shop. They actually mount a screen on the wall & advertise with a video. So im pretty sure advertisements are done maybe not so much in sg but in europe or other parts of the world.

If you say they are made in germany maybe i agree. But if you mean that the quality is good becos its made in germany i do not agree. The workmanship is only so-so, standard quite similar to tagheuer which also claimed to be handmade in france. But the "hand" that make it really seems to be not so skilled. Thats all i have to say. Consumers have to buy & see with their own eyes & judge for themselves.

 

[xiaokaka]

anyone knoows how tight the nylon string shd be tied to the lens? Should the nylon sit completely into the lens groove or just half-sunk??

around 60%-80% of the nylon string should be sunken in. There will be variance cuz it's done by all different brands of machines..

 

[xiaokaka]

Where got sell anti mist glasses?

Essilor planning to launch soon. they claim the technology is patented from US/Europe.

Not really sure when it will arrive and launch in SG.

 

[xiaokaka]

Hi all

Just got my specs done.Lens is carl zeiss 1.5(Photo fusion.New type of transition lens) and frame is no brand one.Lens is $270 Frame is $90 .

Due to my degree not so high(150 for both side) so opt for 1.5.if go for 1.6 difference of $170..

Total damage = $360. Got kana chopped ?? need some advice.Thank you

Somewhere there. I believe RRP for 1.5 Photofusion @ $280.
Duno ur frame but ur lens didn't kana chopped.

 

[xiaokaka]

Just to cfm, so yr 1.5 lens cost $270 & if you get a 1.6 lens you'll have to pay $430 (270+160)

From the tables I provided below, I can see there are 3 Zeiss lens for single vision; there are 3 types of Zeiss AR coatings.

Zeiss Single Vision Lenses :

1. Standard Clarity series

2. Custom Asiana / 3D series

3. Individual Fit series

Coating for plastic are all Lotutec. Except for single vision 1.74 (forgot the name).

Glass lenses uses different coating Latinal (or something like that)

 

[xiaokaka]

did you go to another shop? maybe can get even cheaper than eyechamp ???

Tag Automatic frames RRP cost about high $500-$600..

Heard that from Ben Optiks that 2 sales women..

 

[xiaokaka]

so do you mean that they did not set the machine to cut the groove deep enough? But its done by HOYA lab & they are supposed to be professional not those budget lab. I can feel the nylon but by looking at it its not ugly becos i cant really see the nylon sticking out. So what does tat mean? Is it ok?

So nylon sitting out doesnt necessarily mean that it is loose? I have the perception that if it sinks in the groove completely it means that it is tight. And vice versa if sits out of the groove, it is loose. No?

Im really confused by the mechanism of the nylon.

It should be tight but not too tight.

As in if u full ur lens abit, doenst move much.

u pull abit harder, the lens and nylon string at the corner will open a small gap just enough u can put a small ribbon or 1 more nylon string inside.

Dont recommend u to pull urself cuz u might not know where is the breaking point for ur lens. (play safe)

 

[xiaokaka]

Imho, anywhere u get ur glasses, most important is the feeling the people in the shop gives u.

Yea, prices are abit different from shops to shops. But my point is, if ur gonna spend like ~$500 on a pair of new glasses.. Shop A sells same thing at $480. Shop B sells at $520.

$40 not alot, but not small either. IF shop B gives u services which u never felt before in any other shops. Very professional services and cosy feeling. whereas Shop A does everything Minimum..

If it was me, i will go for service. Cuz i know, if i were to have any problems with my glasses, i know theres people i can rely on to solve my issues. If u calculate ur glasses has cost difference of $40 and ur very well taken care of, it's not that expensive anymore is it?

 

[jonleelk]

Imho, anywhere u get ur glasses, most important is the feeling the people in the shop gives u.

Yea, prices are abit different from shops to shops. But my point is, if ur gonna spend like ~$500 on a pair of new glasses.. Shop A sells same thing at $480. Shop B sells at $520.

$40 not alot, but not small either. IF shop B gives u services which u never felt before in any other shops. Very professional services and cosy feeling. whereas Shop A does everything Minimum..

If it was me, i will go for service. Cuz i know, if i were to have any problems with my glasses, i know theres people i can rely on to solve my issues. If u calculate ur glasses has cost difference of $40 and ur very well taken care of, it's not that expensive anymore is it?

+1.

I have been wearing specs for about 17 years. Haven been buying from the same shop for the past 15 years. My last purchase, had to go back to the shop 5 times to make minor adjustment. Not a single black face was shown. In fact, the optician felt very apologetic that I had to return so many times (not his fault...as it takes a full day of wearing to really feel where needs minor adjustment).

 

[RazerDA]

Are ic! berlin frames price controlled?

saw the ic! berlin uncertainity...damm nice and tempted to buy...but just got my oakley.

anyone can advise on whether is there any price control?